Jerry B
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Post by Jerry B on Jun 12, 2023 6:11:21 GMT
Hi
In my friend's stamp shop these type of stamps did not go into the trash bin. They went into a big box. A lady would come in every so often and buy the stamps. She used them for various projects, mostly jewelry. So, find a crafts person and give them away, or sell them.
Jerry B
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Post by nick2302 on Jul 8, 2023 23:21:06 GMT
I agree that some of the pictures shown in this thread and in really rough condition. But, If even close to being a full stamp I put them in an envelope and donate to the Boy Scouts so they can earn the Stamp collecting badge. The ones that have actual tears or a chuck missing I would toss. But the disabled Vets homes and some nursing homes have some very bored guys as residents. Even not great copies would be something to occupy their hands and minds. Nick
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 10, 2023 19:14:29 GMT
Once again I have to disagree with “ give it to Vets “ or “give it to the Scouts” as an insult….however well meaning . we shouldn’t palm off second or third grade stamps as if we were doing a favour. Duff stamps are duff stamps ! I can’t imagine a crafts person would find a use for it even if I knew of such. Here is a challenge for you to decide. Will I bin or “give to the Scouts” ? 1887 GB Queen Victoria 1/- green printed in fugitive ink. SG 196, It is grubby and has been soaked to get it off paper so much so it has almost faded to nothing. Catalogue value as fine used is £325( almost $450) so quite a scarce stamp, but in this condition value is zero and it would be an embarrassment as a temporary spacefiller.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 10, 2023 19:24:55 GMT
Another less obvious candidate for the trash can is the much more common two and a half penny rosy mauve from 1873. SG 141. Cat £150, plate 3 is the scarcest plate number but with clipped perfs right and bottom edge and a horrid rusty stain. Mostly found with a heavy killer cancel,this one has escaped the messy ink……..nonetheless it is a damaged stamp whose presence in an album would always be an embarrassment…….a marginal spacefiller maybe, but I am inclined to the guillotine
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 10, 2023 19:52:58 GMT
Alex ( vikingeck), please save these two wounded warriors for me if you haven’t already destroyed them. I will use them to decoratively cover a box for my desk. I am always on the lookout for damaged classic stamps, and these would do nicely. Thanks!
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Jul 10, 2023 20:18:05 GMT
Alex vikingeck you ARE the hanging judge . I suspect if I did not already have both the recent Great Britain stamps you are preparing to put out of their misery I would keep as space fillers. I must admit I have stamps in similar condition scattered through my own world wide collection. I have also sold the odd space filler on eBay usually in the 4.99 range for high catalogue value stamps.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Jul 11, 2023 18:07:45 GMT
Here is an example of a damaged stamp found at sometime in an old collection. It is a Scott 109 that some one was a bit scissor happy with. I do not have a better example and to my eyes it is still worthy of mounting in my Great Britain collection.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Jul 12, 2023 9:32:09 GMT
I see your point Hugh , hdm1950 , these 10/- do not come along often ( unlike my two recent examples above which are less scarce) The “Hanging Judge “ would give yours a reprieve. 🏛️or at least a stay of execution. Obvious clipped perfs but a clean stamp on the whole Chris Beryllium Guy in the interests of friendship I will ABSOLUTELY NOT give you the 1/- green above , a gentleman of your discriminating taste should not consider it a stamp! even giving it away would be an insult. I will however concede the two pence half penny might have a decorative value so will hold it on sufferance till we meet up in York.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 9, 2023 19:31:54 GMT
Here is an item that I stumbled across yesterday that I put in the waste can pile and actually did throw it in with dry trash. Over time I have started to play closer attention to RPO cancels. Due to a fairly clear TOR & N’BAY I could not help myself and went bin jumping to give this clipping a reprieve….for now.
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paul1
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Post by paul1 on Aug 9, 2023 21:40:56 GMT
regret I've not the slightest idea as to RPO cancels and TOR & N'BAY .... in fact began to wonder of the TOR was a play on words re the damage;-) ....... but have to say I find it difficult to bin stamps unless they are true basket cases - pun intended. I'm slovenly and lazy and my collections reside in stock books since that's a simple way to collect substantial multiples of a single issue, all in one location - but it does lead to over collecting, and so many times I find myself saying, of a stamp, "mmmm, slight damage to perfs., or corner nick, but you never know when I get around to checking my series, who knows it may be a notable variety." And so I end up with 20 or 50 copies of the same stamp, and it's off to the Strand again for another stock book!!
