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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 8, 2024 1:38:53 GMT
Continuing with PA5, the first image is a coin date (1-4-1930) with the Expo cancellation in the selvage from the Exposition Internationale de la Poste Aerienne in Paris, 1930. The second image is another coin date, but note the date, 12-26-1939. This is almost certainly an error, which most likely should have been 1929. Both Y&T and Spink/Maury list coin dates of 1928 and 1931 as "errors", with the only two years of actual coin dates being 1929 and 1930.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 8, 2024 1:53:09 GMT
Finally there is the PA5A (Spink/Maury) or PA6d (Y&T) version of the 1f50 carmin, a small number of which were perforated with EIPA30 at the International Expo. The EIPA30 perforation can be right side up, upside down, backwards, or even a mixture.
First image is a single with the EIPA30 perforation upside down and backwards. Second image is a single with the perforation upside down and with the Expo cancellation in the selvage. Third image is a coin date (12-3-1929) perforated with EIPA30, with backwards versions in the selvage and upside down/backwards versions on the stamps. Very rare.
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 8, 2024 14:51:24 GMT
impressive wvgm3 - I have only personally seen one perforated stamp and it was deemed a fake as the spacing wasn't quite right. High CV and perhaps some of the ones I may never possess myself.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 9, 2024 16:44:17 GMT
Thanks, stainlessb. I have been very fortunate to be able to compile my collection of French stamps. I have been in an accumulation phase for a long time, but have been recently thinking about how to organize and present various parts of the collection. Selecting and scanning the stamps is a good first step, and I will probably use the scans to prepare a digital layout before actually mounting anything. I joined TSF for several reasons, seeking a small group of those, like yourself, who are interested in the details of types and varieties of French stamps, and secondly looking for inspiration on presenting my collection.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 9, 2024 16:49:43 GMT
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 9, 2024 16:51:36 GMT
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 9, 2024 17:17:49 GMT
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 9, 2024 17:38:09 GMT
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 9, 2024 18:40:53 GMT
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 9, 2024 19:17:22 GMT
PA9, 1f50, bleu. No shades listed in either catalog, but I beg to differ (image 1). Second image is a coin date (12-16-1935). I have not yet found a coin date of any of the other shades.
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 9, 2024 19:30:22 GMT
A;though there isn't much information on the Poste Aerienne issues (that I have been able to find) outside of the major catalogues which largely treat these as BoB (that seems to hold true for most countries), I have reagularly seen what appears to be shades, when none are noted, as well as different papers.
With many of the line engraved stamps it is hard to grap a color sample that is solid and homogenous), but this issue has the underside of the wing, as well as between the lettering (especially the E in POSTE and the A in AERIENE)
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 10, 2024 16:31:23 GMT
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 11, 2024 18:19:21 GMT
PA11, 2f50, rose carmine. Only 2 shades this time!
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 11, 2024 19:03:30 GMT
PA12, 3f, outremer. Lots of shades for this value.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 11, 2024 20:13:31 GMT
PA13, 3f50, brun-jaune. A few shades. The lower two looked different in person, not so much after scanning.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 11, 2024 20:56:19 GMT
PA14, 50f, vert, the high value of the Plane over Paris set. This is one of the few times that Y&T has more shades than Spink/Maury. Y&T has PA14 vert-jaune,PA14a vert, and PA14b vert fonce, while Spink/Maury only has PA14 vert clair and PA14a vert fonce. There might be a few more that that, based on the first image. Second image is a cancelled block of 4. I wish it only had a single cancellation centered on the 4 stamps, but this was difficult to find as is. Cancelled blocks are generally much harder to find than mint ones.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 11, 2024 20:57:54 GMT
PA14 coin dates, for the vert and vert fonce shades.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 11, 2024 21:32:34 GMT
PA14 in gold leaf. Does anyone have information on these? I have not found virtually anything.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 11, 2024 21:39:35 GMT
PA15, 50f burele. There are two varieties listed, PA15 (burelage) and PA15a (burelage renverse). Y&T has images of the difference between the two (page 934 in 2021 catalog), but the pattern is basically flipped.
First image shows mint and used of each type, PA15 on left, with PA15a on right. Second image is a used block of 4.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 11, 2024 21:43:04 GMT
PA15 coin dates, with both types. As far as I know and have seen, all PA15 sheets were dated 15 Juin 1936 (first image), while all PA15a (burelage renverse) were dated 16 Juin 1936 (second image).
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 11, 2024 22:13:04 GMT
Interesting, the reversed burelage gives the stamps a much more 'pinkish' cast.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 11, 2024 23:25:24 GMT
PA16-19, serie mythologique. First image, shades of PA16, 40f Centaure. Neither Y&T or Spink/Maury list any shades. Second image, shades of PA17,50f Iris. Y&T lists a PA17a, rose. Third image contains both PA18 and PA19. PA18, 100f Egine has a bleu-noir shade listed in both Y&T (PA18a) and Spink/Maury (PA18b). PA19, 200f Char de Soleil, has two shades: in Y&T PA19a is rouge-sang and PA19b is rouge fonce, while in Spink/Maury PA19b is rouge-brun papier mince and PA19c rouge-sang papier carton. Guess I will stop posting coin dates from here on, unless someone wants to see them.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 13, 2024 22:43:49 GMT
PA20, 500f, Bridges of Paris, celebrating the 12th congress of the UPU in Paris, 1947. First image, two fairly close shades. Second image a block of 4. The sheets for this issue have ten stamps, separated by a gutter. With the sheet number in the lower left selvage and the press number in the gutter selvage, this would be the bottom of the sheet.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 15, 2024 1:28:31 GMT
PA21, 50f+30f, de Saint-Exupery and PA22, 100f+70f, Dagnaux with several close shades of each. These are called Air Post Semi-Postals by Scott (CB1 and 2) but are considered part of the Poste Aerienne in French catalogs.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 15, 2024 16:58:47 GMT
PA23, 40f+10f, 50th anniversary of Ader's plane L'Eole, in several shades. Second image is a Y&T23b or Spink/Maury PA23a, hachures sur "FRANCE", holding to a regular version. If you look close, there is hatching on the letters of FRANCE in the upper left of the top stamp.
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Post by wvgm3 on Apr 16, 2024 19:38:05 GMT
On to a new series, 1949, PA24-27, stylized views of French cities. Here is PA24, 100f, view of Lille. First image, plenty of shades. Y&T does not list any, while Spink/Maury has a PA24a noir, which is, I believe, position 3. Other images are coin dates for 1949, 1951, and 1953.
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