rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 4, 2014 6:37:12 GMT
Scott : SOUTH KASAI This part of a Congo province declared itself an autonomous state and in 1961 issued several series of stamps, some of which were overprints on Congo (ex-Belgian) stamps. Established nations did not recognize South Kasai as an independent state. Postally Used Covers are extremely rare. Flag  Map, Southern Zaire (Bottom LH Corner)  Leopard and "V" A. D. Kolonji  Cover (Not of my collection)  |
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Mick
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Post by Mick on Oct 4, 2014 20:15:23 GMT
Since South Kasai was never a member of the UPU (at least, I am assuming that they were not), would that have complicated the way that letter was routed to Belgium? What generally happens with international mail delivery of places that are not members of the UPU? In the case of the letter above, the "Per Vliegtuig" etiquette is from South Africa, so I am assuming it was routed through there.
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Post by BC on Oct 4, 2014 20:40:17 GMT
There were several rebellious states in the 60's that produced very collectible and interesting stamps and postal history. In addition to South Kasai, there was Katanga (also Congo), Biafra (Nigeria), and Anguilla (West Indies). I may be missing one or two others. The 90's brought a lot more.
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Post by Jerry B on Oct 4, 2014 22:19:37 GMT
Hi Rodney I worked in the store (world wide stamps) for almost 2 years and I never heard of some of the stamp issuers that you have shown. I have to make a trip to Oz just to see what you have  Jerry B |
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Post by BC on Oct 4, 2014 23:19:24 GMT
Here is another Wikipedia map that shows the actual area (Yellow) occupied by the South Kasai rebels in 1961. The capital was at Bakwanga.  |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 5, 2014 0:28:22 GMT
Here is another Wikipedia map that shows the actual area (Yellow) occupied by the South Kasai rebels in 1961. The capital was at Bakwanga. Wow! a splendid map Brian, many thanks, you are the "go to" man for maps and regions. One big query, on the (dodgy?) Circular Date stamp postmarks (Katanga), they have "Elisabethville", AND "Elisabeth Stadt" Why the German influence? |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 5, 2014 0:36:04 GMT
Hi Rodney I worked in the store (world wide stamps) for almost 2 years and I never heard of some of the stamp issuers that you have shown. I have to make a trip to Oz just to see what you have Jerry B Thank you Jerry, I bear the physical scars of dumpster diving, and the psychological damage from bidding on suspect junk at auctions. |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 5, 2014 0:44:13 GMT
Since South Kasai was never a member of the UPU (at least, I am assuming that they were not), would that have complicated the way that letter was routed to Belgium? What generally happens with international mail delivery of places that are not members of the UPU? In the case of the letter above, the "Per Vliegtuig" etiquette is from South Africa, so I am assuming it was routed through there. A very insightful query Mick, beyond my understanding of this sphere, I am a stamp collector, we need a Philatelist of South African study, to address this query. I must confess, with the cover I felt negative, I was assuming a philatelic inspired cover that doubtfully found its destination, there are no backstamps offered to prove arrival. The Registration Label surprised me. |
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Post by Ryan on Oct 9, 2014 8:43:07 GMT
One big query, on the (dodgy?) Circular Date stamp postmarks (Katanga), they have "Elisabethville", AND "Elisabeth Stadt" Why the German influence? Not German, but rather Belgian. So, those are French and Dutch (-stad, no final T in the Dutch word for city) names. Elisabethstad is now known as Lubumbashi and is DRC's second-largest city. Ryan |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 9, 2014 11:41:24 GMT
Right. Thanks Ryan (You are most adroit)
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Post by BC on Oct 9, 2014 14:50:59 GMT
Rod, your cover is genuine. From Wikipedia, this explains why covers went through the mail system: The state [South Kasai], supported by foreign powers, particularly Belgium, and funded by diamond exports succeeded in dealing with numerous crises, including those caused by the large emigration of Luba refugees, but became increasingly militarist and repressive. Although the South Kasai government claimed to form an autonomous part of a federal Congo-wide state, it exercised a degree of regional independence and autonomy and even produced its own constitution and postage stamps.In full: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Kasai |
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Post by stoltzpup on Oct 9, 2014 15:56:41 GMT
Kasai is one of the locals being ravaged by ebola.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 9, 2014 23:44:20 GMT
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