rod222
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Post by rod222 on Jan 29, 2015 6:47:15 GMT
Botswana Formerly The British Protectorate of Bechuanaland. 1972 Mail Runner Route : Mafeking to Gubulawayo.  |
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 14, 2015 23:05:55 GMT
Botswana: Christmas 1969 Souvenir sheet, perf. 14.5, issued November 6, 1969, Scott 57a (Scott 54-57) Design: Mother, Child and Star of Bethlehem Values: 1c, 2c, 4c and 35c  |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 15, 2015 1:57:02 GMT
Overprints "British Bechuanaland" became part of the Cape Colony 1885 - 1895 became South Africa.  "Bechuanaland Protectorate" 1888 - 1966 became Botswana  |
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David M Frye
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Post by David M Frye on Jun 5, 2018 19:42:21 GMT
I found this postcard in a dollar box and was intrigued by the combination of the message that highlighted the imperforate stamp, that stamp, and the two postage-due stamps. The cancellation ties all three to the postcard at the same time. I have tried to find any mention online of this 1987 definitive series having any imperforate varieties. My suspicion, given the anecdote in the message, is that the sender was persuaded to buy a "stamp" that was not an official issue. Then, when the sender took the postcard to the post office, a clerk noticed the "stamp" and collected the postage due, which was documented with the two postage-due stamps. Another option is that printer's waste was not kept secure, and a mid-production sheet escaped. If you could confirm or refine my reading of this cover, I'd be grateful. Botswana is not one of my usual areas for collecting postal history.  |
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Jun 6, 2018 10:03:31 GMT
I did a quick search and similarly could find nothing regarding imperforate varieties for this issue.
Given the "I bought it from a guy" assertion in the text of the card, I wonder if the 5t was a counterfeit.
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angore
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Post by angore on Jun 6, 2018 12:21:58 GMT
I have been sorting through a lot of British Empire in Africa and learning a lot about the countries (old names, new names).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 12:53:55 GMT
Another option is that printer's waste was not kept secure, and a mid-production sheet escaped. If you could confirm or refine my reading of this cover, I'd be grateful. Botswana is not one of my usual areas for collecting postal history. As Steve noted, specialized catalogs make no mention of this imperforate issue and fortunately your scan is very good so...
The header of the postcard stamp when compared to others on auctions (12+) shows a thicker less distinct type. This is fairly typical of lithographed copies. There are several other issues also.
African stamps even very low value ones are copied in large quantities, most modern ones for postal fraud.
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Post by doug630 on Jun 6, 2018 13:34:00 GMT
I am copying this out of a 2019 Scott; there IS a specific Bechuanaland & Botswana Society in the U.K. Neville Midwood 69 Porlock Lane Furzton, Milton Keynes, MK4 1JY, United Kingdom www.nevsoft.com [not working] bbsoc@nevsoft.com |
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Post by bluehens on Jun 6, 2018 13:37:44 GMT
The stamps of the Southern Africa British colonial era are wonderful and as usual with any stamps from that period beautiful. The 1932 King George issue features an attractive view of Bechuanaland, now known as Botswana.  |
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Post by tomiseksj on Jun 6, 2018 15:57:39 GMT
... there IS a specific Bechuanaland & Botswana Society in the U.K... I believe this is the Society's website. |
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David M Frye
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Post by David M Frye on Jun 6, 2018 19:37:10 GMT
Thanks for the tip for comparing scans of legitimate and potentially counterfeit versions. I bought the postcard for $0.50 US, so I think the money was well spent to get an item with an interesting story. Another option is that printer's waste was not kept secure, and a mid-production sheet escaped. If you could confirm or refine my reading of this cover, I'd be grateful. Botswana is not one of my usual areas for collecting postal history. As Steve noted, specialized catalogs make no mention of this imperforate issue and fortunately your scan is very good so...
The header of the postcard stamp when compared to others on auctions (12+) shows a thicker less distinct type. This is fairly typical of lithographed copies. There are several other issues also.
African stamps even very low value ones are copied in large quantities, most modern ones for postal fraud.
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Post by David M Frye on Jun 6, 2018 19:39:55 GMT
I think I'll keep looking for a contemporaneous postcard from Botswana to the U.S. If I can find one and determine the airmail postcard rate, I should be able to determine whether the postal service in Botswana used postage due stamps for the full amount or a portion of the prevailing rate. I did a quick search and similarly could find nothing regarding imperforate varieties for this issue. Given the "I bought it from a guy" assertion in the text of the card, I wonder if the 5t was a counterfeit. |
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Sept 6, 2020 20:50:12 GMT
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Post by cjoprey on Sept 7, 2020 11:45:00 GMT
I haven't got many stamps of this area, but thought this one would be nice to share as it's essentially a fore-runner: Scott #6, Botswana overprint on Bechuanaland Protectorate stamp, 2c, 1966:  |
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Post by katie333 on Sept 8, 2020 0:22:54 GMT
darkormex I've just recently begun a collection of Botswana, good to know you had some luck with kiloware. I've got a sorry amount of on-paper stamps that I need to work on, but I don't think there is any Botswana in there.  Thanks for posting!
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darkormex
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Post by darkormex on Sept 8, 2020 0:50:54 GMT
katie333, I have a fairly good accumulation of Botswana both mounted on album pages and on stock pages. The range is from the 60s to the 00s. Let me seek out your trade thread and post more there.
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angore
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Post by angore on Sept 8, 2020 10:23:00 GMT
I collect Bechuanaland Protectorate but never picked up in any lots I purchased.
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Post by zipper on Jun 23, 2022 9:11:06 GMT
Charles Dickens Centenary 1970  |
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Thanks for posting!
