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Post by jamesw on Jun 8, 2014 21:05:45 GMT
A Canada MR1 with lathe work purchased yesterday at the North Toronto Stamp Club bourse (and my first posting using Photobucket. Yes I've come over to the PB side!). Also just noticed the selvage has an arrow guide on the lower left corner. The gentleman who sold it to me explained the lathe work this way, when I mentioned that I'd never heard a decent explanation for it. He said it was used to detect wear on the plate. The plates wear from the outer edge, so the intricate pattern would show when the plates were starting to wear down, after many uses. So when stamporator described his examples as 100%, 80% or 40%, that indicated how much of the lathe work was left, or conversely how much wear there had been. Made sense to me.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 9, 2014 0:51:29 GMT
James, always be wary of Photobucket, once an image is used, it needs to remain exactly where it is in the file structure. If one does any housekeeping and you move files, or rename etc, we all lose your images. The Lathework, I cannot see any "arrow guide" ? Can you explain that for me please? I think the selvedge remains, in a large part, due to the "blind perfs" the pins must have been really shot.
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Post by jamesw on Jun 9, 2014 1:22:44 GMT
thanks for the advice Rod. So the images must remain in Photobucket, or they will disappear from this site. Understood.
The arrow, as I understand it, is, in this case, half an arrow really. In the lower left corner you'll see a curved line. Now envision a mirror image of that line to the left. Together you have your arrow, indicating where the sheet should be cut.
I will allow experts with bigger brains to correct or confirm.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 9, 2014 2:02:39 GMT
thanks for the advice Rod. So the images must remain in Photobucket, or they will disappear from this site. Understood. Yes, just to expand, if I have a stamp "Fox" in photobucket under file "Thematic", and I move it to Germany DDR then that action will leave a blank hole on TSF forum. One has to leave the images when linked, wherever they are, for EVER One of the disappointing problems with stamp forums, are threads with missing images.
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Post by jamesw on Jun 9, 2014 2:50:47 GMT
Rod, a good reason to organize first. I've gone back to the cinderellas I've already uploaded and put them into an 'album' on Photobucket. So far I see they haven't vacated the forum. I'll keep an eye on them, before I organize anything else, just to make sure they stay put. Better to do that now than when I have a kergillion images (as I seem to have on my hard drive) and end up having to relink them all.
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Post by rod222 on Jun 9, 2014 3:12:51 GMT
Rod, a good reason to organize first. I've gone back to the cinderellas I've already uploaded and put them into an 'album' on Photobucket. So far I see they haven't vacated the forum. I'll keep an eye on them, before I organize anything else, just to make sure they stay put. Better to do that now than when I have a kergillion images (as I seem to have on my hard drive) and end up having to relink them all. That's interesting James. Perhaps I am wrong, please keep an eye on that, and I may do a test run. Perhaps the link adjusts when moved in Photobucket.
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Post by therealwesty on Jun 9, 2014 12:29:35 GMT
Great stamp James! The arrow fragment is on the left side ofthe slevedge in the lathework. It extends from just above the upper left of the lathework pattern down to the right. An excellent specimin to have showing two of the admiral era slevedge markings in one. I have yet to get an example of the lathework, but it is something on my wish list for sure.
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Post by tomiseksj on Jun 9, 2014 15:48:27 GMT
Rod, a good reason to organize first. I've gone back to the cinderellas I've already uploaded and put them into an 'album' on Photobucket. So far I see they haven't vacated the forum. I'll keep an eye on them, before I organize anything else, just to make sure they stay put. Better to do that now than when I have a kergillion images (as I seem to have on my hard drive) and end up having to relink them all. James, as of this morning your cinderella images in three different threads "have left the building." The problem likely occurred after you moved them into the photobucket album. I sent you links to the threads via forum message.
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Post by Zuzu on Jun 9, 2014 17:50:47 GMT
I would guess that the images were still showing up for a little while due to browser cache uh, stuff. (I don't have the right words today.) LOL
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Post by jamesw on Jun 9, 2014 23:54:02 GMT
Thanks Thomas and Zuzu. I did notice that this morning when I peeked at the forum when I got to work. Wasn't able to change them then (that sort of frivolity is frowned upon) so will do so now. Thanks again for the heads up.
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Post by rod222 on Sept 15, 2014 1:36:40 GMT
Canada
Lathework : Marginal Inscriptions.
Acknowledgement : Bnaps 2008
Until 1916, plates had an imprint in the top margin of each upper pane and in the bottom margin of each lower pane. In late 1916, ABN began putting a band of lathework or engine turning at the bottom of the sheet and the plate imprint below the lathework. When the sheet was guillotined, the bottom of the lathework and the bottom plate imprints were cut off. The lathework was probably added as hold-down strips, holding the sheet onto the plate during printing.
Six different lathework patterns were used, ten if inverted designs are also counted.
In 1922, ABN began adding pyramid lines (a long horizontal line with six vertical lines of decreasing length) in the middle of the left or right margin of the pane as a perforation guide. Towards the end of 1922, ABN also added an inscription that read R-GAUGE in the top right margin of the lower right pane. The lathework, pyramid lines, R-GAUGE inscription, and imprints in the bottom margin of the lower panes were all done away with when ABN switched from the wet to the dry printing method beginning in 1923. Many of the marginal markings are quite scarce and highly sought.
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