jonestamps78
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Post by jonestamps78 on Oct 22, 2018 16:28:53 GMT
I bought estate lot from the US on Ebay and I came across this particular stamp, those anyone give me information about it?  thanks!!!! |
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hrdoktorx
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What I collect: France (and French territories), Africa, Canada, USA, Germany, Guatemala, stamps about science, flags, maps, stamps on stamps...
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 22, 2018 16:52:17 GMT
I bought estate lot from the US on Ebay and I came across this particular stamp, those anyone give me information about it? This appears to be a German Empire stamp, from the first issue ("small breastplate on eagle") after German unification, issued in 1871. This 1 groschen carmine issue is YT#4. The relief on your copy comes out amazingly well. I have rarely seen such a good copy, unless you played some tricks with the photography to make the relief come out. Usually, the difference between small and large breastplates is very hard to make out! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 17:40:55 GMT
There is a problem when compared to the original
There is "mention" of an imperf but the frame is wrong
Also letters are different - note in particular the top serif on the 1
The postmark does appear to be in the right font and date
Needs looking into - a cutout of some type?
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hrdoktorx
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What I collect: France (and French territories), Africa, Canada, USA, Germany, Guatemala, stamps about science, flags, maps, stamps on stamps...
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 22, 2018 17:45:18 GMT
There is a problem when compared to the original
There is "mention" of an imperf but the frame is wrong
Also letters are different - note in particular the top serif on the 1 I agree. Hence my use of the word "appears". This stamp looks too good to be true, but I am not enough of an expert to deem it a forgery. So I would be cautious with this one. |
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salentin
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collecting Germany,where I live and about 20 more countries,half of them in Asia east of the Indus
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Post by salentin on Oct 22, 2018 18:01:13 GMT
It´s no stamp,but a cut-out from an envelope,issued 1872. I cannot find or possibly do not own that envelope,but here the very similar one of the North German Confederation:
As one can see there is an overprint from left to right:
There should be traces of that overprint on your specimen. However,as the embossing of the stamp is a very strong one,likely not much of the overprint will be on the stamp.
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renden
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What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA
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Post by renden on Oct 22, 2018 20:25:55 GMT
do not see any stamp.......
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renden
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What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA
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Post by renden on Oct 22, 2018 21:09:21 GMT
You posted the same subject in 2 threads - this explains my comment in another thread with same question - I am not a moderator !!
Cheers and good luck.......cannot contribute to your question but will follow it
René
p.s I would delete the other one, empty......
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Oct 22, 2018 22:44:36 GMT
Hi jonestamps78 and welcome to this forum. I made a similar discovery like yourself a few years ago, but soon realized it was just a cut out of a postal stationary I had found. So I agree with what the others have already said above - what you have is proabably a cut-out. In order to give a better image for experts to look at, I would recommend to forget about the camera. Scan the stamp at 600 dpi or more, front and back - and post each image seperately. Hope you have access to a scanner? Most 'households' scanner/copy machines will do a fair job at it. Good luck! Jon |
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