JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Feb 28, 2021 17:09:42 GMT
Vietnam imperforates question I have noticed numerous imperforate versions of Vietnam stamps on eBay. Are these considered legitimate issues by the cataloging community and stamp editors? I don't have a recent catalog. Example:
Wiki tells me this: "Many stamp sets of North Vietnam and post-reunification Vietnam are available imperforate, as opposed to the regular perforated versions. This goes for stamps printed domestically[14] and abroad.[15] At present, Vietnamese stamps are officially offered in both regular, imperforate and specimen versions.[16] The imperforate and specimen versions serve no postal purpose and are thus entirely aimed at the collector community." Does that accurately sum up the situation? Jeff |
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ameis33
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Post by ameis33 on Feb 28, 2021 17:35:29 GMT
Hello Jeff, i can't answer to your question properly, but as for "The imperforate and specimen versions serve no postal purpose and are thus entirely aimed at the collector community", well isn't it true also for regular issues? I believe these, like regular perforated stamps, can find place in a collection just depending by the collector wish more the on the base of on a official patent...
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Post by tomiseksj on Feb 28, 2021 19:23:55 GMT
The 2009 Scott catalog (the most recent worldwide set I have) indicates the set of 8 perf. 12 stamps (Scott 856-863; 25Jan1977) were also issued imperforate. The catalog makes no mention of their postal validity. Perhaps lvh7070 can offer some insight.  |
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Post by salentin on Mar 1, 2021 6:57:03 GMT
Michel (2003 !) lists the imperforated issues till the first half of 1981,most of them in mint.n.h. and used condition.
From then on they give the following note:
"From the year 1981 onwards there are imperforated stamps of most thematic issues. These cost mint or used 1,5 to 2 times the price of the mint perforated issues."
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ameis33
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Post by ameis33 on Mar 1, 2021 10:03:19 GMT
But i would say the "used" condition refers to CTO or to stamps postmarked directly during the printing phase...
Finding a genuine postage usage of those stamps, that would be a catch...
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Post by lvh7070 on Mar 3, 2021 16:28:24 GMT
Greetings from Vietnam My pleasure to join the philatelic passionate forum here. I hope I can learn and exchange ideas with other members going forward. I have been collecting North Vietnam stamps issued from 1946, including some of the hard-to-find stamps in Vietnam. For topical themes, I have been collecting art-paintings from artists of all historical art periods to date; traditional & regional ladies costumes; military uniforms; engraved stamps of landscape, people and buildings; historical literatures; classical music composers; traditional national festivals from all countries, cats and big cats. Kind regards, Leo Hung Sharing one of the hard to find stamp of the North Vietnam which I am able to acquire recently. VN Code 112 This stamp was issued by September 1962. But right after that this was recalled after 2 weeks. Reason of the recall was rumored as the design of the athlete foot stepped over the flags.  |
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Post by lvh7070 on Mar 3, 2021 16:44:47 GMT
lvh7070  to this stamp Forum I have Vietnam in my collection, as well as neighbors - hope to see your stamps !! René Canada Would like to share one of the rare stamps in my Vietnam collection VN Code 19 Issued by Nov-3 1956  |
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Post by lvh7070 on Mar 5, 2021 4:26:51 GMT
The 2009 Scott catalog (the most recent worldwide set I have) indicates the set of 8 perf. 12 stamps (Scott 856-863; 25Jan1977) were also issued imperforate. The catalog makes no mention of their postal validity. Perhaps lvh7070 can offer some insight. This set is identified by Scott (A289/#856-863) or VN Code (321/ 951-958). This was issued on Jan-28, 1977 (Source: www.vietstamp.net/vn/tem-viet-nam/tem-cong-hoa-xa-hoi-chu-nghia-viet-nam/1977/), printed by former CCCP This set was in both perf. and imperforate. The imperforate is meant for stamp collectors only, not for postage usage Sharing my set of imperforate here:  |
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Post by lvh7070 on Mar 15, 2021 14:36:56 GMT
Sharing my favorite set of Vietnam's "Cycle Rickshaws". VN Code: 906 Scott : A849 / 3175-3177 This was issued by April 1st 2003.  |
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salentin
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Post by salentin on Mar 16, 2021 12:46:40 GMT
VN Code 19,Mac-Thi-Buoi commemoratives:
Are the stamps you´ve showed cancelled to order ? I ask,because Michel lists two prices,one for postally used and,considerably cheaper,one for c.t.o. I guess the shown ones are c.t.o.,as the cancellation looks uniform,like from a central cancellation of blocs of four.
About the imperforated sets:
was the sale within Vietnam restricted ? Were they sold at all in Vietnam,or maybe to priviledged customers only, or were they produced for export only ? They were valid for postage,because they exist on letters and... are listed by Michel.
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Post by lvh7070 on Mar 21, 2021 14:48:45 GMT
@ Saletin
VN Code 19: Those Mac-Thi-Buoi stamp sets I posted earlier are all CTO.
Imperforated sets: These are available for any customers with no restriction. You may want to try order directly from Vietnam Stamp Company (Postage Stamp Issuer) for the recent years. As far as I am aware of, they are not valid for postage
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Post by renden on Dec 10, 2021 15:57:23 GMT
While working on my Indochina (french) classics, I came upon this overprint of Indochina 254 (1945) - Gov General Paul Doumer.
