dorincard
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What I collect: My focus is on Wild Mammals on maximum cards. Occasionally, I get or create maximum cards with other animals, or any other topic.
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Post by dorincard on Nov 22, 2021 18:37:03 GMT
Trains, a lovely topic! What if you want to create a cover, or a postcard with the image of a "train stamp" or "train cover"? Let's say you want to do this "for commercial use". What are you allowed to do, and what not, given the copyright status for the stamps images from all countries? Here's a postcard designed with images of train stamps from some countries (not USA). Does it matter if the stamps are postmarked or not? www.zazzle.com/z/5dgs0cj4?rf=238693463283865848
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Post by stamphinger on Dec 1, 2021 23:16:17 GMT
The Panama Limited was a long-running train, from 1911 to 1971 when AmTrac took over the run. It was the Illinois Central Railroad's premier passenger train, a night train with all Pullman cars and was one of the last two all-Pullman trains in the U.S. The City of New Orleans was the day time counterpart, all coaches. Panama Limited was noted for its gourmet dining service and extra comfort. The train was named for the opening of the Panama Canal and the cover is appropriately franked with U.S. Sc. 858, the 3 cents stamp commemorating the 25th anniversary of the opening of the canal. It took 16 hours and 30 minutes to complete its run. This cover commemorates the first run as a diesel powered streamliner. The cover included an insert illustrating floor plans of the cars and its schedule. Don StampHinger
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Post by stamphinger on Jan 15, 2022 23:27:47 GMT
A cover commemorating the conversion of the Great Northern Railroads flagship passenger train Empire Builder to a diesel-powered streamliner, and the inauguration of its route companion Western Star.
Great Northern RR began Empire Builder in 1929 and it continues in service under Amtrak today. It ran over 2,200 miles between Chicago and Seattle with a division at Spokane, WA that went to Portland, Oregon. The run took a little over 45 hours one-way. Empire Builder was one of the most popular long-distance trains in America and maintained exceptionally high ridership Its companion train Western Star began June 3, 1951, it ran the same route with added stops in North Dakota and Montana, thus taking 58 hours to make the trip one-way compared to 45 hours for Empire Builder. Amtrak did not continue Western Star when it took over passenger rail service in 1971
The second cover commemorates one year of operation of The Little Nancy passenger train that ran on the Central of Georgia Railroad. The Little Nancy was a connecting train from Augusta that met the Nancy Hanks II at Millen for connections to Savannah, Macon or Atlanta. I have not been able to find its starting and ending dates, but they must have paralleled the Nancy Hanks II (1947 - 1971). Like Nancy Hanks II, The Little Nancy was a segregated train with separate cars for blacks and whites until the Civil Rights Act of 1964
Don StampHinger
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Post by stamphinger on Jan 28, 2022 22:27:16 GMT
Two more named trains covers: The first commemorates the first trip of The Florida Special on December 16, 1949. The Florida Special was a seasonal train that ran between New York City and Miami, during the winter months. It dates back to 1888 and had an unusual long run of 84 years before being taken over by Amtrak. It was a luxury train, no coaches, all sleeper cars plus dinner and lounge cars. Service was suspended during WW II years, but restarted in December of 1946.
The second, a 1954 post card depicting the California Zephyr crossing the Feather River, is a "half-a-loaf" acquisition as I have been consistently outbid in my attempt to get a 1949 first-trip cover. The California Zephyr was another luxury train operated by the Chicago, Burlington, and Quincy Railroad between Chicago and San Francisco (actually Oakland, California) between 1949 and 1970. It was especially known for its exceptionally scenic route and its enroute attendants known as Zephyrettes, akin to airline stewardesses. The route was 2,438 miles which the train completed in 39 1/2 hours. The California Zephyr crossing the Feather River
Zephryette at work on the California Zephyr (Internet photo)
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Philatarium
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What I collect: Primarily focused on Japan, but lots of other material catches my eye as well ...
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Post by Philatarium on Jan 29, 2022 18:02:39 GMT
stamphinger, This is always such an interesting thread! Thank you for posting. I enjoy each of your entries!
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Post by stamphinger on Jan 29, 2022 18:14:27 GMT
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Post by stamphinger on Feb 27, 2022 18:16:45 GMT
Below are two almost identical covers commemorating the twenty-fifth anniversary, (1930 - 1955) of The Yankee Clipper, a named passenger train operating on the New York, New Haven, & Hartford Railroad between New York City and Boston. I have posted two covers because, as the cachet and accompanying information card indicate, these trains were peculiar in that they departed their respective terminals at the same hour each day. Thus, there were two trains of the same name enroute at the same times daily going in opposite directions. The top cover was posted in New York City, the bottom one at the other terminal in Boston. The Yankee Clipper, launched in the dark days of the Great Depression (March 1930), had a perilous financial beginning and had to reduce the number of its passenger cars in the mid-1930s, but it made it through the depression. It was strictly a day train, but an upscale one that included a dinning car, lounge/observation cars and parlor cars instead of coaches. The train continued daily service until 1968 when the New Haven Railroad merged with the Pennsylvania Railroad.
