hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Mar 15, 2023 18:33:00 GMT
The Edward VII stamps do not seem to get much attention but I have always liked them, especially the two tone ones. They were notorious for fading but mint ones have wonderful rich colours. My small selection has the smooth and chalky printings mixed together on my old school quad-ruled page. I have been too busy on other areas to try adding anymore to my Great Britain collection.
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Post by forth on Mar 16, 2023 13:41:12 GMT
I remember a dealer suggesting to collect GB overprinted Edward V11 mint to get an idea of shades. Idea was they were cheaper and less to start with. Another dealer told me not to worry about shades, obviously not the faded/ washed out ones, as in some cases it was a waste of time. He said he had seen blocks where the stamps had different shade at top compared to bottom. To me one of each value is all I bother about.
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drblade
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Post by drblade on Mar 18, 2023 6:55:57 GMT
The Edward VII stamps do not seem to get much attention but I have always liked them, especially the two tone ones. They were notorious for fading but mint ones have wonderful rich colours. My small selection has the smooth and chalky printings mixed together on my old school quad-ruled page. I have been too busy on other areas to try adding anymore to my Great Britain collection. You have a nice selection of Edward VII, I particularly like the 2nd 5d & the 2/6d & 5/- in the scan. I've been looking to purchase the 2/6d & 5 shilling for my mint collection although cost of them including shades is high. Shades are many & various but I would like to see them "all" displayed together. I find the shades of these along with George V interesting.
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zipper
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Post by zipper on May 5, 2023 23:42:27 GMT
Here's one on cover.
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Post by paul1 on May 6, 2023 7:55:10 GMT
some nice pieces of Ed. VII above - I'm eternally grateful for the fact that this guy was noticeably and substantially bald - makes it quicker and easier to differentiate between him and his son George V, if there isn't a dated cancellation to go by. Launceston is right down in the south west of the U.K., apparently, historically it used to be the ancient capital of Cornwall.
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Post by paul1 on May 6, 2023 17:42:32 GMT
P.S. really no idea if it's true that Ed. VII stamps "do not seem to get much attention" - I only have a few used, though that's probably due to laziness I'm sure, and no idea why these should be especially "notorious for fading". I notice that looking at the page shown by hdm1950 the 4d. orange is absent, so have included an example here - I quite like orange, but don't know that I'm particularly a fan of this group on the whole - they're attractive but perhaps no more or less so than George V or VI - but I am a fan of definitives. The entire range produced in his rather brief tenure as monarch are typical of definitive heads, with the first run being SG 215 - 266 (such is the passion for shades and varieties), with most copying the bi coloured appearance of Victoria's similar definite range, so presumably someone thought the overall colours and designs worth re-issuing, and value wise some are worth a 'king's ransom'. Coming back to the 4d. orange, I'm assuming the image I've added is what SG would call 'pale orange' (their No. 240) - but life is never simple and SG also provide for a 'brown orange' (239) and an 'orange red' (241). The 3d. 'purple/yellow' I've also reproduced - again, SG have gone to town with half a dozen varieties (232 - 234 etc.) - I might have possibly two of them in my attachment. I don't like this yellow and don't like the combination of the yellow and purple - the basic design and colours are, again, simply a straight lift from Victoria's 3d. definitive. Plain pale or lemon yellow seems to have been a popular colour during the late C19 and well into the first third of the C20, for a variety of countries - perhaps more so for the British Commonwealth ? - but IMHO as a colour it doesn't work well - its paleness creates a lack of contrast - often I need the magnifier and light to see detail, and perhaps it suffers more dirt accumulation than many other colours. Having mentioned the popularity of yellow and pale yellow, I notice that after Ed. VII - at least for the home grown British issues, though not for the Commonwealth - this colour/shade seems to have been abandoned. If anyone would like a stab at the yellows I've attached, feel free to guess at shades etc. The far right stamp isn't quite the purple look it seems - I think it's simply a dirty stamp - but if it's a rare variety please do shout.
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hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on May 6, 2023 20:21:11 GMT
paul1 Very observant of the missing 4d orange from my original post. I use Scott numbering so here is a second page of my Edward VII’s based on their catalog.
