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Post by michael on Oct 7, 2022 17:59:43 GMT
Alex ( vikingeck ) wrote: I will follow up with Hugh Jefferies on this. Based on his comments during the webinar, it sounded like he will be more apt to do something if a volunteer would be available to do the research or provide info for him to implement an editorial change. When I asked about the difference between the GB and Cape of Good Hope listings, Hugh mentioned that there are listings for other stamps on blued paper in SG that should also be changed from differentiating between deeply and slightly blued paper to the all-encompassing "paper more or less blued". I imagine, therefore, that if I was willing to go through the SG Catalogue carefully and identify all of the listings that would need to be changed, then it would be more likely to happen. I will contact Hugh again by email and ask him if this is what he would need done in order to make the change happen. michael : Is this anything that you have already researched based on your interest in PB printings?
No I haven't researched or have much interest in blued paper, I have far too many other PB research areas to investigate.
However, I'm looking forward to reading your COGH article as I'm still confused on how it occurred in the first place, contaminated ink or the wash that dampened the paper prior to printing. For me, it's like shades unless you fully understand it you are relying on a 3rd party to tell you what it is. The cynic I am will put a stamp in the sun for a few weeks to change it's shade and a stamp in a solution of Potassium Prussate if I want it blued.....
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 8, 2022 7:29:18 GMT
Thanks for your post, michael . No worries on the timing. I just wondered if this was anything you had looked into in the course of your PB investigations, and now I have my answer. Thanks for that. As to the cause of the bluing, I think that Stevenson has actually pretty well covered that. Here's what he wrote: What we can gather from this, I think, is that the bluing was due to a reaction between constituents in the ink and the paper, and that the intensity of the bluing depended on how wet the paper was at the time of printing. Just a couple of minor points about this excerpt: Stevenson's use of the term potassium prussiate is probably not technically correct. From what I have read, it would more likely have been prussiate of potash that was used in the ink. Potassium prussiate and prussiate of potash have similar chemical formulas, but they are not quite the same thing. One is a derivative of the other, in fact. This is something else that I came across in doing research for my article; I was not the one who discovered it. Since then, I went to one of my siblings, who has a PhD in organic chemistry, and she has confirmed that it should be prussiate of potash that was the constituent. All of that said, my article does not delve into this aspect of how the bluing was caused. It mainly tries to make the case for why it would make much more sense to classify Cape Triangles on either "paper more or less blued" or "non-blued paper", as opposed to according major catalogue numbers to examples on deeply or slightly blued paper (SG terms).
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Post by michael on Oct 8, 2022 13:05:27 GMT
Thanks Chris Beryllium Guy . A search of the London Philatelist index reveals many articles where blued paper is mentioned, mostly with GB stamps but the findings would also apply to the Colonies stamps as they all used similar inks. A good one to read is the one by Don Madden entitled "Great Britain : Progressive blueing of One Penny Reds" in the May 1998 edition of the London Philatelist (the journal of the RPSL). I'll email it to you Chris. Perkins Bacon always had a problem with fugitive inks compared to De La Rue. It is nicely summed up why there are conflicting articles on how the blueing was caused: Also of interest is that some of the early GB imprimatur sheets showed no sign of blueing until at least 44 years after being printed. Plate 24 as an example was described as very slightly blued in 1899, slightly blued in 1962 and blued in 1995!! I guess if you wait long enough slightly blued COGH triangles might eventually become heavily blued
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 8, 2022 20:41:53 GMT
Many thanks for your follow-up post, michael. I have received the email and downloaded the file, which looks like a good read. My real interest in bluing is perhaps a superficial one, as the main point for me was to be able to identify it correctly. I have made some progress in that regard from where I started, and I am happy to expand my knowledge base when I can. Thanks again for sharing this article with me!
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 12, 2022 6:46:48 GMT
Cape of Good Hope: Article on DLR 4d Triangles Now PublishedGreetings, all: I am starting this as a new thread with very specific title, but after a few days, I will merge this into the "Research" thread. I am pleased to announce my article titled Cape of Good Hope Triangles: The 4-Pence Blue De La Rue Issues, 1863-1864, has now been published in the CAPE & NATAL PHILATELIC JOURNAL (CNPJ), Volume 26 Number 3 (whole number 103) September 2022. This edition of the CNPJ may be found online here: www.capenatalstamps.com/loginFor any who cannot access the Journal online, please feel free to send me a PM with your email address, and I will email you a copy of the Journal. I also have PDF versions of just my article, which I am also happy to send to anyone who is interested. Thanks again to all members who helped make this article a reality, in ways both large and small. All who gave their permission have been mentioned by name near the end of the article. I am interested to see what sort of reaction the article gets from other collectors and dealers. Stay stampy, all!
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Post by JeffS on Oct 12, 2022 10:49:43 GMT
Hey, Chris. I’ve finished a first read on my iPad over a cup of coffee. What an enlightening and pleasure able read, not only for the information and images, but also the style of your writing. This should become an invaluable tool for collectors of these. I look forward to several more reads but first I need to download it on my pad and desktop. Thank you for the effort you put into this and for sharing your knowledge so graciously both in your article as well on the Forum.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 12, 2022 21:15:43 GMT
Many thanks for your kind comments, JeffS.... they are much appreciated! We shall see if all who read this article will feel the same. I have written some potentially inflammatory things, for example, as it has long been held that the greenish-tinted DLR prints are the SG19c Steel Blue and sometimes the SG19b Slate Blue, too. Personally, I think that the SG-supplied images of what these should look like make much more sense, but I feel certain that some blowback will come. Anyway, I really appreciate your very supportive post, which made my day!
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Post by zipper on Oct 13, 2022 1:09:25 GMT
Congratulations, dude!
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Post by renden on Oct 13, 2022 18:45:53 GMT
Chris, Bravo ! I plan to read when I receive the CAPE & NATAL PHILATELIC JOURNAL (CNPJ) password
René
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 15, 2022 11:43:22 GMT
Many thanks to zipper and René ( renden) for your kind wishes! I appreciate your support very much.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 15, 2023 17:19:59 GMT
Article on Cape Triangle Woodblock ForgeriesFirst off, I would like to thank Jim ( jkjblue) for alerting me to this article, which is in the May-2023 issue of The American Philatelist. It is written by Richard Debney, noted Cape Triangle expert and exhibitor. For those of you who are members of the APS, you can access the issue here: stamps.org/the-american-philatelistHere is what I think that the reference would look like: The "Expertizing Alterations" feature is written in three parts by three different authors. In addition to the Debney portion about Great Britain & British Commonwealth, there are also articles about US & Italian stamps. If anyone would like to read this article but cannot access it, please send me a PM, and I will help you get a copy. I am always on the lookout for new information and references on Cape Triangles, so if any members spot new publications, please post about them here. Stay stampy, all!
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