Assume this is another 'carmine' job - it's a great colour - almost edible, bit of a 'Maple Leaf' too. She outlived him by half a century, which is a daunting period to continue without your oh, but 'The Queen Mother' as she became known, seemed to thrive well enough.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 9, 2023 22:18:18 GMT
regret I've not the slightest idea as to RPO cancels and TOR & N'BAY .... in fact began to wonder of the TOR was a play on words re the damage;-) ....... but have to say I find it difficult to bin stamps unless they are true basket cases - pun intended. I'm slovenly and lazy and my collections reside in stock books since that's a simple way to collect substantial multiples of a single issue, all in one location - but it does lead to over collecting, and so many times I find myself saying, of a stamp, "mmmm, slight damage to perfs., or corner nick, but you never know when I get around to checking my series, who knows it may be a notable variety." And so I end up with 20 or 50 copies of the same stamp, and it's off to the Strand again for another stock book!! Assume this is another 'carmine' job - it's a great colour - almost edible, bit of a 'Maple Leaf' too. She outlived him by half a century, which is a daunting period to continue without your oh, but 'The Queen Mother' as she became known, seemed to thrive well enough. RPO stands for Railway Post Office and this one was on the Toronto & North Bay line. This line has a long history (1895-1969) with many cancel hammers. (37 official hammers and 38 mail clerk hammers).
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Post by daniel on Aug 10, 2023 0:09:37 GMT
Here is an item that I stumbled across yesterday that I put in the waste can pile and actually did throw it in with dry trash. Over time I have started to play closer attention to RPO cancels. Due to a fairly clear TOR & N’BAY I could not help myself and went bin jumping to give this clipping a reprieve….for now. Hugh, you could repair that stamp see here . No experience necessary Daniel
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Post by paul1 on Aug 10, 2023 7:47:54 GMT
thanks Hugh for the explanation as to cancel data - very interesting and appreciated. As we can see, this item was poorly centred, though it hasn't affected the actual image, nonetheless a stamp that originally had a substantially wide margin around the picture, and you were given a little extra pink on the top right corner of the frame;-)
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 10, 2023 11:03:37 GMT
Hi hdm1950 my ‘Hanging Judge’ verdict : The stamp is common and badly damaged so not worth keeping as a stamp. However, and it is a big however , it certainly merits a reprieve as a POSTMARK . I suggest trimming close and square , rotate 90degrees right and show on a white background . The “TOR & N BAY R.P.O. No. 5” is then the statement and the damaged stamp is irrelevant.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 10, 2023 12:03:26 GMT
Hi hdm1950 my ‘Hanging Judge’ verdict : The stamp is common and badly damaged so not worth keeping as a stamp. However, and it is a big however , it certainly merits a reprieve as a POSTMARK . I suggest trimming close and square , rotate 90degrees right and show on a white background . The “TOR & N BAY R.P.O. No. 5” is then the statement and the damaged stamp is irrelevant. Thanks for the suggestion Alex. I was waiting for you to barge through my door in Viking kit with a blow torch.🤣
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Aug 10, 2023 21:57:04 GMT
I suggest trimming close and square , rotate 90degrees right and show on a white background . That's the oddest thing - when I look at hdm1950 's original image I see a stamp on top of an envelope (Normal World). When I look at the rotated version, especially these two sides, I see a perforated frame laid over top of a stamp image (Everything Is Backwards World). The shadows make it look different to me ... Ryan
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 10, 2023 22:12:24 GMT
I suggest trimming close and square , rotate 90degrees right and show on a white background . That's the oddest thing - when I look at hdm1950 's original image I see a stamp on top of an envelope (Normal World). When I look at the rotated version, especially these two sides, I see a perforated frame laid over top of a stamp image (Everything is Backwards World). The shadows make it look different to me ... Ryan Ryan I noted that too. It appears Alex vikingeck has some unique computer skills. The original post shows the clipping as it is in real time.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 10, 2023 23:16:45 GMT
An optical delusion 😎
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 13, 2023 14:28:18 GMT
Here's one I am just a tiny bit ambivalent about . USED in 1878 at INVERCARGILL . Destroy ? " To be, or not to be, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outraged collectors Or to take Arms .... And by opposing end it "
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Watermark large star and perf 12 1/2 SG has three shades Brown lilac, lilac and deep mauve. The Lilac is the cheapest shade at £45 catalogue Just on the cusp of worth keeping ? or offering on ebay in the hope someone needs it ?