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Post by paul1 on May 6, 2023 21:00:29 GMT
shouldn't take pix under electric light, but never seem to take my own advice ....... here's a few more of this guy with some overprints - last two are for India as can be seen. Sorry if pix are a tad naff. Hope the Royal Household example is genuine.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 21:08:19 GMT
He looks terribly fierce, doesn't he?
This was a time of great artistic and technological innovation, so I don't understand why so few of the QV "Jubilee" designs were changed. The ½d and 7d show how good a completely new series might have been.
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Post by paul1 on May 7, 2023 7:32:34 GMT
the Ed. VII 7d. 'grey-black' was a completely new denomination and agree with Peadar Ruadh that its appearance looks good, which may suggest at the end of the day we prefer single colour stamps. The Jubilee set of low value heads are a mish-mash of designs - they're not unattractive, but design wise they lack consistency - almost as though a variety of hands were responsible. Perhaps their retention in 1902 was a mark of respect to the late Queen - she had been monarch for along time and unlike yesterday she appears to have been revered 100%. Still, you didn't have to wait long for what are arguably the greatest designs of them all - the Seahorses.
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Post by paul1 on May 9, 2023 10:11:56 GMT
hoping the attached will be accepted for this thread .............. British Post Offices abroad existed in substantial numbers, and included a presence in the Turkish Empire - probably as a direct result of the Crimea conflict - and a date of 1885 shows the beginnings of a variety of a very few low values of British Victoria heads overprinted with currency in Paras and Piastres, a situation that continued into Edward VII reign in 1902. In 1905 the range of these low values was increased to what looks like a total of ten stamps - unfortunately, I'm missing the 4d. - and this group appear to be the first British definitives to include the overprint LEVANT, but at the same time omitting any overprint reference to Paras and Piastres - regret I can't explain the reasons for this part of their history. The use of overprints of LEVANT and currency of Paras and Piastres - in some sort of alternating appearance - occurs well into George Vs reign, including the Seahorses, and looks to have ceased somewhere around 1921. The Levant region apparently got its name from the French lever, which means “to rise" - which apparently was a reference to the sun rising in the east of the Med. - it can be traced even farther back to the Latin levare, which means “lift, raise.” The term “Levant” was first used in English in 1497, referring to “the East,” or “Mediterranean lands east of Italy.” In more modern parlance, the word was/is used to encompass more than just Turkey - and more correctly refers to the eastern end of the shores of the Med., taking in Syria, Lebanon and Israel - my knowledge of geography and history being limited, it may well be that the Turkish Empire included these areas too. Anyway, a few more showing old baldy again.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on May 9, 2023 21:33:28 GMT
Seeing paul1 ‘s Turkish Empire group I thought I should look to see what I had from this region. I had forgotten how many Edward VII’s I had. Here are a few from various departments I have. I especially like a couple of the Admiralty issues.
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hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on May 9, 2023 23:40:01 GMT
There has been discussion before about the 3d with the yellow paper. When I posted my 1911 stamps earlier I forgot to point out an oddity on one of the 2 3d’s. The old Pepsodent tooth paste ad comes to mind….’you’ll wonder where the yellow went when you brush your teeth with Pepsodent’. I suspect some one bleached the stamp on the right. The yellow is gone from the front and back. I am not aware of a variety like this.
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Post by paul1 on May 10, 2023 7:34:54 GMT
some nice pieces there hdm1950 - love that 5s. in particular - and somehow they look possibly better on white than mine do on black. The 'Board of Education' overprints can be pricey, I don't have any yet, and as we've already said the Royal Household likewise in terms of cost. Aside from the overprints already posted on this thread (for Ed. VII), there look to be a couple more ...... 'I.R. OFFICIAL' (for Inland Revenue) and 'O.W. OFFICIAL' (for Office of Works), and assume both must be much less common that most of those showing here. GOVT. PARCELS is possibly the most common of all ovpts.
