rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 1, 2014 7:18:38 GMT
What better way to start, than with our member jkblue? bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/fiume.htmlRijeka (Fiume) 1919 Free State under Italian Influence (including Susak) 1924 Fiume annexed by Italy, Susak transferred to Yugoslavia 1943 Fiume occupied by Germany (Sept) 1945 Occupied by partisans (May3) Rijeka and Susak merged. From assistance from Mr. J T Carrigan. (US) Scan later... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fiume & Kupa Zone (Italian Occupation) Dates 1941 – 1942 Currency 100 paras = 1 dinar Refer Italian Occupation Issues --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 1, 2014 12:31:44 GMT
1921 Sc # 138 Provisional Government Opt. "Governo Provvisorio"  Revenue Stamp WW2 Opt Stars and Fiume on 14 filler Hungarian Fiscal Mounted Archer. Maybe listed under Unificato Catalogue  |
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Oct 1, 2014 12:51:20 GMT
Newspaper Stamp
1c gray green, unwatermarked, perf. 11 issued September 12, 1920 (Scott P4). This stamp also exists imperf. 
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Jerry B
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Post by Jerry B on Oct 1, 2014 19:50:28 GMT
Hi Rodney Here is a link you might be interested in. Since we are an APS chapter you should be able to read the journal. I remembered seeing this article. stamps.org/AP-2013-JuneJerry B |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Oct 1, 2014 21:39:17 GMT
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Oct 1, 2014 21:43:43 GMT
Rod, it is my one and only Fiume stamp and I got it in stoltzpup's "Ones" lot in the July 19th auction.
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Jerry B
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Post by Jerry B on Oct 2, 2014 6:07:13 GMT
Hi Rodney
Yes, it is the same article.
Jerry B
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on May 6, 2015 22:55:09 GMT
1924  |
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Post by rod222 on May 8, 2015 22:15:06 GMT
Special Delivery Stamps. Opts  |
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Post by rod222 on Jun 3, 2015 23:26:47 GMT
1924 Overprints. Steiner page 16 These were the last Postage stamps of Fiume, thence superseded by Stamps of Italy. Note : The overprint evidences the allegorical knot that represents the unity of Italy. Italy's other allegory is the Star.  |
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Post by rod222 on Jun 3, 2015 23:47:11 GMT
1922 Steiner Page 13 Constituent Assembly Opts.  |
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Post by rod222 on Jun 5, 2015 5:16:12 GMT
1919 Steiner page 3 Allegory of "Italy" with star on headband, (Italy is protected by her faith) Clocktower. Allegory of revolution, Italy with her strength (Lion) Sailor.  |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 25, 2016 9:24:34 GMT
Fiume o Morte d'Annunzio 1920 coup. Balogna  |
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on May 2, 2020 21:07:14 GMT
real or forgeries? the non overprint gum is "too perfect" and the overprint incredibly sloppy. On the back page of a France accumulation I received- just these two  |
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Post by marking on May 3, 2020 1:01:45 GMT
real or forgeries? the non overprint gum is "too perfect" and the overprint incredibly sloppy. On the back page of a France accumulation I received- just these two The 1919 looks like a Grayish Brown perf 11.5 Overall it looks fine - one forgery is very crude and the other one I know of is also rough and the star is badly shaped The 1919 Provisional also looks ok and is probably a type II The overprint often looks bad  |
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on May 3, 2020 1:17:25 GMT
Thanks marking much appreciated. Not a region I collect, but I was curious. Are these common stamps? |
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Post by rex on May 3, 2020 14:15:08 GMT
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Post by rex on May 3, 2020 14:24:03 GMT
About the 20 cent is different thing. First, we have here three different types of paper CARTA A B C with different evaluations catalog, I don't traslate Im sure you'll manage translation of it..  |
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Post by rex on May 3, 2020 14:34:00 GMT
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Post by gstamps on Feb 6, 2024 11:11:46 GMT
I want to sell some of my Fiume stamps. I have the Scott catalog from 2009 and my stamp is Scott#158:  I looked on ebay to see what the current value is and to my surprise I saw the stamp with the additional overprint 1922 with no.Scott#158.  In my 2009 catalog this is Scott#170. Have the Scott numbers changed? A recent value for my stamp would also be helpful. |
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Post by rednaxela on Feb 6, 2024 16:38:05 GMT
I looked on ebay to see what the current value is and to my surprise I saw the stamp with the additional overprint 1922 with no.Scott#158. In my 2009 catalog this is Scott#170. Have the Scott numbers changed? A recent value for my stamp would also be helpful. At least Fiume Scott # 160 was and still is # 160: Colnect also continues to use the catalog numbers known from Scott 2009.
Without accusing anyone of malice, the imprint "1922", which clearly reduces the value, sometimes seems to be "overlooked". That this can even happen to experts is astonishing to say the least.
On HIP-Stamps you can find an identical offer for this (possibly only alleged) # 158 at 90 $ (identical certificate number).
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Post by gstamps on Feb 6, 2024 18:10:50 GMT
Thank you rednaxela . I don't know how someone can make a mistake and not see the 1922 overprint. In my catalog the value is US$80 and the sale prices of 85 and 90 caught my attention - they seem obviously absurd to me. What is the recent catalog value of Scott#158?...is it still 80? |
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rod222
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Post by rod222 on Feb 6, 2024 21:38:15 GMT
Thank you rednaxela . I don't know how someone can make a mistake and not see the 1922 overprint. In my catalog the value is US$80 and the sale prices of 85 and 90 caught my attention - they seem obviously absurd to me. What is the recent catalog value of Scott#158?...is it still 80? I had the value on my Steiner Sheet at $2 ! That was Scott #170 (1922) now $4 My more recent info is now Sc#158 at around $100 - $130 |
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Post by gstamps on Feb 7, 2024 3:14:46 GMT
Thank you, rod222I noticed that for stamps in the US$ 50-100 category, the increase from 2009 until now is 40-60%. I hope I'm not mistaken. |
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Post by rednaxela on Feb 7, 2024 20:02:13 GMT
Thank you rednaxela . I don't know how someone can make a mistake and not see the 1922 overprint.In my catalog the value is US$80 and the sale prices of 85 and 90 caught my attention - they seem obviously absurd to me. What is the recent catalog value of Scott#158?...is it still 80? APS has just confirmed to me that a mistake has indeed been made: the certified stamp is undoubtedly Fiume Scott # 170 and not # 158. The APS online certificate archive now refers to the correct facts (# 170) for the certificate in question. |
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Post by gstamps on Feb 8, 2024 8:10:12 GMT
rednaxela, initially I thought the certificate was fake. How can I access the APS certificate archive online? Only APS members have access?
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Post by rednaxela on Feb 8, 2024 8:24:14 GMT
rednaxela , initially I thought the certificate was fake. How can I access the APS certificate archive online? Only APS members have access? Everyone can check whether the respective certificate actually exists and what the result of the certification was.
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