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Post by rod222 on Jan 3, 2014 21:10:00 GMT
Can someone assist me with identification of this little thing please? Is there a collecting discipline for these things? www.ebay.de/itm/Muenchen-Reklamemarke-Bayerische-Vereinsbank-/231122635362Google translate Important: Most brands we have only one available! Most military official seals were used from about 1850-1918 to seal the letters. A few specimens from the III. Reich us are also known. Many of these brands are very rare and come from small units, bases and ships with little crew. The rarest brands will probably be the Zeppelin airships. We would be pleased if the collector help us in the first catalog creation. For this we have made all previously traded military brands in our archive. In addition to the sights of Munich and the Munich Kindl, including heads like the Prince Regent Luitpold were used for advertising on billboards marks 100 years ago. Today advertising would certainly not be the best seller with Chancellor & Co.. About 3000 Munich Advertising stamps can be found in our archive. |
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Post by Ryan on Jan 3, 2014 23:36:31 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Jan 4, 2014 1:15:25 GMT
"They have an archive of sales catalogues available in PDF format, you can go dizzy looking at all the items here." Snap! Bingo! Bravo Ryan, What I find dizzying, is that I have not encountered them in my collecting career. What else is out there?  I'll assemble mine, and broadcast them under "Ephemera : Letter Seals" |
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Post by PostmasterGS on Jan 4, 2014 2:22:13 GMT
I see these at German auctions all the time. The sheer variety is enough to convince me I never want to start collecting them, since I'd of course want one of each!
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Post by rod222 on Jan 4, 2014 5:52:15 GMT
" The sheer variety is enough to convince me I never want to start collecting them, since I'd of course want one of each!"  That made me laugh. |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 28, 2014 14:16:50 GMT
Germany. Registration Labels. Would any members be able to suggest why, I have a Registration Label, with the Lozenge Livery of Germany, but printed "Beyrouth" ?  |
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Post by ncbucki on Jan 28, 2014 19:32:35 GMT
Rod,
I'm not home, so can't do any research on this right now, but here are some thoughts.
Would "Beyrouth" really be Bayreuth area of Germany? Would there be a Lozenge aircraft livery facility somewhere in Bayreuth at that time?
Clarification - aircraft livery is the paint scheme or design. Lozenge is a specific type of camaflague pattern originally for aircraft camo but later used for tanks, etc.
When I get home maybe I can get more info.
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Post by rod222 on Jan 28, 2014 23:05:57 GMT
Rod, I'm not home, so can't do any research on this right now, but here are some thoughts. Would "Beyrouth" really be Bayreuth area of Germany? Would there be a Lozenge aircraft livery facility somewhere in Bayreuth at that time? Clarification - aircraft livery is the paint scheme or design. Lozenge is a specific type of camaflague pattern originally for aircraft camo but later used for tanks, etc. When I get home maybe I can get more info. Don, I am utterly ignorant of the local geography / modern history of Germany.
I was thinking perhaps Beyreuth = Beirut, and perhaps Germany had a peacekeeping force there at one time?
Ooops, golly, you were smack on Don ! BIG Red faced dept for Rod There is a Beyrouth in Germany The "Lozenge" livery I was referring to was the design of the red skewed oblongs on the label, the shape of a Rhombus. these are often found on Airmail designs on covers, around the border. That's the best I can do at the moment, I hope I am not broadcasting my ignorance Thanks for offering input. |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 29, 2014 0:08:21 GMT
Germany East Germany Bavaria Is anyone able to offer any information on these sundry labels, for an album page please?  |
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Post by Ryan on Jan 30, 2014 6:27:40 GMT
BIG Red faced dept for Rod There is a Beyrouth in Germany Bayreuth is famous for being the home of an annual festival which produces Richard Wagner operas (the ones with the huge blond-haired women with the metal breastplates bellowing away). It's quite the remarkable city, when you look at some of the extravagant buildings you think it must have a big population but in reality there are only about 75,000 people living there. Here are a couple of tourism videos produced by the city. Ryan |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 30, 2014 7:14:26 GMT
Very nice Ryan,
strange how a little Registration label weighing part of a gramme, could be an ambassador.
