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Post by abctoo on Jul 6, 2019 4:27:48 GMT
Kosmo, maybe you can help some of us understand the Russian 1922-1927 "Gold Definitive Set" differences between lithographed ( лито ) stamps and typographed ( типо ) stamps? I have seen many diagrams and descriptions, but am still confused. Below is a scan of three stamps. I think the 20k. green is lithographed ( лито ), while the 8k. olive brown are typo ( типо ). I note the shoulder on the right side of the 20k. stamp (the left shoulder) is completely separated from the rest of the body, while in both of the 8k. stamps, there are some lines joining that shoulder to the rest of the body. Is the last stamp pictured a re-engraved typographed stamp (the type II) as the right shoulder (pictured on the left side of the stamp) appears to be rounded, while the middle stamp does not have that rounding (type I) or are both the original (type I) just different typographed issues? These differences are not easy to understand.
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Post by abctoo on Oct 24, 2019 5:39:31 GMT
"To Kosmo: Thank you for posting the picture of the Lugansk Луганск stamps of the Lugansk People's Republic Луганская Народная Республика. * * * It would be interesting to find out what such stamps would look like if postally cancelled on an envelope or postcard that was delivered locally with its territory, as well as how such stamps are treated on international covers. Postally used items may be difficult to locate and probably only philatelically created material is available here. Perhaps, I should write them and see how the mail is delivered to places not recognized by the U.P.U." I wrote to the Postmasters of both the Lugansk People's Republic and the Donetsk People's Republic in Eastern Ukraine at the end of July 2019. Today, 23 October 2019, my letter to Lugansk was returned, with the stated reason,"UPU Circular #7 of 19.01.2015." While the UPU website does not let "non-members" access these circulars, Google translates a third party website in Russian to say: "Circular Letter of the Universal Postal Union No. 7 from (UPU Circular # 7 of 01/19/2015) . According to this circular letter, Ukrposhta (the Ukrainian Post Office) from May 19, 2015 to the present does not accept mail items for appointment (delivery) to the listed settlements of Donetsk and Lugansk region." If anything different occurs for Donestk, I will let you know.
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Post by abctoo on Oct 29, 2019 1:51:42 GMT
Today (October 28, 2019), my July 27, 2019 letter to the Donetsk People's Republic PMG was returned. It has similar markings to the returned Lugansk letter posted just above. I have added a closeup scan of the cancellation on the return label, which reads " PL-2 KYIV / 1 / 15.08.19 :00 / UKRAINA ". Since the mailing instruction I typed on each letter said "VIA RUSSIA," either the US postal service ignored that direction and sent it directly to the Ukrainian post office, or the Russian post office transferred them to the Ukrainian post office rather than use Russia's internal mail system which I understand recognizes both of these Ukrainian break-away republics. I guess I may have to try again, this time instead of saying "VIA" Russia, just address them to Russia.
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Post by renden on Dec 22, 2019 18:40:23 GMT
FDC 17-2-1983 USSR/CCCP Scott 5125 Litho "Holy Family"
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Post by stanley64 on Dec 22, 2019 19:12:48 GMT
A timely posting for the Christmas season; thanks for sharing renden !
The FDC celebrates the 500th year anniversary on the birth of the Renaissance painter Raphael and the art work depicted, now currently in the permanent collection of Russia's Hermitage Museum, goes by the English title " Madonna with Beardless St Joseph" painted in 1506.
Happy collecting!
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Post by renden on Dec 22, 2019 19:26:33 GMT
A timely posting for the Christmas season; thanks for sharing renden !
The FDC celebrates the 500th year anniversary on the birth of the Renaissance painter Raphael and the art work depicted, now currently in the permanent collection of Russia's Hermitage Museum, goes by the English title " Madonna with Beardless St Joseph" painted in 1506.
Happy collecting!
