peter
Member
Posts: 315
What I collect: Australian Slogan Cancels
|
Post by peter on Nov 10, 2023 3:18:43 GMT
Australia's Bilingual Trade Promotion Slogans (1959~) AUSTRALIA LAND OF SUNSHINE / AUSTRALIE PAYS DU SOLEIL The AUSTRALIA LAND OF SUNSHINE slogan was first seen on 20 July 1959, and supposedly used until September 1967. However, I have November 1967 examples in my collection. There are again, two basic types: Left Justified text Centralized text On Melbourne cancellations in the period 1962-67, you will sometimes see a "B" in the date slug. Occleshaw explains this marked mail that was dropped into the interstate and overseas slot in large city posting boxes. The slot used a blue background, and the mail fell into a blue-coloured bag inside.
|
|
peter
Member
Posts: 315
What I collect: Australian Slogan Cancels
|
Post by peter on Nov 10, 2023 3:59:15 GMT
Australia's Bilingual Trade Promotion Slogans (1959~)
AUSTRALIA PRODUCES EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN / PRODUITS DU SOLEIL PRODUITS AUSTRALIENS The AUSTRALIA PRODUCES EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN slogan was first seen on 14 July 1959, and used until 1976. As per the other slogans in this series, here are the two basic types: Left Justified text (4 lines)
Centralised text (5 lines)
Occleshaw states this variety was first seen in July 1966. However, this example shows that it was used from at least March 1966. I've shown exclusively Melbourne examples until now, however the slogans were used in other states. This slogan was also used in Brisbane, Hobart and Sydney.
|
|
peter
Member
Posts: 315
What I collect: Australian Slogan Cancels
|
Post by peter on Nov 10, 2023 4:07:01 GMT
Australia's Bilingual Trade Promotion Slogans (1959~) AUSTRALIAN FOOD PRODUCES CHAMPIONS / ALIMENTS AUSTRALIENS NOURRITURE DE CHAMPIONS
The AUSTRALIAN FOOD PRODUCES CHAMPIONS slogan was first seen on 27 July 1959, and used until 1971. As per the other slogans in this series, here are the two basic types: Left Justified text
Centralised text
|
|
peter
Member
Posts: 315
What I collect: Australian Slogan Cancels
|
Post by peter on Nov 18, 2023 5:32:45 GMT
In the 1960s, Melbourne's larger postboxes had colour-coded slots according to destination: 🟡 Yellow: Suburban & Country 🟢 Green: City 🔵 Blue: Interstate & Overseas
Falling into matching coloured bags, the mail was delivered to Melbourne GPO where they were processed through postmarking machines bearing date slugs coded according to the colour - Y, G, B. Used between 1962 and 1967.
|
|
peter
Member
Posts: 315
What I collect: Australian Slogan Cancels
|
Post by peter on Nov 27, 2023 5:44:54 GMT
It's November 27, so here is a November 27, 1939 usage of the Star of Bethlehem POST NOW FOR CHRISTMAS slogan, together with a November 27 usage of the slogan it replaced, both from the Melbourne GPO. This is the earliest date of usage I have found for this slogan, which replaced the version featuring the face of Santa Claus. The Santa type, introduced in December 1932, was discontinued after the Postmaster-General's Department received several public complaints regarding the "grotesque" nature of some of the Santa images being imprinted. After a thorough investigation, the PMG agreed, and after the new design was produced, relevant post offices were requested to destroy certain dies that were found to be particularly objectionable. Meanwhile, the offices could continue to use the remaining dies alongside the Star type until they wore out and were no longer serviceable, which some did well into the 1960s.
