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Post by rod222 on Dec 28, 2014 21:26:28 GMT
Danzig "Coat of Arms" 1924-1937
Are there members here who can explain how I may determine what stamps are "White Paper" in this set please?
All my stamps in this set are postmarked (used). I am beginning with the 5-pfennig orange on (yellowish), and it is very difficult to imagine what "white paper" may look like, as they all look "white" to me.
I have turned them over on their backs, and on 3 examples, I can see the design from the back, (translucent) the other 4 are opaque: would this be a guide?
Thanks.
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Post by rod222 on Dec 28, 2014 21:47:40 GMT
My Guess Sc # 170e 1930 Syncopated Perf White paper  Sc #170d 1937 Syncopated perf Yellowish Paper (some sulpharetting ? sulphidization or sulphurization evident)  |
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Post by PostmasterGS on Dec 29, 2014 1:54:51 GMT
Rod,
These can be difficult to distinguish without side-by-side comparison. And even then, discoloration due to age, soaking, etc., can skew the comparison. Trying to ID them from a scan is usually futile, as variations in brightness of the scan make it difficult to accurately capture white/yellow distinctions.
The easiest way would probably be to compare the paper with the issues that were never issued on the yellowish paper. Of the 9 major issues in this set, 5 (15/20/25/30/40 Pf) weren't issued on yellow, so any copies of those you have have to be white.
Also, the cancel dates on any used copies may help. For the coil perfed copies like those shown above, any cancels pre-Oct 1935 have to be white.
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Post by rod222 on Dec 29, 2014 2:08:54 GMT
Rod, These can be difficult to distinguish without side-by-side comparison. And even then, discoloration due to age, soaking, etc., can skew the comparison. Trying to ID them from a scan is usually futile, as variations in brightness of the scan make it difficult to accurately capture white/yellow distinctions. The easiest way would probably be to compare the paper with the issues that were never issued on the yellowish paper. Of the 9 major issues in this set, 5 (15/20/25/30/40 Pf) weren't issued on yellow, so any copies of those you have have to be white. Also, the cancel dates on any used copies may help. For the coil perfed copies like those shown above, any cancels pre-Oct 1935 have to be white. Thanks Postmaster, advice saved. Yes, I had noticed mint/unused stamps that had been soaked, appeared "very white" v those with gum, that took on a yellowish darker shade. |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 29, 2014 4:58:32 GMT
Danzig : Varieties : Sundry  |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 30, 2014 1:46:28 GMT
Danzig : Postmarks There are 90+ Post Offices existing in Danzig Noted. Langfuhr Oliwa /Oliva Neutiech Zoppot (German for sopot) Grosslichtenau Hohenstein (possibly) Zochanike (part strike) Neukirch (part strike)  Postmark Catalogues $66 and $72 respectively (both sold out)   |
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Post by cjd on Dec 30, 2014 3:34:57 GMT
I don't have either of those catalogs, but I think I should look for them. Older Michel Specialized catalogues list post offices, which is where my list that I collect from comes from. Why Michel scaled back their listings, I'll never know.
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Post by rod222 on Dec 30, 2014 4:02:39 GMT
I don't have either of those catalogs, but I think I should look for them. Older Michel Specialized catalogues list post offices, which is where my list that I collect from comes from. Why Michel scaled back their listings, I'll never know. I do not have them either. CD's of these I would happily fork out circa $20 I wonder if the Philatelists sometimes price themselves out of the market at $70 No argument the work that goes into them demand a fair price. PS : I could find no listing under "Falling Rain" for lists of towns in Danzig Perhaps they list them under Poland. No decent map exists for WW2 names in Danzig either. Guess : Danzig Langfuhr Luftpost Airmail Pmk   |
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Post by cjd on Dec 30, 2014 4:16:25 GMT
Do you want me to check the list, or are you good with your I.D.s?
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Post by rod222 on Dec 30, 2014 7:33:09 GMT
All I have, is what I have gleaned off the internet.