I recognised Ms. Merkel, and the bubble massage looked inviting.
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Post by Ryan on Jan 30, 2014 7:22:33 GMT
Is anyone able to offer any information on these sundry labels, for an album page please? The white strips with the town names on them come from parcel cards (in German, "Paketkarten"). Here's an image nabbed from a Delcampe seller, showing a parcel card for a package that went from Königsberg (now Kaliningrad in Russia) to Memel (now Klaipeda in Lithuania).  Ryan |
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Post by Ryan on Jan 30, 2014 7:39:30 GMT
Is anyone able to offer any information on these sundry labels, for an album page please? I wasn't familiar with the Tauschkontrollmarken (green printing) but fortunately there's a Wikipedia page (in German) for them. They were used by stamp collectors to facilitate stamp exchanges - they were issued in pairs with the same serial number on each label. The DDR resident would send his stamps out of the country for trading, including a form specifying the number of stamps and their Lipsia catalogue value, and one of the labels would be affixed after the letter had been inspected to make sure that the accounting of stamps and their values were correct. The other label was sent inside the envelope and the trading partner would return stamps and would affix the second label on the back of his envelope. The accounting was supervised by a DDR philately association of some sort, not by the post office. You had to be a member of a DDR stamp club to be allowed to take part in this mail trading, and only mint DDR stamps could be exchanged. Ryan |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 30, 2014 7:44:23 GMT
Wow! Bravo Ryan,
this will make an exciting page, never came across this before.
Super work.
You get 10 brownie points, and I'll allow you to go in the draw for Romania.
(BTW they were in a gift lot from your good self, sent a few years ago, so again, Thank You)
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Post by I.L.S. on Jan 30, 2014 10:46:30 GMT
Wow! Very interesting! I love the German classic period right up to the early 50's! Great looking stuff!
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Post by rod222 on Feb 1, 2014 1:06:04 GMT
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Post by Ryan on Feb 1, 2014 4:06:40 GMT
Rodney, the registration labels you show that have a different colour of print (the ones on the almost transparent paper) will be DDR-era labels. You might want to separate those out from the others?
Ryan
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Post by rod222 on Feb 1, 2014 7:06:01 GMT
Rodney, the registration labels you show that have a different colour of print (the ones on the almost transparent paper) will be DDR-era labels. You might want to separate those out from the others? Ryan Thanks very much Ryan, that's good news, I had been wondering about those weirdly thin ones. I did some research but the discipline is thin across the ground, I found some fab stuff on the Sudentenland etc, but the off paper stuff, not much info. As an aside, when I was researching the Dresden label, I found Dresden to be a "Conurbation" I'll have to get a postmark to join my other conurbation of Camborne Redruth in Cornwall England. I'll leave the DDR labels on the sheet for the near future, currently working of making a German Reg Label PDF. |
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Post by rod222 on Feb 10, 2014 6:07:44 GMT
Germany Russian Occupation of Thuringia (Steiner and Scott see Germany DDR) The semi postals (I think) are a fabulous examples of German "Spargummi" CV : $3 for the 2 pages.   |
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Post by rod222 on May 30, 2014 1:54:45 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Jun 1, 2014 23:07:01 GMT
Would any German collectors be able to translate the Commemorative Pmk please? (Thanks in advance) One day hence, Rail thematic afficianados, may possibly drool over this one, shows the care some vendors go to, when trading / selling stamps, being of German origin it comes as no real surprise they do things so well in that country, a nice 2014 commemorative Pmk , Bravo Germany! This piece has it all, the receival (dot matrix) receival ugly from Western Australia (dot matrix gets distorted by contents) but reads... PMC WA = Perth Mail Centre Western Australia FMOCR 701 = "Optical Character Reader" #701 22 APR 14 = 22nd April 2014 15:00 = 1500 Hrs = 3pm  |
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Post by Ryan on Jun 2, 2014 0:16:02 GMT
Would any German collectors be able to translate the Commemorative Pmk please? That's a first day cancel ("Erstausgabetag", first day of issuance). "175 Jahre Ferneisenbahn" celebrates the 175th anniversary of the first long-distance railway in Germany. According to Wikipedia, that was a line between Leipzig & Dresden built in 1839. The first steam-powered railway in Germany was built in 1835, a local line running between the neighbour cities of Nuremberg and Fürth. Ryan |
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Post by rod222 on Jun 2, 2014 1:00:41 GMT
Thanks Ryan. Nice work.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 7, 2014 4:13:52 GMT
Are any of our German specialists, able to offer any information on these seals, please?  |
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Post by PostmasterGS on Jun 7, 2014 8:28:26 GMT
Rod,
At that time, lower-ranking enlisted members of the armed forces were allowed to send letters free of postage, up to 60g weight, if the envelope was marked "Soldatenbrief - Eigene Angelegenheit des Empfängers" (soldier letter - personal for recipient). The text was normally written on the bottom left of the envelope.
