firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 29, 2015 20:49:00 GMT
There were three issues released.The first is relatively easy to distinguish the bottom line reads Bon De Poste. The second and third are really giving me trouble. The information I'm going by is design measures 20 1/2 by 17 OR 20 by 16 . My eyes are not as good as they were fifty years ago.Is there another way to tell them apart ?? Is there an easier way to measure them other than setting them atop one another?
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 30, 2015 17:38:06 GMT
Does anyone have information what year the third issue was released ? Every thing I find mentions 1967 which is same year as second issue. Doesn't seem quite right. Just trying to file them in the right year as per my new format of incorporating back of the book into regular issues.
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 30, 2015 18:54:12 GMT
Someone with the ESJ Van Dam Canadian Revenue Stamp Catalog can confirm this but my suspicion is that the change in dimensions constituted the "third issue" and that both the second and third issues were introduced in 1967. The listings at Arpin Philately show both as 1967 (that site is also selling the 2009 edition of Van Dam for $21.95). |
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 30, 2015 20:00:11 GMT
I have Van Dam but no mention of release date given there. Can't get my head around both issues would have been same year, but then I think in common sense and this is a government operation.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Dec 30, 2015 23:21:09 GMT
If I had a 600dpi scan of the same value, both sizes,
I could organise you a *.gif toggle, that would identify any differences.
One solution:
You cannot do this here due to the stamps high values, but I have come across other stamps that differ by ½ mm.
One just cuts the corners off one end (of a low value perhaps damaged stamp) , so that the diagonal cut just misses the corner of the design.
I keep this on the album page, and use it for a template, when sorting.
second solution: I have EZPerf, which, when scanned at 300dpi, one can measure using the cursor.
Guess:
They were both printed 1967, usually when stamps differ by ½mm or 1mm, it indicates a difference in flat plate printing and rotary. (usually the larger)
I am a novice in Canadian stamps, so that's just a guess.
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 30, 2015 23:38:24 GMT
Rod my solution while caveman was to put a pen mark on the ruler at 17mm any larger which is by far, stick out,while any smaller are also quite noticeable. Not too technical but sometimes simple works eh? The pain was using my loupe to scan those marks on the rule. It is just one big pain to get old and wear out the body parts one at a time.
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Post by rod222 on Dec 31, 2015 0:24:03 GMT
Rod my solution while caveman was to put a pen mark on the ruler at 17mm any larger which is by far, stick out,while any smaller are also quite noticeable. Not too technical but sometimes simple works eh? The pain was using my loupe to scan those marks on the rule. It is just one big pain to get old and wear out the body parts one at a time. I am an old fossil Engineer, Froggy, so I have umpteen steel rules, these have fine engravings, and, as you, I often measure the stamp with the steel rule (6 inch) and the loupe. |
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Post by khj on Jan 24, 2016 4:12:10 GMT
Frog, I don't have the Van Dam catalog. But I took a look at the set of 8 "BON D'APPOINT" stamps that you sent me.
All of them measure 20½x17mm (none are 20x16mm).
However, the 7¢ and 20¢ have noticeably different gum and paper. For the rest of the stamps the gum is yellowish, and the paper fluoresces slightly under both filtered long wavelength and short wavelength UV light. But the 7¢ and 20¢ have paper that is dull under UV light, and gum that is basically colorless.
I don't know if the differences are characteristics of the 2nd and 3rd issues, or just varieties within one of the issues. Hopefully somebody can chime in with an answer.
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jan 24, 2016 13:00:00 GMT
Van Damn offers not much info.I have been disappointed by lack of information within both Van Dam and Unitrade on numerous occasions.U.S. collectors seem to have better catalogs and info. Old story with me,I use what's available. If I was a younger man I would set off to manufacture a better catalog.
When you ask anyone what catalog to use they will say Unitrade or Van Dam for revenues now you too see how lacking they can be.
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Post by jimjung on Jan 24, 2016 14:14:04 GMT
This website gives details on the Postal Note and Script Issues. It lists a 1932-48 1st Issue, a 1967 2nd Issue and seems to be a 3rd Issue not yet listed. Here are a few from the early issue.  |
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