laeding
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Post by laeding on Jan 12, 2024 17:57:05 GMT
laeding Listed in Klaseboer San Tomas La Guaira (identical stamps as the ones you show) Essays? essays or bogus , mentions all 4 colours Probably printed by the same printer as the 1864 due to identical perf methods. "They are very rare" I don't have Klaseboer -- thanks for posting!!
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laeding
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Post by laeding on Jan 12, 2024 18:02:08 GMT
Copyright details here.....
Thanks for sharing! I think I've seen this on his site and in a TSF post!
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laeding
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Post by laeding on Feb 15, 2024 6:24:01 GMT
Tried to add this to the calendar, but wasn't able to!
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laeding
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Post by laeding on Mar 2, 2024 21:58:54 GMT
Below are three examples of one of the "keys" to the Danish West Indies. In Scott, it is #23 for the first two, and #23a for the third, which has the "2 in the date with straight tail." In Facit, they are listed as #24a for the first two, and 24av1 for the "straight tail" copy. There were four sheets of 100 of this overprint on the 8th Printing, which is perforated 14 x 13.5. The common overprint was on the 9th Printing, which was perforated 12.75 x 12.75. There were eight positions per sheet featuring the "straight foot," for a total of 32 examples that can exist. There is one "Normal Frame" per sheet, Position 91, for a total of four, which I am still looking to acquire. Effective January 1, 1902 there was a rate reduction lowering the domestic letter rate and the rate for foreign postcards from 3 cents to 2 cents. There weren't, however, any 2 cents stamps available in DWI, so the now-obsolete 3 cent stamps were overprinted. These were later replaced by the 2 Cent "Coat of Arms" issue of 1903. It is believed that the 4 sheets that were overprinted on the 8th Printing were simply part of the stock on hand when the overprints were being produced. The very first example I discovered many years ago was a nice NH copy searching a dealer's box of 102 cards at a show, and I picked it up for $8. Having acquired three more copies, I sold it to raise cash to purchase other items. For sentimental reasons, I wish I still had it, but the gentleman who purchased it was quite happy with the deal, so it's all good! This is truly one of those stamps lurking in old collections and misidentified in dealer's stock, though none of these three were!
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Post by laitinenp on Mar 25, 2024 15:05:26 GMT
Let me share one clip I found several years ago. According to the Engström Handbook vol 2 there is only one bisect cover found canceled at St. Jan. I do not have any idea on how many cutouts are known to exist. D.W.I. is one of my favourite collection areas due to its rich variety of aspects you may found from these small islands. Only around 33 000 - 40 000 people lived there, 4 post offices (+ "post station" at Kingshill), British Post Office (until 1877), French Consular services, United States Brazil Steamship Line, German connection, private operators like Todd service, Jesurun & Zoon, HAPAG, even Clara Rothe steamship unissued stamps to mention some.
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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Mar 25, 2024 15:35:15 GMT
Let me share one clip I found several years ago. According to the Engström Handbook vol 2 there is only one bisect cover found canceled at St. Jan. I do not have any idea on how many cutouts are known to exist. I share your feeling about the Danish Virgin Islands. Of the thirty or so different Caribbeans--so many--somehow these stand out philatelicly. My Saint Thomas isn't rare, and it's ridiculously perfect. Of course I suspect; philatelic. But your St. John looks quite different. Engström might be on to something.
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Post by laitinenp on Mar 25, 2024 15:52:05 GMT
This bisect thing was authorized in St. Thomas from 20 Jan. 1903 on, and your clip is canceled on the next day!
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Mar 25, 2024 17:38:47 GMT
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Post by ponso1 on Mar 26, 2024 3:54:26 GMT
Here are my bisect covers:
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Post by laitinenp on Apr 16, 2024 17:04:39 GMT
Have you ever come across any tales about Clara Rothe, the steamer that carried mails and freight on the waters around the D.W.I. for a short period of time in late 1860's?
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Apr 16, 2024 17:46:22 GMT
Have you ever come across any tales about Clara Rothe, the steamer that carried mails and freight on the waters around the D.W.I. for a short period of time in late 1860's? St. Thomas Porto Rico, Clara Rothe. 1869 Bogus issue, Clara Rothe steamship in the centre with arms of Denmark above it. Nine values perf 10½ exist all imperforate The Clara Rothe really existed, but it didn't serve any mail any more when these stamps existed. This issue is entirely a bogus issue , of which forgeries exist Stamps printed by M Stern in Paris Source : Klaseboer PS: Your "Un Real" (very apt) and your "Cuatro reales" (sic) are possible Spiro forgeries (Front mast touching the sword)
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Apr 16, 2024 18:25:13 GMT
Let me share one clip I found several years ago. According to the Engström Handbook vol 2 there is only one bisect cover found canceled at St. Jan. I do not have any idea on how many cutouts are known to exist. D.W.I. is one of my favourite collection areas due to its rich variety of aspects you may found from these small islands. Only around 33 000 - 40 000 people lived there, 4 post offices (+ "post station" at Kingshill), British Post Office (until 1877), French Consular services, United States Brazil Steamship Line, German connection, private operators like Todd service, Jesurun & Zoon, HAPAG, even Clara Rothe steamship unissued stamps to mention some. Mr. Klaseboer does not show a "St Jan" bisect (Now St John) I dare say he would be very interested to see an image, if you care to contact him. In the interests of expanding Philatelic knowledge. link
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Apr 16, 2024 18:31:58 GMT
Further Information on the "Clara Rothe" bogus and forgeries linkFor reference only Jay Smith linkThe Stamp Forum Link link
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Apr 16, 2024 19:16:07 GMT
Have you ever come across any tales about Clara Rothe, the steamer that carried mails and freight on the waters around the D.W.I. for a short period of time in late 1860's? The Genuine Service of the Clara Rothe The Stamp Collector's magazine July 1st 1869 From author "Luisgo" link shown Author of clipping Joseph E Dixon, Saint Thomas, West Indies link
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