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Post by stainlessb on Jun 11, 2019 0:36:22 GMT
I received a collection (of sorts today) and I have pages and pages of stamps similar to the photo. Some I can lift off with the hinge, but many are partially glued to the page... maybe old stock pages (?) I have a lot, many on this glassine/waxy paper, and many more on manilla stock Anybody with experience soaking stamps of early France? and top left stamp on piece- would you leave it as it has a full diamond cancellation?  |
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 11, 2019 9:45:52 GMT
These will cause no problems soaking off the backing.
I would keep the cancel on #1 intact until I establish where it comes from .
The perfs on #2 look very odd at the foot . Take care the bottom piece does not come detached
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 11, 2019 12:50:48 GMT
thanks vikingeck #2 does have the top portion of what I would guess was the next stamp below (on the original sheet)- it's almost a straight "tear" Is there a listing of postmarks for France? I have 3 more pages of this stamp and many of the postmarks are nice and clear |
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Post by vikingeck on Jun 11, 2019 13:33:58 GMT
I think I may have misinterpreted the perf holes on #2. they looked super large on the scan unlike the normal but I think now that was an optical illusion caused by the coincident black spots of the cancel hitting and obscuring some of the teeth. Perhaps not as peculiarly interesting as I thought at first
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 11, 2019 14:40:10 GMT
I will scan just that stamp this evening when I get home and post. I focused more on the "Repub Franc" below the perf when I looked at it earlier
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 12, 2019 0:31:37 GMT
vikingeck stamp in question is normal perf- dots from cancellation give it th eodd illusion I have serached on the web and found some mention of the French postmarks, but no numerical references (this appears to be what is referred to as gros chifres) this could be 3581 or maybe 1581? and it is stuck to the page (that is not "on piece" ) 
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Post by greaden on Jun 12, 2019 12:41:51 GMT
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 12, 2019 13:30:37 GMT
Thank you greaden ! Is the Bureau specific to the date stamp of each Department? meaning if I had the envelope that the stamp i w/ 3581 for saint-E'tienne the date stamp would always be 64 (Loire?) |
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Post by greaden on Jun 12, 2019 13:49:50 GMT
I am not sure what you are asking.
The 2-digit numbers are allocated to each department, and are not part of the postal markings.
Large numbers (gros chiffres) were each allocated to a town, and used consistently until about 1862. Afterwards, they were renumbered with smaller figures (petits chiffres).
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 12, 2019 14:53:17 GMT
I was just curious about the 2 digit number- the list only has a few examples (scans) and wondering if the 2 digit code would always be associated with the gros chiffres- I suppose not having the full cover it's somewhat irrelevant
Appreciate the link, as i would have likely never searched in French!!
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Post by greaden on Jun 12, 2019 17:02:36 GMT
The main site for postmarks, which is in French but straightforward enough to decipher, is marcophilie.org/ . The two-digit numbers are still used. French schoolchildren might collect sightings of each of them on license plates. |
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 12, 2019 17:37:32 GMT
even better!!!!!
great information
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