Thanks stanley64 for adding content to this FDC René
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Post by JeffS on Feb 22, 2020 17:40:57 GMT
USSR SEA LIFE CUTOUTS USED AS POSTAGE
In 1990 the USSR issued 4 stamps depicting sea life. Apparently a brochure existed with pictures of the stamps. An enterprising person cut out two images and successfully used them as postage on a letter to the USA.
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Post by abctoo on May 5, 2020 7:56:11 GMT
I thought my stamp collecting friends would appreciate seeing the pictured postcard autographed in Russian by Inna Chernetskaya (Инна Чернецкая), futuristic dance theorist of the Russian Civil War and early Soviet era. She writes about her performance being pleasurable. Chernetskaya was a major force in modern Russian dance from 1914 to 1929. Inna Chernetskaya was born as Boytler (Beutler), Inna Samoilovna (Бойтлер, Инна Самойловна) on August 29, 1894 to a Jewish family in Riga, then in the Latvian part of the Russian Empire, though some say she was born in Moscow. Her brothers were comedian actor and film producer Arkady Boytler (Арка́дий Бойтлер, 1890s-1965), architect and civil engineer Veniamin Boytler and bicycle racer Mikhail Boytler, with Anna Boytler her sister. After graduating from high school in 1910, Chernetskaya studied natural sciences at the University of Berlin, and at the same time studied at the dance school of Elizabeth Duncan (the sister of the dancer Isadora Duncan) in Darmstadt. She transferred to the University of Lausanne at the Department of History and Philosophy. Later in Munich, she studied music from Alexander Sakharoff (Alexandre Sajharov, Александр Сахаров, 1886-1963) and painting from Russian expressionist Alexei Yavlensky (Алексе́й Явле́нский, 1864-1941, known in German as Alexej von Jawlensky). For amusement, we have included a scan of Alexei Yavlensky's “Portrait of a dancer Alexander Sakharov” (1909). During several tours of Russia beginning about 1906, Isadora Duncan helped plastic and rhythmic dancing become widespread, particularly with her successful Russian performances in 1912. About that time, Chernetskaya's studies were specialized in Rudolp von Laban, the Austro-Hungarian dance artist and theorist, a pioneer of modern dance in Europe and known as the "Founding Father of the Expressionist Dance" in Germany. In parallel with her studies, Chernetskaya engaged in developing the foundations of her “synthetic dance” theories. In early 1914, she continued her studies at the Emil Jacques-Dalcroze Academy of Gymnastics [Jaques-Dalcroze (1865 - 1950), the Swiss composer, musician and music educator who had developed Dalcroze Eurhythmics, an approach to learning and experiencing music through movement]. In the summer of 1914, Chernetskaya returned to Russia. Settling in Moscow, Chernetskaya studied at the school of choreographer Mikhail Mordkin (Михаил Мордкин, 1880-1944) and at Alexander Adashey's drama courses associated with the Moscow Art Theatre. “Adashev” was the stage name of Alexander Platonov (Александр Платонов, 1871–1934). Also in 1914, Chernetskaya opened her own school-studio at the intersection of Sadovaya and Tverskaya Streets (house number 10), where she sought to combine music, painting and various types of stage movement in the production. The dance she created, striving to merge choreography with painting, music and drama, was called “synthetic dance.” Chernetskaya's first solo performance took place at the Zimin Theater (opera house) in 1915. Then she opened her own classes for training actors of this “synthetic theater, where they were taught plastic, acrobatics and gesture. The Soviets registered Chernetskaya's studio in 1919. In 1916, the movie factory of Aleksandr Khanzhonkov (Александр Ханжонков, 1877-1945) released a picture with the participation of Russian actress Vera Kholodnaya (Вера Холодная). One of the producers of the film was Chernetskaya's brother, Arkady Boytler (Арка́дий Бойтлер). The main character of the picture was called "Inna Chernetskaya" (Инна Чернецкая). Her brother is most renowned as a producer, screenwriter and director as Arcady Boytler-Rososky, the Mexican name he is credited with for his films beginning in the early 1930s during the golden age of Mexican cinema. In 1917, Chernetskaya married Boris Shcherbakov and her son Yuri Shcherbakov was born. During the Russian Civil War, Chernetskaya moved her studio to the Russian Caucasian town of Kislovodsk. At the opening of the studio in Kislovodsk, the poet Vyacheslav Ivanov (Вячесла́в Ива́нов, 1866-1949) spoke. In addition to working in the studio, Chernetskaya taught at the Kislovodsk