sudbury12000
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Post by sudbury12000 on Jan 5, 2023 2:25:22 GMT
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khj
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Post by khj on Jan 5, 2023 2:45:58 GMT
There is a footnote in my 2014 Scott Classic catalog that states: "The 6a8p with this overprint was not issued. Value $25."
I didn't check SG, which of course would be the preferred catalog over Scott in this case.
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khj
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Post by khj on Jan 5, 2023 2:50:28 GMT
OK, I just checked my 2020 SG CBE 1840-1970 catalogue, and it states "Prepared for use, but not issued" and lists the stamp as O30b and unused only at £700.
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sudbury12000
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Post by sudbury12000 on Jan 5, 2023 3:11:29 GMT
I like SG better! Anything about a blue(ish) overprint? And thank you, both my Specialized Scott and SG do not mention it.
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 5, 2023 4:24:12 GMT
Thanks for your post, Roy ( sudbury12000 ). Question for you: when you say that your "Scott Specialized" catalogue does not mention this stamp, to which Scott Specialized are you referring? I have one of the very early Scott Classic Specialized Catalogues 1840-1940 from 2000, and the note that Kim ( khj ) describes is in there, and it is still in the 2021 edition, seemingly unchanged. Would you please explain your observation? By the way, in the 2023 Edition of the SG Commonwealth & British Empire Stamps 1840-1970 Catalogue, the value is up to £750 in unused condition. Also, there is no mention of a blue or bluish overprint in either catalogue for your specific stamp. |
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 5, 2023 5:06:30 GMT
OK, Roy ( sudbury12000), below is a relevant excerpt from the 2023 SG Catalogue, with the complete note about your stamp, India SG#O30b. The color of the overprint (SG Type O7) is not specifically mentioned, but one would assume it would be black. Interestingly, the color blue-black is mentioned as a variety of the SG Type O8 overprint, but the dates (1877 and 1882) are well after the 1868 year for your stamp.  |
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sudbury12000
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Post by sudbury12000 on Jan 5, 2023 15:59:42 GMT
Thank you for information. For some reason, must be the colour, I looked up the 1 Rupee. I see the 6A8P in my catalogue. Funny though, Scott's value is so different. I will upload another picture that shows it a little more blue. I suspect this might be a forgery if there is no word on that issue having blue.
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 5, 2023 16:20:17 GMT
Just an observation- i notice the stamp in question lacks the period at the end. There looks like a possible semi-inked one, but it appears too far from the tail of the 'e'
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jan 5, 2023 17:49:32 GMT
Roy ( sudbury12000), many thanks for adding the new image to the first post. Seeing the stamp in question side by side with another overprint makes a comparison possible. I think that Stan ( stainlessb) makes a good point. On the 6a8p stamp, look closely at the "e" and the "r" of that overprint, and then look at the one below it, on the 8a stamp. The shapes of the letters are not the same, at least to my eye. I looked online, but I couldn't find any reference for forgeries of this overprint on your stamp, but with an SG value of £750 compared to the same stamp without the overprint at £35, it seems like a prime candidate for a little jiggery-pokery, as they say. I have no expertise in this area at all, but I am suspicious about the genuineness of the overprint on your 6a8p stamp. I have a very hard time understanding how SG could list this stamp at a CV of £750 while Scott has it at $25. That doesn't make much sense to me. Typically, the two catalogues are in closer alignment for values. This is one of the more extreme cases I have seen. It is an interesting stamp in any case, whether genuine or not. Thanks for posting!  |
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Mr. H
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Post by Mr. H on Jan 5, 2023 18:09:53 GMT
Also look at the e on your overprint. On the two examples below yours the bar from the e is much lower in relation to the c than on the 6A8p.
Sorry, I got interrupted in the middle of my message and didn't see that the problem with the e was already addressed.
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