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Post by randyharper on Mar 6, 2014 19:35:57 GMT
This two stamps? are dated 1943-and 1948 but I don't know where they are from or what actual postal purpose they served. Does anyone know any catalog numbers or information about these stamps?? You help would be appreciated.   |
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Post by randyharper on Mar 20, 2014 15:32:10 GMT
Someone out there must know what these are???
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Post by Philatarium on Mar 20, 2014 19:37:41 GMT
I'll pretty much post here the same thing I did for the other one:
I'm glad you raised this question again. ... I did just try to do a Google image search on it, and it came up dry. Same with the other item you posted.
It's worth keeping it bumped up every few days, like you did, because people meander in and out of here, and I would think, with a little more time, someone will know.
Both are great questions, and I'm glad you posted them here!
I'll be interested in learning about what they turn out to be.
-- Dave
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Post by ncbucki on Mar 20, 2014 20:36:39 GMT
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Post by randyharper on Mar 21, 2014 20:43:05 GMT
thanks everyone and still searching!!
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Post by rod222 on Apr 24, 2015 8:31:08 GMT
What is this man thinking? Unsolved for 12 years so far (I have no idea)  |
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Post by KirkS on Apr 25, 2015 12:14:31 GMT
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Post by Jerry B on Apr 25, 2015 12:26:45 GMT
Hi
He may be thinking "What the H--- did the Post Office do with my auction lot?"
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Post by Jerry B on Apr 25, 2015 12:33:15 GMT
Hi The design seems similar to stamps from the Netherlands (Scott 357-374). Hard to see the overprint but a possibility may be Belgium or some country within that geographical area. Searching around the best guess I have is a Revenue stamp. The blue 7 looks like, to my old eyes, a stylized BE violet overprint. Try this: images.google.com/ (Click on the camera in the search box.) Jerry B |
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Post by khj on Apr 26, 2015 0:25:52 GMT
It looks more like a stylized BB overprint to me, where the right B is reversed. My initial reaction was Belgian, but most of the Belgian date formats that I have seen during that time period use Roman numbers for the month.
No currency and no indication of postal validity or use, so I'm wondering if it is some sort of ration stamp? I'll even take a wild stab that maybe it is Dutch Indies area?
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Post by jamesw on Apr 26, 2015 23:11:19 GMT
I agree with the Belgium theory. The left facing lion rampart on the top pair (vert subtle in the green lines) and the double B in the second. Possibly revenue meter stamps. That would account for the printed date and no postal reference. Canada used meter excise stamps in the 1940-50s. Could be the same idea.
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Post by Philatarium on Apr 27, 2015 17:52:15 GMT
May I throw another inquiry onto the pile? Does anybody recognize this? Google Image and TinEye searches turn up nothing. Any suggestions?  |
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Post by rod222 on Apr 27, 2015 20:53:38 GMT
May I throw another inquiry onto the pile? That could be absolutely anything Dave. The only clues I can see, the gentleman is wearing a Cape (Dates the image, not the drawing), to circa 1700's and the building has a European, Spanish shape. What make you think it Philatelically inspired? |
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Post by Philatarium on Apr 27, 2015 21:35:15 GMT
What make you think it Philatelically inspired? Other than the rectangular shape?  For the sake of completeness, here is the original image:  The real answer is that it showed up a stamp assortment of various items from Middle East countries. I do agree that it really could be anything, but, in a discussion about it elsewhere, one of the participants thought they had seen it before, and that conversation was in a stamp context. I'm asking here because there are more cinderella and paper ephemera collectors here than on any of the other boards I know of. |
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Post by rod222 on Apr 28, 2015 0:00:54 GMT
Now the full image shows what may be pin perforations or rouletting, that adds weight to the argument, but no, never seen anything like it before. At best, an amateurish label, even for a cinderella Nevertheless, interesting. Know any famous men of the past, who owned a dog? |
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Post by Philatarium on Apr 28, 2015 5:12:45 GMT
It does look almost like it was cut out from a children's storybook, and, who knows, that may be its provenance. I thought I would put it out for discussion, in case it rings a bell with someone.
(I failed to post the full image at first because I had created the straightened and cropped image to run against the image search engines. That was the image I had handy when I made my post. But thank you for reminding me that I should've also put the full image (with black background) up as well.)
Thanks!
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Post by Jerry B on Apr 28, 2015 8:19:23 GMT
Hi
First impression I got was the building looked familiar. Maybe the fort in Puerto Rico or Casablanca Morocco.
