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One more J.S. Pa. star cancel cover!! Mar 10, 2014 2:50:33 GMT rod222, Zuzu, and 2 more like this

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Post by I.L.S. on Mar 10, 2014 2:50:33 GMT

We (My Uncle Bill) found another of these covers cleaning out my family members attic. My uncle Bill Williams (Love that guy!) scanned it to show me! I know it's Family related because it's addressed to William Antes a prominent name and/or relative of our family tree. Also, Williamsport is just down river 16 miles so it didn't have far to travel did it? I've yet to research it as I was excited to show it here, if nothing else to document it's existence!

Also, to maybe reveal what a nerd I actually am, here is some sketches from my little journal I made while documenting these. I'll draw up actual good images for my presentation I hope to do someday.

Commissioners. — Commissioners were elected annually until the adoption of the
Constitution of 1872-73, which provided for the triennial election of the entire board,
one of which shall belong to the minority party. The following were the first com-
missioners, elected on the second Tuesday of October, 1795: Thomas Forster, John
Hanna, and James Crawford. After this year one member retired annually and a
new one came in. The succession was as follows: 1796, William Wilson; 1797,
Henry Donnel; 1798, Thomas Forster; 1798, James McClure; 1799, >>....William W. Antes; 1861

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I mainly collect the US Classic singles & covers also, classic era B.O.B. items.

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One more J.S. Pa. star cancel cover!! Mar 10, 2014 3:05:23 GMT lokos likes this

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Post by I.L.S. on Mar 10, 2014 3:05:23 GMT

This dial has been in use from the 1830's-1840's (shown below) so it's old even in the Civil War era 1861 usage.

Below was my reason for studying that dial a little closer. They appear to be the same dial don't they? What do you think?

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I mainly collect the US Classic singles & covers also, classic era B.O.B. items.

I.L.S. Departed Rest in Peace I am in Clearfield, Pa. I love US Classic covers! Posts: 2,113	One more J.S. Pa. star cancel cover!! Mar 10, 2014 3:06:37 GMT lokos likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by I.L.S. on Mar 10, 2014 3:06:37 GMT These are from 1861 Civil War era usages.
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One more J.S. Pa. star cancel cover!! Mar 10, 2014 12:14:12 GMT rod222 likes this

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Post by I.L.S. on Mar 10, 2014 12:14:12 GMT

A very respected member of another board Wt1 says:

"I would say you're looking at different dials for all of the scanned covers. The first two look to be the same at first glance but are not. Look carefully at the position of the letters "ER" in "JERSEY. They are spaced differently!

In fact, the second and third are of a smaller diameter circle and, if you look closely, in example #3, the letter "S" in "SHORE" is in the 12 o'clock position; in example #4, the letter "Y" in "JERSEY" takes the 12 o'clock position (not to mention other subtle spacing variances between the letters).

Assuming all of your scans are of the same size, the original cover (addressed to W. Antes, Esq.) is showing an even larger diameter circle than all of the others shown, so that too is a different dial."

OK (wt1) thinks every dial shown is different; He very well may be right but I'll say this- I believe that the last two shown is the same dial used. I'll have to do some fly-specking today.

My revised opinion on the matter*

At first glance they all appear identical...of course they are not. Because of the amount of use and wear they would have to endure they was regularly replaced. I am making up an identification guide of these I'll have change and add to my rough sketches so denoting the subtle differences.

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jamesw Member Posts: 2,492	One more J.S. Pa. star cancel cover!! Mar 11, 2014 3:16:23 GMT I.L.S. likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by jamesw on Mar 11, 2014 3:16:23 GMT Jinkies, Jeff! this stuff is amazing! We stopped buying old houses because they were too crafty and quite frankly rarely found much of interest in the attics. Niiiiiice.

I.L.S. Departed Rest in Peace I am in Clearfield, Pa. I love US Classic covers! Posts: 2,113	One more J.S. Pa. star cancel cover!! Apr 20, 2014 12:29:35 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by I.L.S. on Apr 20, 2014 12:29:35 GMT Thank you James!
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One more J.S. Pa. star cancel cover!! Oct 24, 2014 8:40:41 GMT firstfrog2013 likes this

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Post by I.L.S. on Oct 24, 2014 8:40:41 GMT

Pictures of my home town of Jersey Shore, Pa. in the fall (This week actually)

OK you have seen most of relatively extensive Jersey Shore Pa. collection of Stampless covers, folded letters, stamped covers with fancy dials & Fancy cancels, postcards, bank drafts and all matter of different documentation- so I thought it might me fun for me to let you actually visualize where and why I love this place so much.. (I'm headed there today as a matter of fact!) but will be home tomorrow; anyhow here are some beautiful pictures of Jersey Shore Pa.

Pictures of my home Jersey Shore, Pa. taken a few days ago.

This was the Tobacco fields that we all worked in during the summer but they grow sod there now. Some of the Dutch still have tobacco patches here and there though.

This is what's called the "Silver Bridge" and has been recently taken apart, sent out to be 100% restored and shipped back and re assembled. It's by where the "Tiadaghton Elm Tree" used to stand which is very historically significant to out community. OK I'll just leave you with the pictures and hope you have a wonderful day! Your lil' buddy -Jeff

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I mainly collect the US Classic singles & covers also, classic era B.O.B. items.

One more J.S. Pa. star cancel cover!!

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