At some point, unknown private parties decided to make labels which said the same for sale to the troops. The men could use them in lieu of the handwritten notation, presumably to save the effort or to distinguish their mail. They were commonly sold in mess halls and stationery stores.
There's a brief note on these in Michel's Specialized Band 1 -- page 568 in the 2013 catalog, and page 211 in the 2007 English-language version.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 7, 2014 9:00:36 GMT
Thankyou Postmaster, very elan.
I'll pass this on to the secretary of our Cinderella Club, with accreditation, whom was looking for the information.
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Post by Ryan on Jun 22, 2014 13:52:25 GMT
Another German registration label - in this case, another one of the transparent East German labels. This one is different from any I have seen before, however - it includes a notification of 50 Pf payment for the registration services. I don't know how these were used - could it be used as a stamp? For example, if it cost 30 Pf for regular post and 80 Pf for registered post, could you add this label to a 30 Pf stamp to show full payment? Or were you still required to use an 80 Pf stamp? I'd be surprised if this R-Zettel could serve as a stamp, but I've never seen such a value printed on a registration label before.  Ryan |
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Post by rod222 on Jun 22, 2014 22:19:17 GMT
Another German registration label - in this case, another one of the transparent East German labels. This one is different from any I have seen before, however - it includes a notification of 50 Pf payment for the registration services. I don't know how these were used - could it be used as a stamp? For example, if it cost 30 Pf for regular post and 80 Pf for registered post, could you add this label to a 30 Pf stamp to show full payment? Or were you still required to use an 80 Pf stamp? I'd be surprised if this R-Zettel could serve as a stamp, but I've never seen such a value printed on a registration label before. Ryan Not seen before. Sandafayre have one for auction GBP 50 pounds Looks like catalogued under Michel.  |
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Post by Ryan on Jun 22, 2014 23:04:43 GMT
Not seen before. Sandafayre have one for auction GBP 50 pounds Looks like catalogued under Michel. Well, remarkable. I guess I need to pull it out of the "miscellaneous ephemera" envelope and put it in the GDR bucket. It turns out that it was used as a stamp - here's an example nabbed from eBay showing proper usage, in this case a 70 Pf registered letter paid with a 20 Pf stamp and a 50 Pf registration label.  The "SbPA" text on the label is important. It stands for "self-service post office", a fancy name for vending machine! The customer could use the machine to buy a label pair, using one half on the envelope and keeping the other half as a receipt. The high catalogue value shown in your example is specific to the post office from which it came. My East Berlin example would only be worth €3 as a MNH pair, and it isn't even priced as a detached soaked single (only covers are priced). 61 Meiningen 5 shows a catalogue value of €150 for the MNH pair. Ryan |
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Post by rod222 on Nov 19, 2014 7:00:39 GMT
Germany Sundry Revenues and Ephemera Unidentified. Statistische Gebuhr Zollstuck Hauptzollamt Sassnitz  |
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