Jerry B
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Post by rod222 on Apr 28, 2015 12:06:21 GMT
If I had to make a guess, I'd suggest it's that guy who invented Polo Mints, Marco Polo
(The dog still doesn't make sense though)
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Post by Jerry B on Apr 28, 2015 14:54:53 GMT
Hi Rodney
Polo Mints?? Is that an Oz thing?? However, real ugly dog.
Jerry B
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Post by irishjack on Apr 28, 2015 17:26:50 GMT
Polo mints are a British mint very similar to lifesavers in the USA.
They were very popular and I believe the larges selling mint in the UK.
As a kid in Ireland we all sucked on them, Often you would see school kids going into the shop and buying a pack of cigarettes and a pack of polo mints at the same time. Great to mask the smell of smoke off your breath.
I often go home and my mother would say why are you sucking polo mints and give me that LOOK. |
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Post by irishjack on Apr 28, 2015 17:58:29 GMT
If I had to make a guess, I'd suggest it's that guy who invented Polo Mints, Marco Polo (The dog still doesn't make sense though) Rod many explorers had a dog travel with them, Lewis and Clarke travelled with a Newfoundland dog en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaman_(dog).
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Post by jimjung on Oct 22, 2015 10:41:41 GMT
For the original post, the swirly lines reminds me of the stamps from Estonia in the 1930's. They all had those background lines, I guess, for security. I think they are North East European because they bothered to put these security lines on the stamps.
For the Souvenir Sheet above, it looks like Chinese letters and the flag on the girls jacket is a Sino-Japanese flag but oddly showing part of the Great Wall in the background.
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Post by randyharper on Oct 23, 2015 1:49:45 GMT
It's nice that people are still looking and trying. Also nice to see others using the thread for the same purpose. Still searching for the answer on that first one though. It's a real son of a gun. Longest stumper I have ever had. Thanks to all who contributed
jeff
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Post by randyharper on Oct 27, 2015 3:31:55 GMT
No luck with the "LignUp" Stamp search program either - no hits
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Post by rod222 on Oct 27, 2015 3:40:30 GMT
No luck with the "LignUp" Stamp search program either - no hits One has to be patient, the answer will turn up one day. I just got a solution for a Japanese label, I never thought I would crack. My hunch for yours is latin, Cuban, Spanish maybe. Cuba had some similar wavy line overprints on their early stamps. |
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Post by randyharper on Oct 27, 2015 3:48:19 GMT
thanks Rod, will delve into what I can with the country. We have been out of touch (stampwise and otherwise) for so long, it may be an issue coming up with relevant material, but the hunt will continue. (and yes it feels good when one finally comes together like your Sino-Japanese friendship cinderella). Very akin to my finally getting the "low down" on a missing relative in my genealogy. You really sit there and say "gotcha"!
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Post by rod222 on Oct 27, 2015 5:28:10 GMT
thanks Rod, will delve into what I can with the country. We have been out of touch (stampwise and otherwise) for so long, it may be an issue coming up with relevant material, but the hunt will continue. (and yes it feels good when one finally comes together like your Sino-Japanese friendship cinderella). Very akin to my finally getting the "low down" on a missing relative in my genealogy. You really sit there and say "gotcha"! jeff This was my immediate reaction, on seeing yours, probably no real indication, because 50 years between issues....... Randyharper, and your name is Jeff ?  PS: In your overprint ornament on the 1948 issue, do you see "B E" in the scrollwork?  This is the one that was just cracked for me, by a collector ............  |
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Post by khj on Oct 27, 2015 13:23:27 GMT
Jeff, I'm still guessing they are Belgian ration stamps or related. But I still haven't been able to find an exact match.
Does anybody have the Alnis Guide to Belgian Rationing Stamps (it should cover 1940-1948, which is the date on those stamps).
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Post by rod222 on Oct 27, 2015 19:44:07 GMT
Jeff, I'm still guessing they are Belgian ration stamps or related. But I still haven't been able to find an exact match. Does anybody have the Alnis Guide to Belgian Rationing Stamps (it should cover 1940-1948, which is the date on those stamps). I think we are getting closer....... may explain the "B E" in the scroll, and look at the whorls on the cover here...............  |
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Post by khj on Oct 27, 2015 19:49:58 GMT
I still think it is an artistic B and mirror B, not BE. But again, that's just guesswork -- BB would be symbolic of Belgie-Belgique.
Of course, we could all be wrong and it might turn out to be nothing more than an artistic version of swinging double doors. Eh?
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