Don StampHinger The New York City - Boston posting The Boston New York City posting The information card
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Post by stamphinger on Apr 6, 2022 22:01:10 GMT
I'm catching up on my Named Trains collection.
The first is a cover originally commemorating the first trip, March 31, 1941 of The Southerner as a streamlined train on the Washington D.C. to New Orleans route. This usage, however, is much later on November 12, 1946 and most likely was a personal mailing to the addressee using a left-over envelope. The cover was sent by Scott Nixon of Augusta Georgia, an avid collector of train covers and posted at the Railway Mail Service Transfer Office in Augusta.
The Southerner was a two-part train, the first, or northernmost part was operated between New York City and Washington D.C. by the Pennsylvania Railroad and from Washington, D.C. to New Orleans by the Southern Railway System. There were no sleeper cars on this train, all coach cars with a dining/bar/observation car. Its route going through the southern states as it did, The Southerner was a segregated train. It remained in service until 1970 when it was merged with a sister train The Crescent and renamed The Southern Crescent.
The second cover commemorates the first westward trip of the then newly "refitted" Broadway Limited as a streamliner, the Pennsylvania Railroad's premier train that competed with the New York Central Railroad's 20th Century Limited. The completion was so close between these two trains that both railroads scheduled this first trip of their new streamlined engine and cars on the same day. The Broadway in the name of this train did not refer to the street in New York City, but rather the "broad way" four-track rail route of the Pennsylvania Railroad between NYC and Chicago.
Speed and comfort were the watch words of this train. The time it took to travel from NYC to Chicago (908 miles) was reduced to 18 hours in 1932 and that cut further to 16 hours, 30 minutes by 1936. There were no coach cars on this train, it was an all sleeping car train, indeed, the last such train in the U.S. The Broadway Limited remained in service until the takeover by Amtrac in 1971.
The shape of the cachet on this cover replicates the logo of the Pennsylvania Railroad.
A handsome Art Deco poster advertising the Broadway Limited (internet photo)
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gbcc
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What I collect: GB First day covers, event covers and postmarks, GB Slogans
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Post by gbcc on May 15, 2022 19:21:37 GMT
1970_Bluebell Railway 10th Anniversary Uckfield Sussex. A GB Event Cover with special handstamp for the Tenth Anniversary. I am aware of two variations of this cover with and without the Sheffield Park Uckfield cachet. (See both images below.) The Bluebell Railway is an 11 mi (17.7 km) heritage line almost entirely in West Sussex in England, with a small part in East Sussex which is Sheffield Park It is managed by the Bluebell Railway Preservation Society.The society ran its first train on 7 August 1960. It uses steam trains which operate between Sheffield Park and East Grinstead, with intermediate stations at Horsted Keynes and Kingscote. The railway is managed and run largely by volunteers. Having preserved a number of steam locomotives even before steam stopped running on British mainline railways in 1968, today it has over 30 steam locomotives, the 2nd largest collection in the UK after the National Railway Museum.The Bluebell also has almost 150 carriages and wagons, most of them pre-1939. The above info ack. to Wikipedia. Geoff (GBCC) www.gbcovercollector.co.uk
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gbcc
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Post by gbcc on May 16, 2022 18:51:08 GMT
1/05/2022_150th Anniversary of the South Devon Railway 150 Buckfastleigh. Cover produced by Buckingham Covers who are also under the banner of Internet Stamps Ltd of Folkestone UK See below image of cover and the rear of cover which gives information on the South Devon Railway Geoff (GBCC) www.gbcovercollector.co.uk
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cursus
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What I collect: Catalan Cinderellas. Used Switzerland, UK, Scandinavia, Germany & Austria. Postal History of Barcelona & Estonia. Catalonia pictorial postmarks.
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Post by cursus on May 18, 2022 11:16:12 GMT
1951, opening of the railway between Lleida and la Pobla de Segur (NW Catalonia)
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Post by stamphinger on May 4, 2023 21:35:06 GMT
It has been quite awhile since I have posted in this thread, but there has been a dearth of "Named Train" covers offered for sale. The Silver Comet is the most recent acquired.
The Seaboard Air Line Railroad operated the Silver Comet. It was the successor to the Cotton States Limited and ran over the same route, New York City to Birmingham, Alabama with stops in Washington, D.C., Richmond, VA, Raleigh, N.C., and Atlanta, GA. The train covered 1,106 miles in 23 hours. The train was made up of day coaches, Pullman sleepers, a dining car and an observation car. It was in service from May 18, 1947 until October 14, 1969. This cover was postmarked May 19, 1947, so if actually carried on the Comet, it would have been the first return northbound trip from Birmingham to NYC. The cachet was printed, perhaps appropriately, with a silver based ink that gives a somewhat grey look.
