Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 25, 2019 18:22:25 GMT
renden and stainlessb: Sorry, I must have missed it. What does CD stand for? Thanks, Chris
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renden
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Post by renden on Jul 25, 2019 19:17:18 GMT
renden and stainlessb : Sorry, I must have missed it. What does CD stand for? Thanks, Chris I meant papier GC (Maury) which is yellowish and not CD - thanks for raising the question to me and stainlessb - GC means Grande Consommation and Scott describes it differently (I cannot access my e-Scott Classic 2019 cat right now) it has a yellowish aspect but it is a kind of paper used and maybe Xavier could be asked in the discussion hrdoktorx.....more expert than me René |
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Jul 26, 2019 6:22:13 GMT
Papier GC (Grande Consommation) is a grayish low-quality paper that was used instead of the normal paper used for stamps previously because of shortages during the war. I'll try to see if I have some examples I could show to illustrate its differences with the normal paper issues.
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renden
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Post by renden on Jul 26, 2019 12:16:00 GMT
Papier GC (Grande Consommation) is a grayish low-quality paper that was used instead of the normal paper used for stamps previously because of shortages during the war. I'll try to see if I have some examples I could show to illustrate its differences with the normal paper issues. I knew Xavier would help you, stainlessb and me (and others) for FRANCE René Thanks-Merci ! |
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jul 30, 2019 15:38:50 GMT
stainlessb - I'm a little late to the party due to summer activities. Would still like to say you've got a nice selection of 25c Ceres there - some significant shades and nice postmarks to. Nothing is mentioned in my Maury either about yellowish paper for neither of the 3 types, so probably Ceres is due for a good bath  GC paper has been suggested - as far as I know this 'cheap' kind of paper was only used around WW1, hence it was not used for any of the classics.
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jul 30, 2019 16:12:21 GMT
hrdoktorx - hope you don't mind me sharing this picture to illustrate the differences:  It is worth mentioning that GC paper is not always yellowish, it can be brownish, greyish and sometimes more or less white to. The key to identify them is the poor quality of the paper, with various contamination mixed into the paper-pulp.
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renden
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Post by renden on Jul 30, 2019 16:35:41 GMT
Here are my Maury 120 and 121 and with GC paper - excuse the black straks on one stamp - done by my seperation - stamp is OK live René NORMAL Maury 120 + 121   Maury GC paper 120 -g GC and 121 -I GC...sscan does not do justice to this GC 1fr   |
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renden
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Post by renden on Jul 30, 2019 22:58:44 GMT
Thanks Steve tomiseksj for the thread - most appropriate René |
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Jul 31, 2019 6:43:07 GMT
Certainly justified to make a new thread, the topic of GC paper had no relevance in the Ceres thread. Thanks!
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 21, 2024 21:09:26 GMT
I am posting here instead of starting a new thread.
Papier mince (transparent) is how it is listed in Maury, Storch & Francon omit (transparent), and Y&T doesn't even mention it...
Can someone post some examples of this paper? There seems a variety of papers used, some a fairly easy to tell apart, but on many of the stamps, especially is a dark color, one can make out the basic outline of figures on the stamp, thus 'tanspaernet' doesn't seem to be an ideal decriptor.
Or is just simply 'thin"?
PS- it is listed on a number of different issues
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renden
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Post by renden on Feb 21, 2024 21:39:31 GMT
I am posting here instead of starting a new thread. Papier mince (transparent) is how it is listed in Maury, Storch & Francon omit (transparent), and Y&T doesn't even mention it... Can someone post some examples of this paper? There seems a variety of papers used, some a fairly easy to tell apart, but on many of the stamps, especially is a dark color, one can make out the basic outline of figures on the stamp, thus 'tanspaernet' doesn't seem to be an ideal decriptor. I have to have the stamp in hand........this not for an old newbie  René |
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