1, I have you may check if poss. Zo ******* ? (Zochanike)
Stutthoff
Bahnpost =rail
Neutich
Jungfor
Hohenstein
Tiegenhof
Heubude
Meisterwalde
Kahlbude
Ausland =Foreign
Neukirch
Tiegenort
NeuFahrwasser
Tiegenhagen
Seepost =maritime
Rambeltsch
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Post by PostmasterGS on Dec 30, 2014 10:38:48 GMT
Rod, It's not quite what you're looking for, but file this site away -- Kartenmeister. It allows you to search by German or Polish name. There's also a good hi-res map of at least a portion of Freie Stadt Danzig. I may have a map of the entire thing, but I won't have access to my references again until after the new year. |
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Post by rod222 on Dec 30, 2014 10:50:31 GMT
Rod, It's not quite what you're looking for, but file this site away -- Kartenmeister. It allows you to search by German or Polish name. There's also a good hi-res map of at least a portion of Freie Stadt Danzig. I may have a map of the entire thing, but I won't have access to my references again until after the new year. Wow! That is nothing short of amazing. Thank you. I donated to the site in appreciation. I can work on my Poland now as well. |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 6, 2015 19:59:21 GMT
1920 Airpost  1923  1923 Note : Be vigilant here. Exist : cliche error ovpt 5 millionen on 10,000  |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 6, 2015 20:07:15 GMT
1937 Semi Postal Miniature Sheet Sc#B21 CV : $60 / $100 Founding of Danzig Community at Magdeburg.  |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 13, 2015 21:35:08 GMT
Officials 1922  |
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Post by Ryan on Jan 14, 2015 14:50:30 GMT
1937 Semi Postal Miniature Sheet Sc#B21 CV : $60 / $100 Wow, you're getting into rare air with catalogue values like that, Sir Rodney! You must have come across quite the Danzig hoard lately, all these fine offerings in your auctions & giveaways. Ryan |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 15, 2015 1:36:29 GMT
Wow, you're getting into rare air with catalogue values like that, Sir Rodney! You must have come across quite the Danzig hoard lately, all these fine offerings in your auctions & giveaways. Ryan Ryan, I didn't intend to deceive,  Not of my collection. I bid on the lot, but was outbid. Because of North American auctions, I have to make a stab, then take my luck, If I stay up for the auction , I end up treading on my eyeballs the next morning. I made a bid of $25 (If I recall CV was around $150) I nearly got it, SOLD for $33 The rest, as you, I have been hoarding for 10 years ( I hadn't discovered Steiner) , then when I mount, I give away / sell the duplicates. |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 15, 2015 1:49:29 GMT
1921 Officials.  |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 19, 2015 18:25:43 GMT
Danzig "Star" Parcel Postmark / Cancellation. Unconfirmed, but perhaps of interest to members.  |
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Post by cjd on Jan 19, 2015 20:01:10 GMT
Here's one I posted on SCF four or five years back:  On a points-down-burelage 5M overprint. Makes for a busy little stamp. |
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Post by rod222 on Jan 20, 2015 0:24:42 GMT
...and it was your post that drew my attention, when I saw the stamp on ebay. Must be difficult determining colour, yours looks like Lilac. Here is what I think maybe grey , points up.  I am surprised Scott do not mention the flag opt, I looked everywhere for it when I first saw it. Had to default to Gibbons  Centre Inverts (Possibly Proofs) Circa 2012  |
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Post by cjd on Jan 20, 2015 4:09:09 GMT
I agree, grey points-up.
In case anyone else reading along wonders what we're talking about, the burelage overprint is found in points-up and points-down orientations. The best way I can describe the difference is to imagine asking a five-year-old child to draw waves on an ocean, and turn the page slightly to the right. The points of the waves will point toward the upper right corner. That would be "points up" burelage. In "points down" the waves point to the lower left. Someone else want to take a shot at a better description?
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Post by rod222 on Mar 9, 2015 8:30:54 GMT
1937 Semi-Postal Stamps Winter Welfare. Presumably all "Favour Cancels"  |
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Post by rod222 on Mar 11, 2015 2:40:49 GMT
Sc# 26b Violet Burelage (Points up) 1ΒΌ mark on 3 Pfennig  1921  |
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Post by rod222 on Mar 11, 2015 2:41:44 GMT
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Post by cjd on Mar 11, 2015 2:46:53 GMT
Love the Danzig. Great stuff.
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Post by rod222 on Mar 11, 2015 8:20:12 GMT
1934 Slogan Cancel on the 25 Pfennig Brosen Beach Red Translation : Would this read "Danzig A Ripe Target ! " ? Thanks.   |
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Post by rod222 on Mar 11, 2015 8:21:46 GMT
1939  Scott's Stamp Monthly, #60 February 1925  |
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Post by Ryan on Mar 14, 2015 15:28:59 GMT
Slogan Cancel on the 25 Pfennig Brosen Beach Red Translation : Would this read "Danzig A Ripe Target ! " ? That's a long S in the German Fraktur script, not an F. So, Reiseziel = travel / holiday destination. There's an excellent German / English dictionary online, much superior to Google Translate for individual words or short phrases - it's LEO, with the lion in the Sherlock Holmes outfit! Ryan |
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Post by cjd on Mar 28, 2015 3:37:31 GMT
Most of these are towns I already had, but I will generally pick up nice strikes of anything that is not a "Danzig" cancel... Oliva:   Tiegenhof:  Praust:  and a new one, to me, Steegen:  |
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