This overprint was done as a Viet Minh Issue (North Vietnam) and since it is the only one I presently have - decided to do a page and insert it with my Indochina collection - now I am looking for more.......my friend hrdoktorx had previously showed some overprints
René
p.s. there are 7 new stamps found today....
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Post by JeffS on Feb 8, 2022 23:35:31 GMT
I picked up this picture post card for the image of a Marchande de pamplemousses - grapefruit merchant. The large and varying sizes of the fruit make me think these are pomelos, not grapefruit.
The card is franked with one value from the 1951 landscapes and
one value from the 1952 3-stamp set featuring Nam Phuong, the "First Lady of Vietnam." She is a very interesting search subject.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Feb 9, 2022 7:03:40 GMT
JeffS.....nice card, definitely Pomelos. They are very popular here when in season and many prefer the less acidic flavour. I was interested so looked around and I understand that a Pomelo is often spoken in France and other French-speaking nations as a 'Pamplemousse'. No doubt the card publishers had that French influence during those Indochina days. Thanks for showing.
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Post by angore on Feb 9, 2022 10:35:04 GMT
Viet Minh issues  Democratic Republic of Vietnam (North Vietnam)  Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam)  |
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Feb 9, 2022 16:41:21 GMT
Londonbus1 You are absolutely correct regarding the use of "pamplemousse" by French localities for pomelo instead of grapefruit. I even have a page in my collection which addresses this. This will be a good visual addition to that section. thanks for the reminder. 
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Post by cursus on Mar 28, 2022 6:27:07 GMT
Two postcards from Hanoi and Saigon to Barcelona in 1995.
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Post by fazeman on Apr 30, 2024 1:25:08 GMT
From plant to cup, these 2022 stamps are appealing to me. Michel: VN 3910-3913 |
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Post by Hugh on Aug 21, 2024 15:34:20 GMT
I didn't see this one in this thread ... apologies if I missed it elsewhere on the forum. I don't collect a lot of modern stamps but this one I rediscovered in a stockbook is interesting. The DPRK-USA Summit in Vietnam in 2019. It features two hands shaking in front of a grove of bamboo - one each with the flags of North Korea and the US, the bamboo to represent the host country - Vietnam. Also featured are doves in flight (hope for peace) and the Khue Van Pavilion (the gate of a temple in Hanoi) the site of the summit. You can sometimes tell as much about a stamp based on what's not there ... as what is there. For example, the words 'Partnership for Sustainable Peace' and 'DPRK-USA / Hanoi Summit / Vietnam" are in English, directed to an English-speaking world (and philatelic market). That's what IS there. What's not there ... are the same words in Korean. No audience, no philateic market? I wonder how many actual use (not FDC) covers there are to the US and to South Korea?  Vietnam: North Korea-USA Hanoi Summit 4000 Dong, Perf 13 Issued: February 26, 2019 Number issued: 2,000,000 Sc. 2930 |
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Post by angore on Aug 22, 2024 11:04:06 GMT
I would guess no market in DPRK.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 14, 2024 9:05:40 GMT
NORTH VIETNAM (Vietnam Democratic Republic) III. General issues. SG#N277-282 Birds. Imperforate  |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 14, 2024 13:08:45 GMT
NORTH VIETNAM (Vietnam Democratic Republic) III. General issues. 1958 issue for the 'Education Campaign', showing an outdoor study class. 3 values, 3 colours. SG#N75-77  |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 18, 2024 12:47:19 GMT
NORTH VIETNAM. (Vietnam Democratic Republic) Postage Dues. Issued on January 12th 1958. Printed in sheets of 100 by the Printing House of the Bank of Vietnam. Designed by Bui Trang Chuoc SG#ND101-ND104  |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 19, 2024 12:44:35 GMT
NORTH VIETNAM (Vietnam Democratic Republic) III. General issues. Stamps showing a freighter in port and commemorating the Haiphong Port which serves North Vietnam. Opened in 1874 and now being expanded and upgraded. Issue of 1961. SG#N187-88 Printed by the Tien Bo Printing House in sheets of 100. Ungummed. Perf 11. Designed by Trịnh Quốc Thụ  |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 24, 2024 10:33:51 GMT
NORTH VIETNAM (Vietnam Democratic Republic) III. General issues. Issue of 1958, SG#N87-88 13th Anniversary of the Vietnamese Revolution. (August 1945) Gibbons states the stamps depict a scene from the revolution in Hanoi. VIETSTAMP are more specific stating "Seizing the Imperial Envoy's Office" !! Designed by Bùi Trang Chước. Printed on ungummed paper in sheets of 100 by Vietnam National Bank Printing Works. Perf 13.  |
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 26, 2024 13:15:22 GMT
NORTH VIETNAM (Vietnam Democratic Republic) III. General issues. 1960 issue showing the Hung Vuong Temple. SG#N131-132 Designer: Bùi Trang Chước Printed in sheets of 100 by the Tien Bo Printing House on ungummed paper. (Vietstamp) Perf 11 www.britannica.com/topic/Hung-Vuong |
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