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Post by rod222 on Dec 8, 2013 0:43:47 GMT
Are you cropping those by computer image, Alan, or are you swish with a cutting blade? Pretty accurate cropping.
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Post by alanl on Dec 8, 2013 4:47:46 GMT
Yes Rod, the final crop is done by a little mouse.
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Post by Ryan on Dec 11, 2013 12:40:50 GMT
I was sorting through a batch of Yugoslav stamps the other night and this cutout from an aerogram was included in the packet. Ryan
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 11, 2013 21:00:57 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Dec 11, 2013 22:16:09 GMT
Unfortunately, Australia cannot be identified (I think) unless more of the piece was in evidence. I am guessing an "Airletter" Type 1 I'd suggest due to the July 1948 Postmark, it would be A2 or A3 Cannot be A3 due to Pmk Acknowledgement : The Australasian Stamp Catalogue , Seven Seas Stamps January 1990
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Post by rod222 on Dec 11, 2013 22:26:16 GMT
Your Great Britain piece, is a Meter Stamp Impression, Pitney Bowes Die 470a from 1922 It would have been printed on a machine of this type:
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Post by Zuzu on Dec 12, 2013 2:15:29 GMT
That's a nice-looking machine.
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Post by Ryan on Dec 20, 2013 9:07:07 GMT
Here's an aerogram cutout found in last night's sort through a random WW mix. I don't think I've come across any Vatican postal stationary before. Ryan
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 26, 2013 1:36:35 GMT
Here are two Italian entries:
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Post by rod222 on Dec 26, 2013 2:35:34 GMT
Steve trumpeted : "Here are two Italian entries:"
Your first is "BOLOGNA FERROVIA" Which I believe to be Bologna Railway. I shall stand corrected.
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 26, 2013 3:25:17 GMT
You'll get no argument from me. I think the date of the postmark is August 27, 1890. Would the digits directly above Ferrovia be the train number?
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Post by rod222 on Dec 26, 2013 4:26:49 GMT
Steve quipped : "I think the date of the postmark is August 27, 1890. Would the digits directly above Ferrovia be the train number?"
Not sure there, Steve, not seen enough (clear) strikes, I have seen Roma Ferrovia ("8S"), and Catania Ferrovia ("7S")
May be day, over month and year, over code. Yours may be 10S?
Ferrovia : Ferro Via = Iron Road =Railway?
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 26, 2013 12:49:31 GMT
Yes, Google translates ferrovia as railroad.
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 26, 2013 19:47:12 GMT
The design and thin paper on this entry from France leads me to believe it is from an early-1900s lettersheet or wrapper.
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Post by rod222 on Jan 3, 2014 20:48:40 GMT
Does any member have for sale, or access to, "Collecting British Postal Stationery" (Huggins) ?
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Post by rod222 on Jan 16, 2014 12:27:12 GMT
International Postage Meters : Worldwide.
If you have a hankering to collect (or ID) postage Meters, Franking meters from your country of choice, the wikibooks has a worldwide collection.
Google Wikibooks search "International Postage Meters"
Then search for your country of choice....A Fabulous resource.
You have to read online, I see no way to archive.
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Post by Ryan on Jan 16, 2014 19:46:58 GMT
International Postage Meters : Worldwide. If you have a hankering to collect (or ID) postage Meters, Franking meters from your country of choice, the wikibooks has a worldwide collection. Google Wikibooks search "International Postage Meters" Then search for your country of choice....A Fabulous resource. You have to read online, I see no way to archive. Click here for the Wikibooks link for the International Postage Meter catalogue Rod describes above. You can save a hard copy of this. On the left hand sidebar, there is a choice marked "Print / Export". Click on this to expand the menu tree and you have some possibilities for creating hard copies, either print or digital. Ryan
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Post by rod222 on Jan 17, 2014 1:19:47 GMT
"creating hard copies, either print or digital."
Yay! we have download, I have Papua New Guinea. Bravo Ryan. Thanks.
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Post by lokos on Jan 17, 2014 5:27:50 GMT
Does any member have for sale, or access to, "Collecting British Postal Stationery" (Huggins) ? Hey Rod I own a copy. Rick
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Post by rod222 on Jan 17, 2014 5:41:45 GMT
"I own a copy."
You do? ! Fabulous. If I post some images, care to see if they are listed Rick?
