Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 17, 2019 14:45:51 GMT
I have posted a few times over the past six months about some old album pages I bought from the stamp dealer in Aix, which had all 19th Century issues on it. Most of them were from South America and the Caribbean islands. And it seems that there is a high probability that there are some possible forgeries in these pages. Nelson (@falshung) was able to help a great deal on the issues from Saint Lucia a while back (thank you very much). Below are some other stamps about which I am unsure:    I have tried to identify these using a Scott Catalogue, and my best guesses are, from left to right: Sc 20, 16, and 25. To my untrained eye, the 4p blue does not compare very favorably to the other two, so I wonder if it may be a forgery. Any and all comments welcome on both correct catalogue numbers and whether genuine or not. Unfortunately, I do not have access to the stamps at the moment, just the scans. |
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Post by jimwentzell on Jan 17, 2019 16:01:13 GMT
Hi Chris!
To my untrained eyes (but we are both then in training, n'est-ce pas?!?) the two stamps on the right look suspect. The far right stamp even seems to be quite a bit shorter (top-to-bottom it doesn't seem to "measure up" to the other two; maybe it was scanned separately and therefore is a slightly smaller scale). Plus in the middle stamp the corners (Maltese crosses) look way off suspect. I would only venture the first stamp looks passable as genuine, if I was forced to guess.
Just my 2 cents!
--Jim
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 16:09:24 GMT
As far as forgeries of St. Vincent go, they fall into 2 categories; The Oneglia/Panelli excellent forgeries and the poorly executed others.
The 1861-71 with no watermarks are the main targets
Your blue looks like a Spiro (the most common forgeries) - the heavy eyebrow gives it away as shown below. The guide lines in the corners are also an indicator
The Panelli's below are very good other than the crooked line under VINCENT & some other minor issues in lettering.
Based on what I can see the black 1p looks OK (surprisingly good!) and would be a very well centered sample with good perfs, the green one I cannot tell from the scan. It is however a low value stamp used so not much reason to fake it.
The common cancel on your 1p appears OK and you can compare it to this genuine 
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 17, 2019 18:01:39 GMT
As far as forgeries of St. Vincent go, they fall into 2 categories; The Oneglia/Panelli excellent forgeries and the poorly executed rest.
The 1861-71 with no watermarks are the main targets
Your blue looks like a Spiro (the most common forgeries) - the heavy eyebrow gives it away as seen below. The guide lines are also an indicator
The Panelli's below are very good other than the crooked line under VINCENT & some other minor issues in lettering.
Based on what I can see the black 1p looks OK (surprisingly good!) and would be a very well centered sample with good perfs, the green one I cannot tell from the scan. It is however a low value stamp used so not much reason to fake it.
The common cancel on your 1p appears OK and you can compare it to this genuine
Nelson, many thanks for your quick and excellent response. Jim ( jimwentzell), thanks for weighing in, too. Nelson, I also appreciate your comment that the 1p black looks pretty good for the issue. I never had any QV era stamps from St. Vincent before this acquisition, so I really didn't have any means for comparison. I will hunt carefully when trying to add some better stamps in this area of my collection. I note that the QV portrait in the Panelli forgeries looks very close to the genuine ones. Jim, I agree that the 1p gray green is not a very attractive stamp, and my apologies that the scan is not especially helpful. In truth, all of these stamps were scanned as part of the same larger image, and then cropped out, so in theory, the scanned image quality is the same for each. The perfs on the 1p gray green are obviously very rough, which also lends to its overall rather shabby appearance. |
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