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salentin
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Post by salentin on Aug 14, 2023 7:48:49 GMT
Alex, if you should come to deposing of that stamp,I would ask to send it to me. If nothing unforseen will happen,I will go to Invercargill next January. Will be my farest air-travel ever and most likely my last mayor voyage. Would be a nice reminder to look at on my old days. Werner
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 30, 2023 1:09:43 GMT
I removed this stamp from my Jamaica collection this evening because a replacement used copy arrived with no cut off perforations. Now as I prepare to trash it I have second thoughts. These early Jamaica stamps have very little border so it seems hard to believe that this one could be trimmed and appear so well centered. I see this stamp occasionally with one smooth side so I am wondering if it could be the lower left corner stamp of a sheet. They are also found with the extended wing border on one side and maybe this is just a trimmed one of those. The A65 Port Morant cancel is nice so I will stick it in the duplicate book and spare it for now from the trash.
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angore
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Post by angore on Aug 30, 2023 10:03:19 GMT
I would keep the Jamaican stamp.
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Post by carabop on Oct 2, 2023 21:49:16 GMT
What would you all do with this one? USA Scott #228 used and damaged?
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Oct 2, 2023 23:24:03 GMT
I would keep the 30 cent Jefferson as a spacefiller until a suitable replacement has been obtained and then toss it.
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 3, 2023 2:08:30 GMT
I agree with Steve- any higher denomination issue, or stamps that are generally hard to come by, regardless of shape have a 'place'. However, I'm not overly fond of seeing them offered for sale, unless very clearly stated (and proportionately priced), as opposed to just being included in alot.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Oct 9, 2023 9:52:15 GMT
Weep with me Oh my Brothers and Sisters, let your lamentations ring out at the sight of this philatelic vandalism . The sender of these packages must have had shares in Sellotape and Scotch tape! Certainly one of their best customers . He seems to have done it to save licking all those stamps! Every single stamp has tape over it ….some in both directions , vertically and horizontally! /j] $560 Face value in stamps head for the recycling bin . Not a single stamp which escaped the sellotape apart from 3 of the $1.05 Christmas in the middle of one 25 stamp block
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Oct 9, 2023 10:43:41 GMT
Every single stamp has tape over it ….some in both directions , vertically and horizontally! $560 Face value in stamps head for the recycling bin . Not a single stamp which escaped the sellotape apart from 3 of the $1.05 Christmas in the middle of one 25 stamp block I could not bring myself to click like to your post Alex. One has to wonder why?
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Oct 9, 2023 11:41:04 GMT
Maybe we need another click to = “sympathy” 😢😢
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cjoprey
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Post by cjoprey on Oct 9, 2023 13:18:25 GMT
Oh, the wanton destruction... It is truly a travesty!
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hdm1950
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What I collect: I collect world wide up to 1965 with several specialty albums added due to volume of material I have acquired. At this point I am focused on Canada and British America. I am always on the lookout for stamps and covers with postmarks from communities in Queens County, Nova Scotia. I do list various goods including stamps occasionally on eBay as hdm50
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Post by hdm1950 on Jan 4, 2024 15:13:23 GMT
A new arrival yesterday that was acquired at a small percent of catalogue. The pulled and trimmed perforations were obvious but sadly in gently cleaning and drying I detect a a split/tear in the paper. The seller would have never seen it and if I had not decided to clean it I would have never known. This Bermuda Scott 15 is pretty hard to find so I will keep it in a mount and have made a note in the album that it is faulty.
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