Conservatory, gave lectures, arranged demonstration evenings, in which famous artists and poets took part. In the 1920s, Chernetskaya returned to Moscow and reopened her studio at the choreological laboratory (1923). In 1922, she participated in the first ballet olympiad. In 1923, Chernetskaya performed at the Bryusov anniversary at the Bolshoi Theater with her composition “Pan” (to the music of Hungarian composer Ernst von Dohnányi (Dohnányi Ernő, 1877-1960). Playwright Anatoly Lunacharsky (Анато́лий Лунача́рский, 1875-1933), the First People's Commissar for Ministry and Education (1917-1929) and associated with the founding of the Moscow Drama Theater in 1919, called Chernetskaya's composition "Pan" "a pure pearl of stage plastic." She collaborated with international magazines, in particular, participated in the discussion between the "Isadora Duncan" and "Munich" supporters of the development of dance and wrote internationally about Moscow Ballet. In May 1924, Chernetskaya put on dance compositions to the music “Mephisto Waltz” by Franz Liszt and “The Middle Ages” by Alexander Glazunov (Алекса́ндр Глазуно́в, 1865-1936) and performed in the costumes by Armenian Constructionist artist and set designer Georgy Yakulov (Գևորգ Յակուլյան, 1884-1928). In 1925, Chernetskaya went to Paris and Germany with a delegation to prepare for the exhibition of Russian contemporary artists at the International Exposition of Modern Industrial and Decorative Arts. There, she met Russian Impressionist and set designer Konstantin Korovin (Константи́н Коро́вин, 1861-1939) and will be in correspondence with him until the end of his life. She also recovered contacts with her choreographic school and teachers, and continued to seriously prepare a theoretical justification for her work. In 1927, she worked as a director at the Jewish Theater of the Moscow Jewish Theater Studio Freikunst. In 1926-27, Chernetskaya developed the ballet composition Stal ("Steel”). Trying to find a composer, by February 1927, she turns unsuccessfully to Sergei Prokofiev (Сергей Прокофьев, 1891-1953). Stal was never staged. Instead, on December 4, 1927, composer Alexander Mosolov (Алекса́ндр Мосоло́в, 1900-1973) presents "Iron Foundry" as the first movement of an orchestral suite from this ballet in a Moscow concert by the Association for Contemporary Music commemorating the tenth anniversary of the Russian Revolution. The score of this first movement, "Iron Foundry," survives only from contemporary publication in Germany as “Die Eisengiesserei - The Iron Foundry” (aus dem Ballett "Stahl"). The remaining three movements are lost. Mosolov became a victim of the ideological battle between the radical Association for Contemporary Music, of which he was an enthusiastic member, and the more conservative Russian Association for Proletarian Musicians. Mosolov found himself on the losing side and was soon being denounced as an ‘enemy of the people’. For many years after 1928 none of his music was publicly performed. In 1936, Mosolov was imprisoned in a gulag and only released by extensive pressure from the Russian intelligentsia. In 1938, his papers and scores were stolen and are now lost. In 1928, Chernetskaya became a teacher and director at the Bolshoi Theater. In 1929, Lunacharsky, who had been the Soviet Commissar for Ministry and Education from the beginning (and whose responsibilities included censorship) moved out of that position to international work for the government and dies in 1933. As above, Lunacharsky had described Chernetskaya's 1922 production of "Pan" as "a pure pearl of stage plastic." In 1929, the struggle between the studio dance movement and classical ballet was coming to a head. With Lunancharsky no longer in a position to support modern dance styles, Chernetskaya's studio premises were taken away. Her apartment on the Arbat sealed. A neighbor was assigned to “snitch” on her. By the early thirties, all dance styles, except the classical one, were denied official support. For some time Chernetskaya staged dances at GOSET (ГОСЕТ), the acronym for the Moscow State Jewish (Yiddish) Theatre (Московский Государственный Еврейский Театр). She sometimes wrote reviews of ballet performances. But, Chernetskaya could no longer develop her own art. She could no longer train actors in her revolutionary “synthetic dance” theories, nor develop its forms of plastic, acrobatics and gesture. Later, she joined Stanislavsky’s Opera and Drama Studio as a dance teacher. After the second World War, she continues to teach. But, the battle of Russian dance had been won by the classicists, with rigid form prevailing over the expression of the mood the dance sought to convey.
