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Post by jl on Dec 12, 2016 20:39:53 GMT
Near complete set only missing the blue 25c.This forger not only made low value forgeries but also are cancelled.I don't think these are Fournier.John  |
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Post by jkjblue on Dec 13, 2016 16:51:00 GMT
You couldn't scan a couple of them and post them for a closer look?  |
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Post by classicalstamps on Dec 13, 2016 19:36:52 GMT
Nice selection :-)
According to Gratton/AIEP, these were made by Hirschburger. Many wrongly accredit them to Fournier.
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Post by jkjblue on Dec 14, 2016 0:04:49 GMT
Probably so.  |
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Post by adamgarfinkle on Jun 25, 2021 12:54:07 GMT
In my limited experience, and looking at Scott mainly, forgeries of these types are easy to recognize because the perfs are wrong and the lines in the faces of the figures, especially the female figure to the right, look clearly different. So here is my question for those who know more than I do: Are there forgeries that don't have the wrong perfs? That would be a bummer, since I'd have to have some new way of distinguishing and go back to check hundreds of examples in my albums.
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racatrien
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Post by racatrien on Aug 31, 2021 20:30:30 GMT
Hello,
sorry but i think at least your 40c is wrong. A larger picture of each would allow me to educate you.
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 31, 2021 20:49:27 GMT
racatrien a discussion would be most interesting, but I think you may have to post your own images as jl is no longer active on the forum.
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renden
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Post by renden on Aug 31, 2021 21:24:46 GMT
agree with Stan stainlessb - we need comparative scans to understand the forgery of 40c - Merci/Thanks René |
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Post by chrischross on Aug 31, 2021 23:12:10 GMT
Here's a Group Type / Navigation & Commerce 40c for Gabon for reference:  If I remember correctly -- one of the differences is the fine dots in the background that the forgery can't reproduce? |
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racatrien
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Post by racatrien on Sept 3, 2021 20:03:58 GMT
Here are some pictures of a page I made regarding this topic  |
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Post by racatrien on Sept 3, 2021 20:07:00 GMT
On the left the authentic and on the right the false. On the left the authentic and on the right the false. Look how the hand isLook how well the hand isimitated on the left.
On the right the fingers are coarse.
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racatrien
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Post by racatrien on Sept 3, 2021 20:13:26 GMT
 You can also see the obliteration made by the forger for Madagascar dating from 0You can also see the obliteration made by the forger for Madagascar dating from 09/07/96 The small fruits are well rounded and delimited in the real ones whileThe small fruits are well rounded and delimited in the real ones while they are notnot for fakes. |
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racatrien
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Post by racatrien on Sept 3, 2021 20:19:30 GMT
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Post by racatrien on Sept 3, 2021 20:21:17 GMT
I specify that here the stamps to illustrate my page are all fake Fournier |
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Post by racatrien on Sept 3, 2021 20:26:42 GMT
On the 05 on 15 gray of the first photo we find the false cancelled
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Post by adamgarfinkle on Sept 15, 2021 17:12:09 GMT
This is all very helpful, thanks. Yet my basic question--are there fakes with the correct perforations?--remains unanswered explicitly. But I am assuming from the foregoing that the answer is "yes."
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Post by racatrien on Sept 15, 2021 19:35:25 GMT
In my opinion no obvious differences concerning the perforations (14) but very often the combs having been put more randomly we observe odd teeth often in the angles.
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Post by renden on Sept 15, 2021 20:05:48 GMT
In my opinion no obvious differences concerning the perforations (14) but very often the combs having been put more randomly we observe odd teeth often in the angles. Bravo racatrien !! - je n'ai pas ces timbres du Madagascar/Malagassy - tres intéressant - Very interesting to have your input on this FORUM - it seems we probably have, in general, a few of those ....of the colonies....- now do I care (for now) .......not sure..... René |
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