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Post by BC on Jan 14, 2014 5:34:00 GMT
Hawaii was an independent republic from 1893 to 1898. Only one stamp though was ever inscribed "Republic of Hawaii". Scott No. 78, the S.S. Arawa.
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Post by huckles888 on Jan 14, 2014 13:21:33 GMT
That is quite a nice looking stamp BC - So could it be argued that is possibly qualies a "one stamp" country/state collection because of its "Republic of Hawaii" title? - What sort of value does this stamp attract BC?
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Post by BC on Jan 14, 2014 14:00:50 GMT
Huckles, the Republic of Hawaii issued several postage and official stamps in that era, but oddly the one shown was the only one inscribed "Republic of Hawaii". The others were inscribed just "Hawaii" or "Hawaian Ilsands Postage".
My stamp is $17.50 used in the 2010 Scott Catalogue, though it has some short perfs.
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Post by huckles888 on Jan 14, 2014 14:15:53 GMT
Thats some interesting information BC
* So over what time period were the "Hawaii" stamps issued? (1893 to 1898?)
* What was the chronological order of the "Republic of Hawaii", "Hawaii" and "Hawaian Islands Postage" inscriptons used or where they mixed up?
Sorry about the 1001 questions but the stamp you have showed BC has peaked my interest and I freely admit I have limited knowledge of and information resources for US stamps
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Post by ChickasawStampMan on Jan 15, 2014 4:33:34 GMT
I really enjoy the US "possessions", including hawaii and confederate stamps.
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Post by BC on Jan 15, 2014 6:02:39 GMT
Here is the deal on Hawaii.
Up to 1893: Independent Kingdom. 1st stamps issued in 1851, the famous "missionary stamps"
1893-1898: Independent republic. Continued to issue stamps.
1898: Annexed by the United States. Hawaiian stamps still used.
1900: Became a U.S. Territory. U.S. stamps put into use.
1959: Hawaii became the 50th state.
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Post by huckles888 on Jan 15, 2014 8:32:53 GMT
Thats great information BC - thanks heaps for it - looks like Hawaii could form a very interesting collecting area
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Post by ncbucki on Jan 15, 2014 16:04:25 GMT
I certainly agree. I keep all of my Hawaii related material in its own binder.
When I was in Junior High School, I wrote a paper on Hawaii, and I have been enamored with Hawaii (and Pacific Islands) ever since.
Some interesting facts concerning Hawaii –
The Hawaiian archipelago was created by the ocean crust moving across a volcanic hot spot and extends for approx. 1500 miles towards Japan
There is a volcanic sea mount (Lo’ihi) growing twenty five ,miles south of the Big Island which is expected to become the next island in the chain
From base (ocean floor) to top, the Big Island of Hawaii is 33,100 ft, twice that of Mount Everest
The Big Island is so heavy, it has sunk 1,000 feet into the Pacific Ocean floor
The Big Island is the second largest single mass mountain in the known Solar System (do you know what the largest is?)
I could go on and on ....
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Post by BC on Jan 15, 2014 17:29:39 GMT
The mayor of Toronto?
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jan 15, 2014 19:07:59 GMT
My first guess would have been Japan which by the way is wrong(what a surprise)I googled it and was actually surprised.Wasn't there a skit on SNL something like " Moses how long can you tread water"
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Post by ncbucki on Jan 15, 2014 20:35:58 GMT
The largest single mass mountain in the known Solar System is Mount Olympus on the planet Mars
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Post by jamesw on Jan 19, 2014 2:58:56 GMT
That was actually a Bill Cosby routine about Noah and the ark. I too love the Hawaiian stamps, with a little collection I keep going back to. The early royals are beautifully engraved. And an interesting history. Don't have that one yet. Another pictures President S. B. Dole, of, yes, the pineapple family. Big business is never far away. One of my faves, Princess Kamamalu.
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Post by jamesw on Jan 19, 2014 3:06:10 GMT
It should also be pointed out that in 1893 when the independent republic was established, stamps of the monarchy were used but they were overprinted to reflect the change in government.
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Post by BC on Jan 21, 2014 2:58:14 GMT
Nice stamps James. I still need to get some Provisional Government issues (used). This stamps is a reprint in red of the 1894 2c brown (the brown was issued under the Republic government). However, the red reprint is one of only three stamps issued after U.S. annexation. They were issued in early 1899. Blue Kahului Apr 15, 1899 cancel, Maui. Honolulu Harbor
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Post by jamesw on Feb 6, 2014 3:59:09 GMT
Let's revisit this one. Here's 1896 Official stamp picturing Lorrin Andrews Thurston. Notice at the very top in the circle is RH. Guess that's as close as any other Hawaiian stamps got to mentioning the Republic. This stamp is postally used with a squared circle cancel. Unfortunately the location is barely discernible, but I think I can make out Honolulu with my loupe. Values used in the Scotts Specialized are for CTO stamps (says a note at the bottom of the listing). This one with a CTO cat's at $19. But a postally used O2 (this guy) has a sticker price of $35.
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Post by jamesw on Feb 6, 2014 4:02:48 GMT
If we're wondering who this guy with the beard is, here is Mr. Thurston's writeup in 'findagrave.com' www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=51780409The son of early missionaries, he was instrumental in the overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy and establishment of the Republic. So much for saving those poor savages from themselves...
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Post by BC on Feb 6, 2014 4:10:31 GMT
James, that squared circle was made in Canada, the same company that made the Canadian ones. It is even listed in Unitrade on page 579 of the 2013 catalogue. Rarity factor of 2. Not sure if it was used for CTO's.