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Post by abctoo on May 6, 2020 6:56:21 GMT
Oops! I forgot to include the scan of Alexei Yavlensky's 1909 “Portrait of a dancer Alexander Sakharov”: For additional amusement, here's a picture related to Chernetskaya's 1923 performance at the Bryusov anniversary at the Bolshoi Theater with her composition “Pan” (to the music of Hungarian composer Ernst von Dohnányi (Dohnányi Ernő, 1877-1960). This is the controversial dance style, as indicated in above post that playwright Anatoly Lunacharsky (Анато́лий Лунача́рский, 1875-1933), the First People's Commissar for Ministry and Education (1917-1929) and associated with the founding of the Moscow Drama Theater in 1919, called "a pure pearl of stage plastic."
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Post by abctoo on May 8, 2020 7:48:38 GMT
The International mails are at it again. [See my posts in this thread of May 11, 2019 and October 28, 2019). While this time it is not a Russian related cover, on April 04, 2020 I mailed a package to the United Arab Emirates. A few hours ago (May 7, 2020), the package was returned to my post office box with a new label the reads: "MAIL SERVICE SUSPENDED, RETURN TO SENDER." I thought the problem was solved during the third bubonic plague outbreak that began in 1855. I am sure there are several of us who read the Stamp Forum who are interested in the "disinfected covers" from that period where little slits were made and the article fumigated. I guess panic and government ineptitude cannot resolve issues already solved two centuries ago.
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Post by cursus on May 8, 2020 9:54:58 GMT
Two Russian stationery circulated in 1995 and 1996
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Post by kosmo on May 16, 2020 18:33:55 GMT
Two Russian stationery circulated in 1995 and 1996
I like Russian postal envelopes of this period.There are many interesting items found there. And a lot of fake mail envelopes)))
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Post by abctoo on Aug 11, 2020 2:32:05 GMT
Laika ' Лайка ' in Sputnik 2 on November 3, 1957 got past suborbital space. The theme of space is immense. Back in May 2019, Kosmo was showing some Russian space covers. I just found this 1958 Russian space cover and learned something new. The text printed on the cover is " Слава совемской науке! / 3000 обпромов / вокруг земли / 15.V.-19.XII.1958г " which translates to "Glory to Soviet science! / 3000 revolutions / around the Earth / 15 May to 19 December 1958 ." The cancel starts with " 3000 ОБПРОТОВ 3гд СПУТНИКА ," or "3000 revolutions 3rd Satellite." " СПУТНИКА " transliterates as "Sputnika." Back then with all of the hype about the Cold War in space, we thought "Sputnik" was a special name for a Russian satellite and never thought it just meant "satellite." While this cover comes from the era of the flight of CCCP-3 Sputnik some 3000 times around the earth, it obviously was made up as a souvenir when that was completed.
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Post by greaden on Aug 11, 2020 2:42:13 GMT
This cover bears a Russian stamp, and is from an area that became part of the Soviet Union but is now in Uzbekistan. Before the Great War, Bukhara was an independent county in central Asia, but Russia had a post office there.
