Danish 4 skilling

Thanks a lot vikingeck
If you click on image there is a link to full resolution. If not I have a 1200dpi resolution I can upload. 

Really interesting what you tell about the postmarks, I have no reference to check those I think. 

I think it must be 133


(I need to clean my scanner glass) 

133  will be Segeberg not  Meldorf then. 
And the others  will be  :

9. BREDSTEDT     that is relatively scarce
10 BURG that is relatively scarce

36 KOGE
45 NIBE
63 SKANDERBORG
88 ROSKILDE 

I will find my other danish quadrats and scan them, later tonight.
Nice to have someone with the knowledge here 👍

Here are three FIRE R.B.S 
I cant see the numbers in the postmarks and I have not tried to find what printing, plate on them. 

Here are more 4 S. Number 5 on first line has dottet background, Facit no4? And the two on bottom line has rouletted perf, Facit 9?
The rest with wavy backgrund Facit 7?
I see postmark no 26=Hjørinr, 49=Nykjøbing, Sjælland and maybe 63= Skanderborg

8 S and 2 S. Dotted background. Facit 3 and 5? 
Postmark 181? on the far right. 181=Gare de Sjællandske

Quite a lot of study time on these issues. It is some time since I sold my collection Denmark 1851-64 and I have also sold a couple of reference books but here goes for starters.


I am suspicious of the bright rose pink 16s , the genuine rouletted stamp in good condition fetches up to $400 . That looks too bright and the image is too small for the frame. I suspect it does not have a watermark . it is a facsimile.

In the same group the 4rbs has the mute target cancel used before the numerals were issued. The yellow brown under print looks quite strong and if it feels slightlyridged it is from the first printings by Ferslew. When he died the plates were used for printings in a more purple brown by Thiele
The 2s Facit #3 , and the 4s with dotted spandrels Facit4 are both fine with excellent margins.

Incidentally when the first stamps were issued in1851 the 4 RBS was released before the lower value 2RBS so the Danes number them 1 and 2 while Scott and Gibbons have the reverse order , 2 &1.

I’ll work back on the other images.

This 4RBS is The middle Thiele print run . Thiele II with slightly blurry print as the plates wear and the typical purple brown ink shades. The Preetz Holstein cancel is better!

I have a fellow collector in Aberdeen who specialises in the Bicolour issues. He can tell matrixflaws , frameflaws and printingshades in detail and quote them all day long “ that one is printinG 36 and that on is printing 29 etc etc “

For me that way madness lies!

The squares were complicated enough . Ha ha !

Yesterday another lot with som (26) danish 4 skilling squares arrived. I did a scan of all of them. Some are posted before. 
Then a closeup on the 9 4 RBS I have. 

I would be pleased if vikingeck will have a look at them
And all of you other.

RBS-4

RBS-5

RBS-6

Ah! tobben63 , it is sad how soon one gets out of practice. I collected these issues seriously for 30 years but sold the collection and my reference books 4 years ago now. 

I struggle now with identification. 

I do not see any that are for sure the first Ferslew printings.

#4 is very fine with the complete mute cancel before the issue of numbers. I suggest Thiele 1 printing
#1256 are all Thiele II 

the colour of the scans may not be true but suggest the others are platesIII and IV from the Thiele IIIprint runs . This is where there is most colour variation with chestnut brown being the scarcest shade .

there are serious frame splitting  varieties showing in at least two stamps #3 and #8 .

i need to check the numeral cancels where they occur to see if there are any scarcer towns.  Later!

A bit late response, just wanted to say that's a marvelous accumulation of Danish Squares tobben63.
Great and valuable insight by vikingeck, thanks a lot.