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Swiss strubels - I can't identify Aug 17, 2013 5:50:42 GMT

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Post by spain1850 on Aug 17, 2013 5:50:42 GMT

These are the Swiss stamps I got on ebay, that I mentioned in my thread about taking advantage of sellers mistakes.

I'm just a amateur worldwide collector and these are the first of this type to grace my collection. Looking through Scott's specialized I seem to be having a hard time figuring out which number these are. They all appear to have the emerald thread, but I don't have any others to compare paper thickness with. Although they all "feel" like they are of the same thickness (gave them the "flick" test). So what's the best way to at least eliminate some of the possibilities? Does anyone have a side by side example of fine vs. rough impression?

Like most things in my collection though, I first assume they are the most common variety - Sc. #36 & 37

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Swiss strubels - I can't identify Aug 18, 2013 20:08:33 GMT

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Post by antoniusra on Aug 18, 2013 20:08:33 GMT

Richard A few of these can be difficult to identify but most are not that bad. The most important rule of thumb is that CDS cancellors are very rare before May 23 of 1857.
Consider anything with CDS to be after this date. The grill cancellors were not used after this date. The differences in paper make identifying the rest pretty straight forward.
The emergency paper is so thin that most have fallen apart by now.
Also it looks like you could probably get the year date off a few of those which is usually the most helpful in identifying types that were printed in different years no matter what country.
It's amazing how many people never think of that.

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Swiss strubels - I can't identify Aug 18, 2013 21:50:29 GMT

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Post by spain1850 on Aug 18, 2013 21:50:29 GMT

Mitchell, thanks for the great information. I've been trying to do some investigating myself and found some of the same things mentioned here and there. But it's nice to hear them in a short concise format. I think there are a lot of areas in philately that intimidate people until they find out how relatively simple they really are.
I have also read that the later printings have really small spacing between the stamps. The 3rd one on the top row could be a copy from the top row of the sheet, maybe?
Something else I've read concerning the rough vs. fine impressions is that on the rough impressions have more of a build up of ink around the figure of Helvetia, where the background and the figure meet. And the solid colored areas have more of a blotchy look to them. the fine impressions have a smooth colored appearance.
I will see if I can do some photo manipulation to bring out the cancels a bit better.

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