vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jan 20, 2020 20:58:33 GMT
Just a comment again tobben63 regarding colour shades. It may be your scanner , it may be my computer screen but I noted in July and again this week , the images all appear redder in tone than I would expect from a large accumulation like this. Particularly in the 4s with dotted spandrels … many more pale orange brown shades would be expected. Shade give a clue to the various printings . You will see this in your AFA special catalogue at the back of the book.
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jan 20, 2020 21:35:21 GMT
vikingeck - I have the same experience as yourself, so I don't think it's anything with your screen. Most of tobbens 4 Skillings seems more red on my screen than the 'average' / norm, at least compared with what I remember from my collection. Most of mine are less red and more orange. How do they look on your screen tobben63 compared to in real life?
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Post by greaden on Jan 20, 2020 22:01:17 GMT
Is there any source on the use of Danish stamps in what is now Germany? In which areas was Denmark the main postal provider, and in which places (ie. Hamburg, Lubeck) was Denmark one of several offices?
I am especially curious about the postal services in Ratzeburg, the western exclave of Strelitz, and Oldenburg's exclave near Lubeck.
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Post by blaamand on Jan 20, 2020 22:09:30 GMT
greaden - the link I shared previously in this thread gives you a clue of the post offices in Schleswig Holstein, during the personal union with Denmark, that was later to become part of Prussia following the war in 1864.
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Post by greaden on Jan 20, 2020 22:18:13 GMT
greaden - the link I shared previously in this thread gives you a clue of the post offices in the Southern part of Denmark that was later to become part of Germany. Thank you!
Here is a cover from Ratzeburg, #150, which I understand was at the time the capital of Saxe-Lauenburg:
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jan 20, 2020 22:21:25 GMT
That's a wonderful cover greaden !!
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jan 20, 2020 22:42:34 GMT
Is there any source on the use of Danish stamps in what is now Germany? In which areas was Denmark the main postal provider, and in which places (ie. Hamburg, Lubeck) was Denmark one of several offices? I am especially curious about the postal services in Ratzeburg, the western exclave of Strelitz, and Oldenburg's exclave near Lubeck. In the 1850s the king of Denmark was also Duke of Schleswig and Duke of Holstein, but not King of these Duchies. Denmark issued stamps for the kingdom and also for use in Schleswig in 1851. They were also used in Holstein a year or two later. Many of the numeral cancels from 1854 with higher numbers than 100 will be from towns in Holstein, and the tiny enclaves of Oldenburg and Lauenburg. With the death of King Frederick VII in 1864 there were rival cousins who had different claims to the throne. Some of the titles could only be inherited through the male line and the succession was complicated. The Schleswig Holstein Question vexed political heads in Europe for years. The new Danish King tried to integrate Schleswig in particular into the Danish Kingdom leading to the 1864 war with Prussia and Austria. Schleswig and Holstein were lost to Denmark, issued their own stamps from 1865 and were eventually incorporated into Bismarck’s German Reich in 1872
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Post by tobben63 on Jan 21, 2020 6:59:20 GMT
vikingeck - I have the same experience as yourself, so I don't think it's anything with your screen. Most of tobbens 4 Skillings seems more red on my screen than the 'average' / norm, at least compared with what I remember from my collection. Most of mine are less red and more orange. How do they look on your screen tobben63 compared to in real life? I will have to check this at home. Maybe I need to adjust my picture edit settings. I think I have raised the 'gamma' settings a bit, and that could have been a bit to much Thanks for telling me vikingeck and blaamand
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Post by cursus on Jan 26, 2021 5:03:28 GMT
I've managed to scan at a proper resolution some 4 s that I bought recently. What do you think?
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Post by vikingeck on Jan 26, 2021 9:25:56 GMT
At a first look, your scans unfortunately are not as clear as I would like , but you have 3 different series here .
Stamp 1 is the. 4skilling issued in 1854 with dotted pattern in the spandrels, the area between the wreath and the frame corners
Stamp 2 is quite different it is the 4 Rigsbank skillins, 4 RBS these were the first Danish stamps. 1851. This particular printing is probably the second print by Thiele , called Thiele II in the catalogue from 1853Identified by the colour purple-brown and the distinct orange brown wavy under print or burelage. The post Mark #11 is Kappeln in Schleswig- Holstein Stamps 3and 4 are the later 1858 4 shilling issue with wavy lines in the spandrels ,postmark 53 is Randers and 34? Kobenhavn railway station. the catalogue identifies 5 printings and 8 shades of these between 1858 and 1864
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Post by cursus on Jan 26, 2021 12:50:39 GMT
Thank you very much for the complete information, Alec. It will be most useful to properly place on the album.
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