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Post by renden on Dec 6, 2018 16:25:16 GMT
Pete the disk came back today do I send it off to you or Rene ? If you are talking about the Steiner pages, I would not mind looking at it but might do my own Custom pages with my software/inventory and eliminate a lot of holes  Thanks firstfrog2013René |
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Post by beaverstamps on Dec 6, 2018 17:14:58 GMT
I feel your pain. Just put several $1.00 Hungary lots on eBay and loaded up two 16 page APS circuit books. My eyes are shot from watermarking and perfing. I'm now heading to Menards to find some 100 watt or brighter bulbs. RB aka beaverstamps  |
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Post by renden on Dec 6, 2018 17:30:40 GMT
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Post by brightonpete on Dec 6, 2018 23:46:24 GMT
Pete the disk came back today do I send it off to you or Rene ? Send it off to renden. He’s in desperate need of it! I can wait |
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Post by blaamand on Mar 14, 2020 15:30:22 GMT
Please allow me to revive up an old thread. Hungary is a lot of work indeed - thousands and thousands of large stamps - hope you managed to complete it brightonpete ! I've recently completed redoing my own Hungary collection as well. After having done all the 'regular stuff' I also find joy in additional stuff, like postmarks and curiosities. Some of the curiosities of Hungarian philately have been mentioned in this thread already - like the 3-hole punch - or more precisely the "Hármas Lyukkal". This is how I arranged them, on custom pages made by barbu . (As often before, I apologies for not having a scanner available, so forgive the poor images by my phone  ) Like tomiseksj, I like collecting odd stuff like this, outwith "mainstream"    |
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Post by philatelia on Mar 14, 2020 15:48:09 GMT
Hungary: The "Three Pin Punctures" Anyone considering collecting this discipline will be endeavouring to collect 79 stamps in all.  Aptly described by Mr. Jay Carrigan. US  Huh! Just read this. I’m wondering if these three hole punches are considered perfins? |
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Post by renden on Mar 14, 2020 15:52:41 GMT
Please allow me to revive up an old thread. Hungary is a lot of work indeed - thousands and thousands of large stamps - hope you managed to complete it brightonpete ! I've recently completed redoing my own Hungary collection as well. After having done all the 'regular stuff' I also find joy in additional stuff, like postmarks and curiosities. Some of the curiosities of Hungarian philately have been mentioned in this thread already - like the 3-hole punch - or more precisely the "Hármas Lyukkal". This is how I arranged them, on custom pages made by barbu . (As often before, I apologies for not having a scanner available, so forgive the poor images by my phone ) Like tomiseksj , I like collecting odd stuff like this, outwith "mainstream" Jon, interesting - opening my Hungary album, discovered I did have a few here and there.....now I have to look at my "dups" René |
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Post by blaamand on Mar 14, 2020 16:13:01 GMT
Huh! Just read this. I’m wondering if these three hole punches are considered perfins? No, these are not perfins. Perfins are made by private companies to protect from misuse by employees. These 3-hole punches had another purpose |
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Post by blaamand on Mar 14, 2020 16:17:12 GMT
renden - Nice, I'm glad to have inspired you to look for something new Hope you find a few nice examples!
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Post by renden on Mar 14, 2020 17:23:02 GMT
renden - Nice, I'm glad to have inspired you to look for something new Hope you find a few nice examples! I have in Album but not in my dups since they are more recent and do not have the 3 holes - thanks !! René |
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Post by blaamand on Mar 15, 2020 21:02:29 GMT
Hi philatelia - funny you mentioned that! Today I found a stamp with both a 3-hole punch and a perfin. Quite a funny combination. Anyway, it demonstrates how companies applied perfins on regular stamps, seemingly regardless whether they had 3-hole punch or not.  As nerdy as I am, I collect perfins as well. However I do not bother the task of identyfing the name of the company etc, I just try to make up the initials and stick them on a Vario sheet. Didn't find many for Hungary though!  (The perfins noted but seemingly missing are in my regular Hungary collection, didn't have dups of the stamp the perfin is on) |
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 16, 2020 0:34:10 GMT
Hungary 1868 Sc # PR1 Newspaper tax stamp they did so well on the 3 of 4 sides, then meat cleaver the top...... <sigh>  |
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 27, 2020 22:01:44 GMT
!914-22 Double cross watermark Sc# P8, P9 (pair) & P10... no idea what the signifigance of 10F written on the single P9 (another cataloguing system no doubt)  |
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Post by renden on Apr 27, 2020 22:08:26 GMT
Thanks for the scans, Stan stainlessb !! I have 1,400 Hungary stamps......but not those ones and I have not done research (too late here) René |
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 27, 2020 22:18:55 GMT
Several of the stamps - the orange (which looks more bistre to me) and the blue had earlier issues with different watermarks (beginning in 1900) These are the only examples I have (so far that I have found.... the early orange (1900) is described by Scott as red-orange). The lilac is only in the last series. I likely will need to see if I have any digital info on Hungary and/or hunt out a better reference than Scott. But that is somewhere down the road. Ia m almost done putting All Germany that I have in Varios , and then France is literally a mountain of stamps, though nothing earth shattering, but it will definitely add to my study lots for shades and variants!