|
|
rod222
Member
Posts: 9,910
What I collect: Worldwide Stamps, Ephemera and Catalogues
|
Post by rod222 on Nov 27, 2023 10:39:05 GMT
It's November 27, so here is a November 27, 1939 usage of the Star of Bethlehem POST NOW FOR CHRISTMAS slogan, together with a November 27 usage of the slogan it replaced, both from the Melbourne GPO. This is the earliest date of usage I have found for this slogan, which replaced the version featuring the face of Santa Claus. The Santa type, introduced in December 1932, was discontinued after the Postmaster-General's Department received several public complaints regarding the "grotesque" nature of some of the Santa images being imprinted. After a thorough investigation, the PMG agreed, and after the new design was produced, relevant post offices were requested to destroy certain dies that were found to be particularly objectionable. Meanwhile, the offices could continue to use the remaining dies alongside the Star type until they wore out and were no longer serviceable, which some did well into the 1960s. Western Australia (Whittaker)
|
|
JeffS
Member
Posts: 2,607
What I collect: Oranges Philately, US Slogan Cancels, Cape of Good Hope Triangulars, and Texas poster stamps and cinderellas
|
Post by JeffS on Nov 28, 2023 18:02:45 GMT
Postmarked MOONEE PONDS, 15 Sep 1965 (which Mr. Wiki tells me is an inner-city suburb of Melbourne: PLEASE POST EARLY BEFORE LUNCH & BEFORE FOUR O'CLOCK
Also use from Balmain, a Sydney suburb.
|
|
rod222
Member
Posts: 9,910
What I collect: Worldwide Stamps, Ephemera and Catalogues
|
Post by rod222 on Nov 28, 2023 22:55:54 GMT
Postmarked MOONEY PONDS, 15 Sep 1965 (which Mr. Wiki tells me is an inner-city suburb of Melbourne: MOONEY PONDS ...famous in Australia, the birthplace of our Dame Edna Everage.
|
|
peter
Member
Posts: 315
What I collect: Australian Slogan Cancels
|
Post by peter on Nov 28, 2023 23:56:29 GMT
PLEASE POST EARLY BEFORE LUNCH & BEFORE FOUR O'CLOCK
JeffS , This was a long-lived slogan, introduced in 1937 and used until the early 1980s. After the introduction of serial numbers to identify slogans in the 1920s, this was number 3. Due to the length and spread of use, you could fly spot a thousand variations, but I tend to break them down into three main types. Three lines left justified:
Three lines centered: Occleshaw describes this as center line indented.
Five lines centered:
|
|
peter
Member
Posts: 315
What I collect: Australian Slogan Cancels
|
Post by peter on Dec 13, 2023 1:49:16 GMT
While Australia's GPOs followed a set schedule for slogan usage on the postmarking machines, this was not the case with smaller branches, who were provided with a limited number of die options. On this day, 13 December, in 1966, we can see that the GPOs were scheduled to use the slogan CHRISTMAS GREETINGS FROM THE AUSTRALIAN POST OFFICE (introduced Dec 1961) which was only issued to the GPOs and some other main branches. Smaller branches used PLEASE POST CHRISTMAS MAIL THIS WEEK (introduced Dec 1936). The PLEASE POST CHRISTMAS MAIL THIS WEEK slogan was used at GPOs as well, not just at smaller branches. From my collection, the general order of usage of Christmas slogans at the GPOs in this period were: First week of December: POST NOW FOR CHRISTMAS Second week of December: PLEASE POST CHRISTMAS MAIL THIS WEEK Third and forth week of December: CHRISTMAS GREETINGS FROM THE AUSTRALIAN POST OFFICE Here are the 13 December 1966 examples...
|
|
rod222
Member
Posts: 9,910
What I collect: Worldwide Stamps, Ephemera and Catalogues
|
Post by rod222 on Dec 16, 2023 3:40:09 GMT
While Australia's GPOs followed a set schedule for slogan usage on the postmarking machines, this was not the case with smaller branches, who were provided with a limited number of die options. On this day, 13 December, in 1966, we can see that the GPOs were scheduled to use the slogan CHRISTMAS GREETINGS FROM THE AUSTRALIAN POST OFFICE (introduced Dec 1961) which was only issued to the GPOs and some other main branches. Smaller branches used PLEASE POST CHRISTMAS MAIL THIS WEEK (introduced Dec 1936). The PLEASE POST CHRISTMAS MAIL THIS WEEK slogan was used at GPOs as well, not just at smaller branches. From my collection, the general order of usage of Christmas slogans at the GPOs in this period were: First week of December: POST NOW FOR CHRISTMAS Second week of December: PLEASE POST CHRISTMAS MAIL THIS WEEK Third and forth week of December: CHRISTMAS GREETINGS FROM THE AUSTRALIAN POST OFFICE Here are the 13 December 1966 examples... peterWallen Page 67
|
|
rod222
Member
Posts: 9,910
What I collect: Worldwide Stamps, Ephemera and Catalogues
|
Post by rod222 on Dec 16, 2023 8:22:14 GMT
peterCannot find your post with slogan " with rare PAID " text.