Agree, your r/h 3d. is a v. unusual shade of something - it may have crossed swords with Domestos - but certainly looks to have been in the presence of some sort of detrimental influence, and looks not a million miles from one of mine. If you read the SG G.B. Specialized catalogue for 'Edward VII to George VI', there look to have been four separate printings for this value between 1902 and 1911, and this colour combination seems to have given problems - the catalogue lists something like eight different colour combinations, plus shades - a nightmare.
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sudbury12000
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Post by sudbury12000 on Jul 18, 2023 17:51:36 GMT
Liking this post a lot! I have mint stamps, but mostly collect used. My album is Gibbons, so tonnes of shades. That is challenging with used stamps, as we all know some were not removed from paper correctly. Other than the post-mark date, is there a way to tell the two early issues apart? For me, it is purely guess work. Thank you all in advance, and I will try and post my EVII's and get your opinions. As I said, I find this era of stamps very interesting.
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Post by sudbury12000 on Jul 18, 2023 18:11:49 GMT
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Post by sudbury12000 on Dec 17, 2023 15:26:24 GMT
These cards came to me from a cousin of mine and are a bit of family history. Miss Ellen Parker is my paternal grandmother. In 1911 she emigrated from Leicester to Winnipeg Manitoba Canada. Her husband had gone the year earlier to set up shop. She was born in 1890, so about 20 years old when she received these, and held on to them for the rest of her life. As the story goes, they had no phones, so for a ha'penny her and her friends could send messages to each other on these historical picture postcards. I, of course, am very attached to these, they reside in my Windsor Album currently.
I do find EVII the most challenging of all British Stamps. The two printings are so similar the only way I can tell used stamps apart is the date cancel. So I am pegging these as SG217. Feel free to correct me.
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Dec 17, 2023 23:35:40 GMT
These cards came to me from a cousin of mine and are a bit of family history. Miss Ellen Parker is my paternal grandmother. In 1911 she emigrated from Leicester to Winnipeg Manitoba Canada. Her husband had gone the year earlier to set up shop. She was born in 1890, so about 20 years old when she received these, and held on to them for the rest of her life. As the story goes, they had no phones, so for a ha'penny her and her friends could send messages to each other on these historical picture postcards. I, of course, am very attached to these, they reside in my Windsor Album currently.
I do find EVII the most challenging of all British Stamps. The two printings are so similar the only way I can tell used stamps apart is the date cancel. So I am pegging these as SG217. Feel free to correct me. sudbury12000
RAPID PHOTO PRINTING COMPANYThere was another, more famous, Rapid Photo Company, addresses, New Broad Street, London EC, 4-5 Bridgewater Square, London EC and Hampton Hill, who were major publishers of real photograph postcards, specialising in photographs of the stars of stage and music hall as well as topographical subjects and animals, children and greetings, Their trade mark was the word "Rapid" with an arrow through the word, direction lower left to upper right, with two swallows or swifts flying right to left. This firm's name sometimes appears as "The Rapid Co", "Rapid Photo", "the Rapid Photo co" or "The Rapid Photo Printing Co", all of London EC. Some of their portrait postcards also bear the name of the photographer or studio from which they originated. There are 97 portraits published by this company in the catalogue of the National Portrait Gallery. This company, founded by a Mr. J. Mengel, operated from around 1901. Mengel left the company in 1905 to form The Kingsbury Works, another major postcard publishing company, in St Albans. The Rapid Photo Printing Co was active in England and Scotland and employed a number of commercial travellers. In 1908 they were advertising a service producing private postcards from your own photograph, suitable for greetings or XMas cards at 7/6d for 50, 10/- for 100. (Era 29 August 1908 p34). By February 1910 (Yorkshire Post 26 Feb 1910 p13) the Rapid Photo Printing Co Ltd was in liquidation, so pre-dates the Rapid Photo Company at Peterborough, but was there any connection between the two ? Was one or more of the Etches brothers travelling for, or involved in some way in the earlier Rapid Photo Co? Did they for some reason, commercial or otherwise, perpetuate the name, transposing it into a smaller affair in Peterborough, or is the similarity in name and products just a co-incidence? link
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