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Post by renden on Apr 27, 2020 22:29:21 GMT
Stan - I have time also so I might be able to help with some of those with different Catalogs.....let me know by e-mail
René
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 31, 2022 0:40:34 GMT
another desk clean-up fing Hungary, not sure if this is Sc# 3 Rose or 3a Brick Red, or #9/9a. Perforation is not quite 9.5, there is no watermark, and on the back, someone has written in pencil 71 (so they thought this to be#3) anyone care to wager an opinion? looks more 'brick red to my eye"  |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 31, 2022 21:49:13 GMT
Hi, Stan ( stainlessb): Nice classic stamp and thanks for the post! I would agree that it looks much more like brick red than rose to me, so assuming that I am picking up the right color from your scan, I think you are on the right track there. Are you able to tell if it is an engraved or lithographed example? I notice that it makes a big difference in the CV, as the engraved one (assuming brick red is correct) would be at $8.00 versus the litho at $75.00. It's a nice stamp in any case! |
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 31, 2022 22:24:19 GMT
Chris
I can't tell for certain- I am guessing someone thought it litho by the 71 written on back the engraved were 71-72
It is the oldest Hungary stamp I have!
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Post by gstamps on Jun 20, 2022 11:44:01 GMT
IMO is engraved, stainlessb The lines are fine, uninterrupted and when you feel your finger on the surface you should feel the ink embossed (harder on used stamps) My stamps are still engraved and I kept them because they are part of the collection inherited from my mother. It seems that at that time the postal staff preferred to cut the stamps. Too bad.  |
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Post by gstamps on Aug 13, 2022 10:22:03 GMT
When I don't have German stamps to study, I look in the box with inherited stamps. The stamps are sorted by country and kept in envelopes. When I find several copies of the same type, I think of variations in color, perforation, paper. reprints, fakes or plate flaws. The Scott 417, Hungary 1927 stamp did not mention anything about these variations in the classic catalog.  If you have a specialized catalog with additional information, I am very grateful for indications of what to look for. A stamp caught my attention that I think is not engraved but rather lithographed (or more ink on a more porous paper) What do you think?  |
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Post by paul1 on Aug 13, 2022 12:43:07 GMT
your comment gstamps about Scott not mentioning image variations affecting No. 417 on Hungary 1927 issue, is a problem that is likely more widespread than just Hungary. I've always thought it unreliable that colour variation on used stamps should be classified as a rigid system, although I would accept that for unused stamps there is an argument for listing certain noticeable variation from the norm. But for used stamps, which may have experienced changes due to exposure to daylight - washing - steaming - dirt - etc., all of which are capable of affecting colour - then trying to list variations is most likely unreliable.
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Post by gstamps on Aug 13, 2022 16:21:47 GMT
paul1, thanks for the opinion. I can't handle the colors of the mint German stamps and the Michel Color Guide bought specifically for color identification. I don't have a painter's eye. The 2 stamps presented have the same perforation 14 and watermarked paper (so I exclude the fake) My interest is in the bottom stamp which does not look engraved as it is mentioned in the catalog. Were there multiple issues with different printing methods? I'm also interested if plate flaws are also mentioned? I hope that someone has a specialized catalog (not even in the Michel catalog is there anything more than Scott mentioned) George
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