I cannot find any instances in D.S Wallen.
If you can find your post, can you link it here please?
|
|
rod222
Member
Posts: 9,910
What I collect: Worldwide Stamps, Ephemera and Catalogues
|
Post by rod222 on Dec 16, 2023 12:24:45 GMT
peterThanks. I have come to the conclusion, the cover is actually a "Meter Slogan", not a wide use Machine Slogan. eg: the Metro Water board, sent out mail "Paid" using an in house meter machine, and the monthly? expenditure, debited to the water board. Hence the scarcity, most covers binned at opening. Not in Wallen Most slogan catalogues do not offer the boxed date information part.
|
|
rod222
Member
Posts: 9,910
What I collect: Worldwide Stamps, Ephemera and Catalogues
|
Post by rod222 on Dec 17, 2023 3:54:48 GMT
peter Still not clear, as to what we are attempting to establish.
Basically, what I am suggesting, is the PAID meter impression on the OHMS cover is simply the device to record the value of Postage accrued to a meter lessee.
The slogan has nothing to do, apart from illustrating propaganda
-------------------------
The CDS Santa (Machine slogan) has a dual purpose, in verifying the cover receival date, and cancelling an attached adhesive tax stamp, via the slogan.
----------------------------------------------
Ergo, the "accrued impost" of the OHMS cover (PAID box) would thereby be scarcer than the CDS Santa Slogan.
Am I misled somehow in my reasoning? I am having trouble explaining why the Paid box should be scarce.
I bow to your greater knowledge in this discipline, I am only a newbie here.
A meter slogan, differs from a machine slogan, the die may be identical, but employed in differing machines How the dies were installed in either machine is beyond my knowledge (Pitney Bowes?)
The meter slogan, is the only device to record the impost value, in the slogan cancel design.
|
|
peter
Member
Posts: 315
What I collect: Australian Slogan Cancels
|
Post by peter on Dec 17, 2023 4:13:03 GMT
I would never presume to claim superior knowledge in this area, and deleted my reply as being pointless as I may have misunderstood your point. You have given me much food for thought. I thank you.
|
|
rod222
Member
Posts: 9,910
What I collect: Worldwide Stamps, Ephemera and Catalogues
|
Post by rod222 on Dec 17, 2023 5:48:49 GMT
I would never presume to claim superior knowledge in this area, and deleted my reply as being pointless as I may have misunderstood your point. You have given me much food for thought. I thank you. It's nice to engage in the thrust and parry of a good investigation, in a respectful manner. Working through ignorance of a particular philatelic subject, towards (hopefully) a meaningful destination, is what make our hobby so enjoyable.
Generally, monographs or catalogues, can answer many of these puzzlers, other times, the infomation lies in those who pursue the minutiae, in quiet stamp dens at home, and hidden from the rest of us.
I was particularly taken by the preamble to the "Australian Postmarks and slogans" by D.S.Wallen OBE
During the preparation of the catalogue, 4th November 1981 Mr. Wallen passed away. Mrs Muriel Wallen and her son Tony, were not prepared to see so much effort go to waste, so they took on the tremendous task of finishing the Monograph themselves. How brave !
Book Number # 205
|
|
peter
Member
Posts: 315
What I collect: Australian Slogan Cancels
|
Post by peter on Dec 23, 2023 4:09:35 GMT
Five of sixteen new short-term slogan cancels added to the collection. The placement of the stamps tells you that these were probably serviced for slogan collectors who didn't want the stamp interfering with the slogan, and indeed the addresses are of known collectors. Never mind though, all of these are exceptionally difficult to source, and I'm thrilled to add them to the collection!
|
|