daveg28
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Post by daveg28 on Mar 12, 2018 16:29:24 GMT
So I shared this on a Facebook page last night, and I learned a little that I didn't know. The stamp on the left is in my album already. The stamp on the right, I found in a collection I recently was given. I had asked if they were similar varieties and maybe one had faded, or could it be something else. I was told by multiple people that I had come across an 832g. Odd, because my catalog (no, it's not a Scott catalog, it's from the USPS) didn't show a g variety. Turns out that its rather rare and worth a few bucks. Do you all agree with this assessment? If so, I'm pleasantly surprised with my little find. And, if this all true, it makes me wonder how long it's been attached (with a hinge) to the little card and priced at only 7c! Unless someone just didn't know what they were selling and assumed it was a regular 832.  photo upload sites |
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Mar 12, 2018 16:59:06 GMT
Colors,monitors ,and catalogs.I would have to see C,G.and H side by side to give opinion
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 12, 2018 17:04:06 GMT
So I shared this on a Facebook page last night, and I learned a little that I didn't know. The stamp on the left is in my album already. The stamp on the right, I found in a collection I recently was given. I had asked if they were similar varieties and maybe one had faded, or could it be something else. I was told by multiple people that I had come across an 832g. Odd, because my catalog (no, it's not a Scott catalog, it's from the USPS) didn't show a g variety. Turns out that its rather rare and worth a few bucks. Do you all agree with this assessment? If so, I'm pleasantly surprised with my little find. And, if this all true, it makes me wonder how long it's been attached (with a hinge) to the little card and priced at only 7c! Unless someone just didn't know what they were selling and assumed it was a regular 832. Thanks for the interesting post, Dave. I had never heard of an #832g before now. When I first looked in my 2006 "Standard" Scott Catalogue, I noted that #832 only listed varieties up to #832f. But when I looked in my 2017 Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue, there is, indeed, a #832g, bright magenta and black with a CV of $80.00 in unused, never hinged condition. It does not specify what the value of a hinged copy would be, but has the general note: "Hinged unused stamps from No. 772 to present are worth considerably less than the values given for unused stamps, which are for never-hinged examples." Well, I think it is a nice find in any case, especially if it was given to you! |
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daveg28
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Post by daveg28 on Mar 12, 2018 17:09:27 GMT
Agreed, I think it's a nice find, too. No doubt the hinging makes it worth considerably less than $80. Plus, mine is used. Good thing I'm in this for the enjoyment, and not the money. Finding something like this just adds to the fun. I was told it was rare. If it is...cool! it's still going in my album.
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 12, 2018 17:14:45 GMT
Agreed, I think it's a nice find, too. No doubt the hinging makes it worth considerably less than $80. Plus, mine is used. Good thing I'm in this for the enjoyment, and not the money. Finding something like this just adds to the fun. I was told it was rare. If it is...cool! it's still going in my album. Yes, of course, it's used.... what was I thinking? Oddly, the Scott Classic Catalogue does not indicate a value for the stamp in used condition. It only shows "--". Perhaps someone else who knows more about the Prexies and the vagaries of the Scott catalogue will be able to explain that. I always thought that "--" in the price column meant that the stamp is not known in that condition, but that doesn't seem likely in this case. |
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Post by dgdecker on Mar 12, 2018 17:21:22 GMT
Dave,
congratulations on your find. Most of my joy in collecting has been making discoveries like this. While it is a pleasure to find a rarity that might have value, I just enjoy having it in my collection. If it’s worth something. Bonus.
david
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 17:30:57 GMT
I kept this file for reference - however monitors show varying colors      832 (purple), 832c (red-violet), 832g (bright magenta) The 832g is not listed as used, the red violet is 832g's in auctions are all unused/mint  added comment: These stamps have variations in color esp. the 832g which comes in darker shades. With age & soaking, colors may become very hard to gauge especially with red tones that can easily degrade. As the US specialized notes "The 832g is the far end of the color spectrum for the 832c" |
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Mar 12, 2018 18:20:29 GMT
After seeing the three (thanks Falchung) I'm leaning towards (c) red violet.
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Mar 12, 2018 22:18:39 GMT
As a colorblind collector I'll be the last person to offer an opinion regarding color; however, I can share the opinion of the Philatelic Foundation regarding two stamps submitted to them as Scott 832g. The stamp on the left was determined to be Scott 832c (Cert. 541527) and the one on the right was determined to be a genuine Scott 832g (Cert. 541526). |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 11:55:21 GMT
Interesting choice of 2 very similar stamps above.
I am not familiar with US postmarks but it seems odd that the right one has a purplish postmark and what appears to be a color stain besides it - color alteration ?
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Mar 13, 2018 13:12:22 GMT
Per this Linn's Stamp News article, it is likely that the purple hand stamp indicated that the item that was mailed had been insured. |
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Post by mdroth on Mar 18, 2018 11:42:50 GMT
Went looking for US classic posts....seems this has been the only one in ages...how can that be??
In any case - DaveG - that's an awesome find. From what I can see, that stamp is worthy of being sent in for a cert. Esp given the the fact that it is not listed in Scott in used condition. If you submit that as a 'used 832g' and they give you a clean cert, I would say you have - in fact - found a rarity!
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daveg28
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Post by daveg28 on Mar 20, 2018 12:23:22 GMT
mdroth...Really? This stamp is that rare? I don't have that kind of luck. Once I identified what it is, I still figured it was worth maybe $10 on a good day.
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Post by mdroth on Mar 20, 2018 13:26:21 GMT
I wrote a whole reply to this...where'd it go??
Anyway - yes - you should explore more with this stamp. Colors on monitors don't work - an expert needs to see it first-hand. You could try a show before sending in for a cert? Or take some good scans - next to the basic 832 - so we can compare better to the certified copies? (your original post was a picture, right?)
Your luck doesn't change until it does!?!
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