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Post by WERT on Jul 3, 2021 15:05:57 GMT
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renden
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Post by renden on Jul 3, 2021 15:42:26 GMT
Thanks for the help from Beryllium Guy , tomiseksj and WERT - I have discovered my 1st grill on this 3ç A36 (Sc 114) - Your deduction on the cut Franklin is evident and I did think about that possibility Appreciate ++ René now, my microscope works but still - not used to checking "grills" on US stamps
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banknoteguy
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 4, 2021 15:17:38 GMT
renden said,
A36 no grill (G) 1 straight edge - Locomotive 1875 ?
I agree this is design A36 Scott 114 with grill, 1869. In the image posted, you can just see a hint of the grill. Grills on this series of stamps can be very hard to detect, particularly from the face side. Below is my example. The grill can barely be seen from the front.
But from the back it is clearly there but it does not jump out at you. Scans at 1200dpi on black background and slightly reduced to use TSFhosting (1024 x 1400 max size for image in pixels) work best for me.
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 4, 2021 15:25:52 GMT
Following up on my previous post, photographing grills is best done with oblique light. So photographing on a stand is about the only way to do it. A cell phone can work but holding a light and the cell phone is tricky -- devices to hold the light help.
My example of S.114 3c Locomotive photographed with oblique light follows:
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 4, 2021 17:49:59 GMT
Jack ( banknoteguy ) (it is Jack correct>) oblique- are you placing the lighting at a 45" to the stamo? more/less? and any particular light source? Thanks Stan
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 4, 2021 18:04:55 GMT
Stan,
Yeah about 45 though probably a little less than that and diagonally across that grill. I use an LED flashlight with several intensity settings and use the lowest that seems to not wash out the stamp.
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 4, 2021 18:11:30 GMT
Normally I like scanning stamps better than photographing them but for anything you need an oblique light source, photography is a better option.
Below is another grill example that I did today. This is a S.94 F grill. It is an especially well struck up grill. Easily visible from the obverse and reverse. But I still think oblique light helps illuminate the grill better than a scan.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Sept 4, 2021 19:35:29 GMT
Stan,
Yeah about 45 though probably a little less than that and diagonally across that grill. I use an LED flashlight with several intensity settings and use the lowest that seems to not wash out the stamp.
That is an exceptionally clear photo. Great job.
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 5, 2021 13:36:03 GMT
Just posting an image of one of my favorite Classics S.63
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Post by jamesw on Sept 25, 2021 22:24:06 GMT
Hi everyone! As I mentioned the other day I've not been around for a while, life has been topsy turvy. I won't bore you with details. Instead....I'll bore you recent purchases. I've not bought a lot the last couple of years, not even done that much stamping, to be honest. But last week I won an online auction lot of classic US. Here's the first item I saw that caught my eye. USA SC#1 1847 Sorry the image is so big. I seem to have forgotten how to upload images properly. Anyway, plenty of other surprises in this auction lot, so you'll be seeing more the next few days. Nice to see you all!
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Post by WERT on Sept 25, 2021 22:55:14 GMT
nice to see you jamesw Glad you are safe..Robert BTW..Nice stamp....VERY NICE
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Sept 25, 2021 23:34:21 GMT
Welcome back, jamesw. It looks like yours wasn't the only eye that got caught. Very nice margins!
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Post by WERT on Sept 26, 2021 3:24:56 GMT
Help Got one stamp with grill, but this is one with no grill. Can any one tell me what the Scott number is... Perforation is 12.0 x 12.0
Thanks in advance.
Robert
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Post by mdroth on Sept 26, 2021 11:47:04 GMT
Scott # 65
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banknoteguy
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 26, 2021 12:27:55 GMT
Robert,
Yes S.65. A very common stamp. S.64 same design just pinker and not so common. S.66 also same design but Lake color.
S.64 comes in a variety of shades. It is very hard to find one with four margins, perfect perfs and a face free cancel though.
Lots of interesting cancels.
Below are a couple of my examples:
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Post by WERT on Sept 26, 2021 13:01:11 GMT
Thanks for the replies guys...Appreciate it.
Robert
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Post by jamesw on Sept 26, 2021 20:13:26 GMT
I'm glad you brought up the 3¢ Washington, Robert, great segue! The auction lot I won had these 9 un-grilled Washingtons. The previous owner was pretty good a i.d'ing and labelling the stamps on the back in pencil The top three here are unlabelled, the middle three he as as #64 and the bottom three $65 ( the farthest right in this row obviously very oxidized). I understand the problems with identifying colour on our computers - scanners, monitors blah blah blah. But by scanning these together I think you can get a pretty good comparison I think the top three are quite pink, especially the first two. I leave it for your expert eyes to give opinions if you wish. I won't hold you to anything.
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banknoteguy
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 26, 2021 21:30:22 GMT
S.65s run from pale brown red to bright rose. None of the stamps you scanned looks like a pink S.64 to my eyes but the only way to be sure is comparing with a certified example.
This is an S.64 pink from the Siegel database:
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Post by jamesw on Sept 26, 2021 22:01:00 GMT
Another excellent acquisition from last weeks auction is this short set of unused Columbian Expo stamps, all NG, except the 4¢ which is hinged. The 1 and 4¢ are also damaged, but easily replaced. The prize of course is the nicely centered $1. Unfortunate there's no gum but things could be worse! Who knows what these have been through the last nearly 130 years!
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Post by Admin on Sept 26, 2021 23:16:23 GMT
... the only way to be sure is comparing with a certified example....
Better yet, get the stamp certified. Here is my Scott 64 with the accompanying Philatelic Foundation certificate.
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banknoteguy
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 26, 2021 23:17:06 GMT
That is a really nice $1 Columbian!
Mine pales by comparison:
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Post by jamesw on Sept 27, 2021 1:23:53 GMT
Also from the auction. Five unused stamps from the 1898 Tran Mississippi issue 4 and 8¢ are hinged with gum, rest are NG Actually, now I see these on the screen I see the 1¢ has slight traces of a very light cancel. Oh well...
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Post by jamesw on Sept 27, 2021 1:30:35 GMT
And these are the last of the lovelies from last weeks win. Unused Pan American series from 1901. 8¢ is MH, the rest are NG I LOVE this series!!!!
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Post by JeffS on Sept 27, 2021 3:13:16 GMT
Steve - so is pink and pigeon blood pink the same? The cert uses both terms.
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Post by banknoteguy on Sept 27, 2021 10:38:53 GMT
Jeff,
I believe what you are seeing on that PF cert is:
a) the cover (stamp) was submitted as 64a Pigeon blood (very rare and expensive) b) but PF is certifying the stamp as 64 pink (scarce).
Very confusing but I have seen several like this. Makes my head spin to see this.
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Post by Admin on Sept 27, 2021 12:27:40 GMT
JeffS , Jack is correct. The colors are different and there is about a $4,000 difference in CV between a pigeon blood pink (64a) on cover and a pink (64) on cover.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Sept 27, 2021 12:28:30 GMT
Thanks for the clarification. I’ve never owned anything needing a PF cert.
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renden
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Post by renden on Sept 27, 2021 13:45:43 GMT
Steve - so is pink and pigeon blood pink the same? The cert uses both terms. Confusion about the cert. 64a or 64 - 2 shades mentioned René
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Sept 27, 2021 14:29:03 GMT
renden, the stamp was "described by the applicant" as 64a pigeon blood pink. The opinion of the Expert Committee was that the stamp was "a genuine Scott 64 pink." When viewing a Philatelic Foundation certificate, it is important to read the pre-printed text for clarity.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Sept 27, 2021 14:38:49 GMT
Dang fine print!
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