Don Stamphinger
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Post by smauggie on May 4, 2023 22:26:33 GMT
Mailomat meter with train slogan.
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Post by stamphinger on May 5, 2023 17:31:30 GMT
Here is an early, non-philatelic named train cover This somewhat diminutive envelope is a piece of stationery most likely given away to passengers for enroute correspondence. The California Limited was an all-Pullman sleeper train running from Chicago to Los Angeles. It began in 1892 and remained in service until 1954. It was discontinued because it was competing against its sister train, the Santa Fe Chief. The California Limited ceased being a "limited" train in 1938 when the company added day coaches to its consist. The usual consist i.e make-up of the train, included Pullman sleeper cars, day coaches (after 1938), a dining car serving "the best Paul Harvey food on rails," a club/parlor car, and an observation car.
Don Stamphinger
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renden
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Post by renden on May 5, 2023 19:12:56 GMT
Here is an early, non-philatelic named train cover This somewhat diminutive envelope is a piece of stationery most likely given away to passengers for enroute correspondence. The California Limited was an all-Pullman sleeper train running from Chicago to Los Angeles. It began in 1892 and remained in service until 1954. It was discontinued because it was competing against its sister train, the Santa Fe Chief. The California Limited ceased being a "limited" train in 1938 when the company added day coaches to its consist. The usual consist i.e make-up of the train, included Pullman sleeper cars, day coaches (after 1938), a dining car serving "the best Paul Harvey food on rails," a club/parlor car, and an observation car.
Don Stamphinger Very nice, Don Would you remind e (short memory or I have not really checked) he difference between Philatelic vs non philatelic covers ? Thanks a lot - I feel a bit "dumb" right now René
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Post by stamphinger on May 5, 2023 21:47:39 GMT
renden
Labeling a cover philatelic or non-philatelic is a judgment based on the appearance of the item in question. Most collectors would agree that the Silver Comet cover is strictly philatelic in origin and purpose and that the California Limited cover is non-philatelic in purpose and intended solely to convey a written message.
A philatelic cover is one created to be collected by stamp/cover collectors. The Silver Comet cover commemorating the train's first run was intended for collectors. Philatelic covers almost always have a cachet identifying the person, thing, place, or event commemorated and are usually franked with commemorative postage. The California Limited is a non-philatelic cover in that it was created and used solely to convey a written/printed message/information to someone. Franking on these covers is usually a stamp(s) from a definitive set, but not always. Commemorative postage may also appear on non-philatelic mail. Non-philatelic covers generally use uncacheted envelopes. It is conceivable that either or both the sender and addressee of the California Limited cover may have been collectors, but there is no visible evidence that this envelope had any philatelic motive in its creation or mailing. The non-philatelic cover in this case is train-related because of its identification in the upper left side of the envelope, i.e. California Limited and the logo of the Santa Fe Railroad. Without that advertising identification it would not be collectable for my named-train collection. Railway Post Office collectors, however, might find it collectable for its cancel.
Don
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Post by stamphinger on Aug 27, 2023 18:35:44 GMT
A continuing dearth of new "Named Train" covers has kept me from posting on this thread, but I found these two post cards of Burlington's Zephyr trains and decided to add them to my collection.
The first is of the Twin Zephyrs or Twin City Zephyrs that ran between Chicago and St. Paul/Minneapolis from 1935 to 1971. There were two trains in service on this route, They left Chicago and Minneapolis at 6am each morning and completed a round trip by 10:59 pm. The trains were made up of coach cars, a parlor car, dining car and an observation car. These trains were also known as "The Train of the Gods" and "Train of the Goddesses" with the cars being named after Roman gods and goddesses. The second card depicts the Nebraska Zephyr that ran between Chicago and Lincoln, Nebraska, via Omaha. It continued in service between 1947 and 1971. The train set of the Nebraska Zephyr was the original that ran on the Twin Zephyrs route, i.e. The Train of the Gods and The Train of the Goddesses. The 551 miles trip between Chicago and Lincoln took 9 hours and 45 minutes Don StampHinger
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Post by jamesw on Aug 28, 2023 1:26:01 GMT
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Post by stamphinger on Dec 5, 2023 17:08:48 GMT
A couple of named train covers. The first a photo post card showing the Atlantic Coast Line's Florida Special at the station in St. Petersburg, Florida. The Special was a seasonal train that ran between New York City and St. Petersburg. It was an all sleeper train, no coaches. A long-running train, 1888-1972, except for a hiatus during the WW II years. The second cover has a large label on the front and appears to commemorate the Union Pacific RR's City of Los Angeles. However, there is also a handstamped cachet of the Los Angeles Union Pacific RR station on the reverse and that is what the cover actually commemorates. The station, often referred to as "the last of the great train stations," officially opened on May 3, 1939, the date of posting for this cover. The City of Los Angeles which ran between Chicago and Los Angeles had begun three years earlier on May 15, 1936. The label/cachet looks like a baggage label and may have served that purpose as well.
Don StampHinger
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