Don't wish to be rude, but you appear to have an unusual countenance, going by your avatar. It reminds me of Cyreno de Bergerac, (Gerard Depardieu) "My nose precedes me by 5 minutes"
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Post by lokos on Jan 17, 2014 6:04:04 GMT
For sure, I'd give it my best shot. Don't know about Cyreno, more like Kilroy meets Ziggy. PLUS
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Post by Philatarium on Jan 17, 2014 6:06:19 GMT
Steve postulated : "Seeing as how we have a Mutilated Postal Stationary board, what are your views on breaking this thread down into multiple threads by country of issue?" OK for me, I had original misgivings about placing them under country of origin, because after several years of posting, they will get lost in the depth. Good point, Rod, about losing these special posts in a single-country thread. But I think this can be a "both-and" opportunity. It looks like this board has the capability of easily providing a link to an individual post within a thread. On any post, just click on the little gear icon at the upper right of that post, select "link to post", and then you have an option to link either to just the post by itself, or alternatively to the post in the context of the thread. So a short post in a country thread could link back to the appropriate post in this thread. (I think.) -- Dave
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Post by rod222 on Jan 17, 2014 7:59:38 GMT
Good option Dave. Thanks for that. Rick, here is what I am faced with, I have about 6 Hagners of these. I would like to present them in some meaningful way, perhaps a boxed page with handwritten notes under each. Perhaps if you could scan and post a representative page, I can consider looking to purchase a catalogue.
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Post by lokos on Jan 17, 2014 21:32:24 GMT
Rod I do really like this catalog as it is just a wealth of information but..... if the majority of what you have is cut squares rather than complete envelopes or postcards you might find it would be a rather expensive purchase with not enough return for your money. The reason I say that is because the catalog is really set up for identifying complete envelopes or postcards. As reference works go this catalog is top notch and I've discovered a huge number of items I never realized existed. I don't want to dissuade in any way from purchasing it but I just wanted to let you know that if your expecting to be able to make definite identifications from your cut square collection you might be disappointed. I'm going to put up a few scans from the catalog with reference to the corners you displayed so you can get an ideal. If you have any questions about the catalog or would like some more scans/information please let me know. For the top row of your scan here are three scans. The first scan shows which design it is and the corresponding identification number which is "1b". It came in both vermilion and blue-green. The next scan shows the list of potentially diff. sized envelopes that were used. 1b vermilion was used on Size E and Size I. So potentially your corners are from either catalog number #EP36 or #EP37.
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Post by lokos on Jan 17, 2014 21:34:51 GMT
I'm going to put up some more scans shortly, just working on it between doing some other things at the same time. :-)
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Post by lokos on Jan 17, 2014 22:04:03 GMT
The part where it gets really tricky when you don't have the entire envelope is those those examples I showed were for "Post Office Issue" envelopes. GB has something I believe is unique to them (but I am a beginner when it comes to postal stationery so someone may correct me yet). They have what they call "Stamped To Order" or "STO" which is to say that any person, organization, business, basically anyone that had the money and put in an appropriate sized order could have any die or combination of dies printed as long as they already existed (meaning they weren't going to create any new dies just for a private order). These were approved and printed by the postal administration, the person putting in the order just had to supply whatever paper or card they wanted it printed on and pay for it. This leads to some really cool stationery but makes for a real headache when you don't have the entire envelope to look at. Making a correct identification is more a process of elimination. If you have the envelope and you can't match it up to an actual "Post Office Issue" then it must be a "Stamped To Order" item. If you only have the corner then the best you can probably hope for is to identify just the stamp imprint.
What originally led me to buy this catalog was because I had in my possession for a number of years some of those "STO" envelopes ( I know what they are now, I didn't then). What they looked like was if you took an envelope and completely unfolded the flaps so that it lied flat. These had never been folded. The part that really threw me was that they had multiple dies printed on them and from diff. eras. The catalog calls these " Stamped To Order - Compound Stampings" So instead of putting just one 2p die imprint they would have four 1/2p die imprints. They might be two 1/2p Victoria plus a 1/2p Edward VII plus a 1/2p George V. These private orders could be anyone of a single die or any combination of any number of dies.
Rick
I should have added that even if you have an entire envelope still might not mean a definitive identification as suppliers of paper and envelopes to the post office for "Post Office Issue" envelopes also sold to the public so its possible that even though the stamp imprint matches up with the envelope size, paper and color it still might be a "STO" item and not a "Post Office Issue".
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Post by rod222 on Jan 17, 2014 23:12:16 GMT
Fabulous stuff, Rick, I am aufait with the STO envelopes with Australia , and I cannot ID my cut squares of Romania due to the requirement of the entire article. I like the look of the catalogue, it is expensive but will lodge a want search via ebay, you never know.
No need to scan any further, that is great info you have offered.
Thanks for going to the trouble for me.
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Post by lokos on Jan 18, 2014 2:36:45 GMT
No problem at all Rod, it was an excellent excuse to spend some time re-familiarizing myself with the catalog. It really is an excellent source of info. A year or so ago I disposed of a collection of GB postcards and this catalog helped immensely. It really is nice when you have the reference material on hand for any oddball stuff that falls into your lap. If you change your mind and want any further scans or info about the catalog please let me know.
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 19, 2014 2:19:13 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Jan 19, 2014 6:57:56 GMT
Re: Mutilated Stationery.
3 I had not seen before, the US Official, and the 13c "antique tools"? amongst them. I find some of these US cutouts great for getting clear clean postmarks.
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