Here is a late nineteenth century map that shows the country:
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Post by greaden on Aug 11, 2020 3:12:15 GMT
Is a cover TO Russia relevant here? It was sent back from there with lots of Russian markings, so maybe it will slip under the wire. My grandfather was a marine biologist, and sent the letter to a colleague in Leningrad, but it was returned to sender.
Maybe it was because there were some minor inconveniences in 1944 that could have interfered with mail to Leningrad, or maybe the recipient was on vacation in some lovely camp in Siberia. I don't know, but I found this mysterious cover in the trove of stamps that found their way to me after his death.
"these terrible past months" = understatement? As for "recent developments in population dynamics", I am not sure I want to know.
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Post by greaden on Aug 11, 2020 3:22:51 GMT
I just googled the recipient and found a Wikipedia enty:
"In 1938 he was arrested. along with a group of other employees of the Zoological Institute of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR, by the NKVD because they had non-Russian surnames. Schmidt was suspected of espionage for Germany and Japan on the grounds that he had been on scientific missions in Berlin and Tokyo. After interrogation, during which the 66-year-old professor was knocked out, he signed the protocol as required by the NKVD investigators and also confessed to being an Italian spy, as his daughter lived in Italy. Eventually he was released and was able to continue his scientific activity."
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Post by abctoo on Aug 12, 2020 9:09:05 GMT
I just googled the recipient and found a Wikipedia enty: "In 1938 he was arrested. along with a group of other employees of the Zoological Institute of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR, by the NKVD because they had non-Russian surnames. Schmidt was suspected of espionage for Germany and Japan on the grounds that he had been on scientific missions in Berlin and Tokyo. After interrogation, during which the 66-year-old professor was knocked out, he signed the protocol as required by the NKVD investigators and also confessed to being an Italian spy, as his daughter lived in Italy. Eventually he was released and was able to continue his scientific activity." Great research. Thanks
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Post by kosmo on Aug 12, 2020 19:47:45 GMT
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Post by kosmo on Aug 12, 2020 19:49:07 GMT
Zoological Museum in 1929
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Post by greaden on Aug 12, 2020 22:51:07 GMT
This is at the very top of my bucket list if I ever make it to Russia, mainly because it contains Albertus Seba's great cabinet of curiosities from Amsterdam.
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Post by abctoo on Aug 15, 2020 1:10:49 GMT
This cover bears a Russian stamp, and is from an area that became part of the Soviet Union but is now in Uzbekistan. Before the Great War, Bukhara was an independent county in central Asia, but Russia had a post office there.
If you're interested in getting rid of your old-Bukhara postcard, I might have something of interest for you. Mike
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Post by greaden on Aug 15, 2020 2:35:41 GMT
Sorry I am not at the deaccessioning stage yet. It is not in my core collecting areas (aside from finding a stamp or postmark from everywhere) but was an exciting thing to find given my curiosity about the mysterious country that was in my great-grandmother's atlas but nowhere else. I keep hoping to visit that part of the world.
This cover bears a Russian stamp, and is from an area that became part of the Soviet Union but is now in Uzbekistan. Before the Great War, Bukhara was an independent county in central Asia, but Russia had a post office there.
If you're interested in getting rid of your old-Bukhara postcard, I might have something of interest for you. Mike
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Post by abctoo on Aug 16, 2020 14:38:58 GMT
I understand the sentimental value. I should have sent you a private message instead of posting in the thread. Here's a scan of what this old Bukhara site looks like today. And here a scan of it as part the historic center of Bukhara, a UNESCO World Heritage Site since 1993.
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Post by abctoo on Aug 18, 2020 6:37:33 GMT
Is a cover TO Russia relevant here? It was sent back from there with lots of Russian markings, so maybe it will slip under the wire. My grandfather was a marine biologist, and sent the letter to a colleague in Leningrad, but it was returned to sender.
