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Post by Jen B on Jan 25, 2014 23:53:50 GMT
While sorting through some Colombian stamps the other day, I came across this 1892 5 cent issue with an interesting cancel. It looks like a snowflake or flower.  Does anyone know the name of this type of cancel? For example, is it considered a cork or fancy cancel? I search around on the internet for information but only found a frame in an online exhibit of Colombian Postal History by James Cross at the Exponet site. One frame shows postcards with the same cancel and on the same 1892 issue stamps. Thanks |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 26, 2014 0:19:01 GMT
Perhaps your post supplies the answer Jen B ! I have a similar stamp with the postmark, and previous queries on other Forums failed to give an answer ( I always scan the results of queries alongside the stamp) However, your fabulous link to Exponet, would suggest the "petals" are part of a "duplex" arrangement? See how the ink, is the same colour as the CDS alongside. (Your stamp shows part of the sibling CDS in same colour, in the corner) I feel this may be the explanation. Perhaps our resident expert Jerry, could confirm? (PS : A red star opt on Colombian stamps, I believe come from a Cartagena opt) My example  |
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Post by Jerry B on Jan 26, 2014 9:21:39 GMT
Hi Jen: As far as I know it is just a cancel. How and with what it was cancelled I have no idea. On another board someone asked the identical question but I cannot seem to find the thread, let alone which stamp board. Rodney: It is a Cartagena overprint. It did not come from any other overprint. During the 1000 days war, 1899 - 1902, stamps were overprinted in Cartagena. The overprints consist of: Blue Stars Parallel wavy lines Box with double line border with script between. May see only a partial box unless one has a block. Red chain across stamp A single red star Magenta wavy lines en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousand_Days'_War Jim Cross was a friend and the founder of COPAPHIL. His two Exponent exhibits are well worth looking at: www.japhila.cz/hof/0382/index0382a.htmwww.japhila.cz/hof/0371/index0371a.htm
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 26, 2014 13:05:23 GMT
With both examples shown in Cross' online exhibit being on pieces sent outside of Colombia, I'd guess that the obliterator was a Colombian equivalent of the New York City foreign mail design cancellations used between 1871 and 1877.
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Post by Jen B on Jan 27, 2014 1:32:00 GMT
Thanks Rod, Jerry & Steve. Rod, the answer was staring me in the face wasn't it.  So back to James Cross's exhibit on Exponet, this time to look more closely. There were many more frames with this type of cancel. This page has two examples and are described as Class X town cancels. Well that got me enough information to find a link to an 1988 newsletter of the Colombian - Panama Philatelic Study Group. That newsletter has an article by James Cross on Colombian Postal Markings. The cancel in this thread is described as a "Class X - Common type duplex circular date stamps with flower killer". |
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Post by cjd on Jan 27, 2014 2:31:13 GMT
Nice work, all. I haven't flipped through my Colombia in ages, so something else to go back and look for.  Going back through stamps you already own to look for something new is pretty much free entertainment. Jen B, you're going to fit in well here, I predict. |
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Post by BC on Jan 27, 2014 2:49:36 GMT
Thanks for sharing Jen. What a beautiful cancel! I have never seen anything like it.
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Post by Zuzu on Jan 27, 2014 3:25:19 GMT
Fantastic thread. I'm always impressed by not only the knowledge held by TSF members, but the knowledge seeking!
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Post by rod222 on Jan 27, 2014 5:37:47 GMT
"A flower killer" that has to be a first for me  I echo cjd's comments, the Gals here are fabulous, and a bonus for us all great research. We all learnt something, and had fun doing it. I suppose we would be remiss, if not applauding Mr. James Cross as well I bet the actual duplex postal hammer was a beauty, would give you muscles after a day of cancelling. |
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