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Post by BC on Feb 6, 2014 17:38:01 GMT
Further checking indicates that the Honolulu squared circle is rather scarce on a first class cover. It was first put into use under the republic government. This information comes from www.hawaiianstamps.com/upuhono.htmlSECOND CLASS MAIL POSTMARKS (Honolulu) Starting about January, 1897, postmarks used for second class mail were different from those used on first class mail. However, the second class mail postmarks are also seen on some domestic first class mail, but the incidence is scarce. So far as the foreign mail is concerned, I have noted these marks only on second class mail. All of the second class postmarks are undated. The first is the squared circle postmark produced in Canada and sent to Honolulu as a sample or gift. The proof for the Honolulu device shown in the Canadian set of squared circle postmarks has a date of February 9, 1894, but the use of this device as a postmark started in January, 1897, based on the dates figured for nearly unworn strikes. The other two second class mail devices produced single lined circle marks. 25mm x 26mm; squared circle; black, purple Usage: January, 1897 to April 19, 1900 Estimated: 10
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Post by jamesw on Feb 7, 2014 4:33:08 GMT
Ryan, that's pretty cool that the Honolulu cancel originated in Canada. Too bad mine isn't on a cover. But does that increase mines value? (not that that's really important now).
FYI the CTOs that appeared on the officials read FOREIGN OFFICE / HONOLULU H.I. in a double circle with no date.
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Post by rod222 on Oct 27, 2014 23:58:10 GMT
Hawaii Local Post : Pineapple Post (Closed 1987) Do you wish to see the hoomoohoomoonookoonookooahpooahah go swimming by ? Warning: This may encourage you to book a passage.....
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Post by jamesw on Oct 28, 2014 3:14:48 GMT
Ah, once again you remind me of something I purchased a while back and recently rediscovered. Hawaii #79 issued 1894 picturing President Sanford Ballard Dole (yes, of the pineapple Doles).
Dole was born in Hawaii of Protestant Christian missionaries. He was named President of the Provisional Government after the overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy in 1893. After the Republic was established in 1894, Dole was selected (he was second choice) as President, and would serve as the only one, from 1894 to 1898. (thanks wikipedia!)
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Post by alanl on Oct 28, 2014 5:04:43 GMT
A couple of items from the Pineapple Post.
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Post by rod222 on Oct 28, 2014 5:08:22 GMT
A couple of items from the Pineapple Post. Wow! Alan, you're the man. Not seen those before. Note the bottom RHS Tete-Beche. Addenda to the first Pineapple Post. Prince Kuhio Day is an official holiday in the state of Hawaii in the United States. It is celebrated annually on March 26, to mark the birth of Prince Jonah Kuhio Kalanianaole — heir to the throne of the Kingdom of Hawaii, prince of the House of Kalakaua, and later territorial delegate to the United States Congress. It is one of only two holidays in the United States dedicated to royalty, the other being Hawaii's King Kamehameha Day June 11
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Post by rod222 on Oct 28, 2014 5:26:21 GMT
Hawaii Post Private Courier Post Items from a discussion in 2003, from our own "The Stamp Forum" member Blair (Canada) and a response from Hawaii Post themselves...................
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Post by rod222 on May 15, 2015 5:08:06 GMT
Hawaii's First Post Office, goes up in Flames.
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Kahului Railroad Co. StampsIn 1876, a treaty with the United States opened up Hawaii's sugar industry. Getting from the large plantations to the port at Kahului was difficult, so a narrow gauge railroad was constructed with the first train running on 17 July 1879. In 1881, the railroad was named the Kahului Railroad Company, and it operated until 1966. The postmaster of Kahului allowed mail to be sent for free over the railroad. In 1884, a subsidy of $25 per month was paid for hauling mail. In 1894, the Kahului Railroad decided to print stamps to cover the postage of parcels, letters, and freight, which its trains picked up on its routes outside the postal system's mail. The American Bank Note Company printed a set of lithographed stamps for the railroad. None of the Kahului Railroad stamps are listed in the Scott Catalogue, even though they were approved by the legitimate post office at that time. There were 2 issues printed. According to American Bank Note records, the order was received on 3 August 1894 and fulfilled on 17 December, with a likely arrival in Hawaii during January 1895. Stamps of six values were produced in the following quantities: 5c Blue: 100,000 6c Red: 100,000 15c Green: 75,000 18c Black: 100,000 50c Purple: 50,000 $1 Gray Brown: 50,000 (Only the 6c & 18c were mine; the other images are from auction sites.)
Unused stamps of the 5c, 15c, 50c and $1 values are rare. Genuinely used examples of the 6c and 18c values are rare and may never have placed in use. Large quantities of the 6c and 18c values were found in a safe in the 1930s and are common today. In 1898 The Kahului Railroad placed an order with the Schmidt Label and Lithographic Company in San Francisco for more 5c stamps and for two new stamps, with values of 10c and 25c. The printing quantities are unknown as their records were lost in the 1908 earthquake. Little is known about the Kahului Railroad Company as the records were mainly destroyed in the Hawaiian tidal wave of 1946. A set of brass tokens issued in 1891 by the railroad - value $5,000
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Post by rod222 on Nov 26, 2015 0:10:40 GMT
Fabulous post! Thank you very much.
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Post by BC on Nov 26, 2015 3:48:13 GMT
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 16, 2016 3:02:42 GMT
As an 1840-1930 WW classics collector, in addition to early Canada, I also have a special fondness for old Hawaii issues. I lived there for 2 years while I was in the service, and I have had that special attraction to the islands ever since. Here is a sampling from my collection:
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 16, 2016 3:04:20 GMT
And here is a sampling of my Provisional Government overprints:
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