Maybe it was because there were some minor inconveniences in 1944 that could have interfered with mail to Leningrad, or maybe the recipient was on vacation in some lovely camp in Siberia. I don't know, but I found this mysterious cover in the trove of stamps that found their way to me after his death.
"these terrible past months" = understatement? As for "recent developments in population dynamics", I am not sure I want to know.
I cannot go without saying just how much this USA / Russia cover is a treasure. As you can see from the cancelations, it took a year from mailing to be returned (Palo Alto Jan 27, 1944 to New York January 3, 1945). I've seen other covers blocked by the War take up to 6 months, but never a year. Take good care of it and be careful not to loosen the labels that were added on during its trek. The wear and tear the cover has from so much handling in the process makes it even more desirable. Both your personal family history and that of the individual it was sent to add to that appreciation. Thanks for showing it. Mike P.S. You mentioned you had more stuff. Anything else you'd like to show us?
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Post by abctoo on Sept 11, 2020 21:53:15 GMT
On a lighter side, here's a cool postcard to end a hot summer.
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Post by andy on Oct 11, 2020 8:14:42 GMT
I love the last Soviet era covers. I had penfriends in the former USSR and received a lot of these. During the final months of the USSR and the early days of the new republics I received many which I really should have kept as fascinating examples of postal history - overprints, a huge number of additional stamps to the pre-printed postage affixed (often on both sides of the envelope) due to hyperinflation, the stamps of both "old" and "new" countries appearing side by side, etc. Unfortunately I didn't realise the value of what I had and simply soaked the stamps off. However, I've obtained some of these covers for my collection since. The top one here shows a USSR pre-printed envelope with an additional USSR stamp alongside some Latvian stamps. The other I've added as a nice example of a Soviet era cover - and typically Soviet stamp design!
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Post by kosmo on Oct 18, 2020 14:29:37 GMT
Did the envelope with Latvian stamps get through the mail? The period 1991-1996 is the most interesting in the USSR,Russia and post-Soviet States.I have more than 200 envelopes for sale.
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Post by andy on Oct 18, 2020 14:57:10 GMT
I believe it did, Kosmo, although I can't say for definite. It wasn't written to myself, but this came from a bundle of letters - within the envelope was a letter and a photograph so I would imagine this was posted and for some reason escaped the postmark. I certainly received several similar to this one in the early 1990s.
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Post by kosmo on Oct 18, 2020 15:24:41 GMT
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Post by abctoo on Oct 23, 2020 18:46:02 GMT
[Note: About an hour after first posting, I looked at the enlargements shown here and made the corrections as indicated. Sorry for the confusion, but I still need a little help identifying this item. Thanks] Here are two South Russia (Don Cossack Republic) November 1918 stamps on piece canceled " Новочерка́сскъ NOVOCHERKASSK / JAN 8 19" that I've had for decades. January 8, 1919 is ascribed in many listings as the day when the Armed Forces of South Russia were created, when the Don Army made an agreement to be subordinates of commander Anton Denikin. As various catalogues point out, with most Russian civil war material, forgeries (both of the stamps and of postmarks on them) are not uncommon. Further, pictures of apparent genuine postal usages seem to all have the city name written in Russian as "Новочерка́сск" and not as here in a Roman script as "NOVOCHERKASSK." Catalogues do note, for example, "that a fair number of mint copies (with a few cancelled by favour) were taken back to Germany by soldiers returning from World War I." So, I guess my question is multiple. (1) While I think the overprints are genuine, are they? (2) Is the " Новочерка́сскъ" KOVOCHERKASSK" cancel a genuine postal cancel? Can anyone provide a scan of a similar cancel on a postally used cover? (3) Is the " Новочерка́сскъ" "NOVOCHERKASSK" cancel a favor cancel? of an actual postal cancel? If so, can anyone provide a scan of another example of a favor cancel? (4) If not a genuine cancel, is it a known forgery? Where might that be referenced? Thanks, Mike
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