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Post by jamesw on Apr 12, 2015 3:08:09 GMT
I really can't read this one, the script is SOOOOOO terrible. But the use of the umlaut over the o's makes me think Sweden. I guess they've been using these hair brushes for 400 years!
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Post by cjd on Apr 12, 2015 4:25:13 GMT
I'm thinking German...anniversary and August fit with German, but not Swedish. Swedish would be Augusti.
But beyond that, its murder.
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Post by Ryan on Sept 15, 2015 7:17:08 GMT
This is a label from WWII - the text reads "On guard for Sweden". One source I've read says the labels were to support Sweden's neutrality and another source said they were for the benefit of Swedish conscripts. "På post" nonetheless. Ryan
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Post by Mick on Sept 16, 2015 1:38:16 GMT
I really can't read this one, the script is SOOOOOO terrible. But the use of the umlaut over the o's makes me think Sweden. I guess they've been using these hair brushes for 400 years! ... Oh, holy crap I have spent way too much time googling this, but I think that I finally found something. When you first posted this, I drew a complete blank, but today I tried again and I have a start anyway. I won't bore you with the trail of links and searches that lead me to this, but it looks like it celebrates the 400th anniversary of the town of Schoenheide in Erzgebirgskreis, Saxony, Germany. Here is a copy of the coat of arms of the town in the upper right: (from German wikipedia, By Klaaschwotzer (Own work) [CC BY-SA 3.0 (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0)], via Wikimedia Commons) There is apparently a film on festival. I haven't tracked that down, but here is a book and here is a postcard from the event: a dude striding purposefully away from the town, brushes in hand. Man, Schoenheide sure does like their brushes. In fact, wikipedia notes that "Every year in early September, the Bürstenfest (“Brush Festival”) is held..." What is up with them and brushes? Could it be for this patent: "Be it known that I, CARL EDUARD FLEM- MING, a subject of the King of Saxony, residing at Schoenheide, Saxony, Germany, have invented a certain new and useful Improvement Relating to Apparatus for Forming Holes in Brush-Backs by Pressure..." ( link). Apparently there was (hopefully still is) a Fleming factory that manufactures brushes in the town. After all that I still can't even guess at that goofy text in the stamp. Also, I think I need a drink. Edit: whoa there is also a commemorative postmark. OK, I really need to stop now. I am getting obsessed with Schoenheide.
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Post by jamesw on Sept 16, 2015 2:31:32 GMT
Wow Mick. Very cool, you have a lot more patience than I. You win the Golden Research Bunny Award (assuming there was one). Well done, thanks.
Though I guess that means I got the name of this thread wrong....but keep those Swedes coming!
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Post by Ryan on Sept 16, 2015 2:59:57 GMT
I really can't read this one, the script is SOOOOOO terrible. But the use of the umlaut over the o's makes me think Sweden. That script is Sütterlin, the way they used to write in Germany back in the day. There are actually translation firms that will decipher this stuff for you. The Wikipedia page for Sütterlin script has an example of the letters, you can use that as a key to struggle your way through the hieroglyphics shown on your label. Ryan P.S. - if you think that stuff is tough to read, you should try handwritten Sütterlin ....
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Post by jamesw on Dec 31, 2015 19:07:48 GMT
Her Majesty Astrid suggests Sweden to me. Isn't she lovely!?
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Post by cjd on Jan 1, 2016 5:18:11 GMT
Quite certain that is Queen Astrid of Belgium, though she was a Swedish princess prior to marrying the future king of Belgium, so there is a connection. She died young, and was popular in both Belgium and Sweden, so I wouldn't rule out the label originating in Sweden.
With the design elements, I'd go with Belgium, myself.
If anyone thinks this is a different Astrid, speak up...
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Post by rod222 on Jan 1, 2016 5:47:29 GMT
I'd support Belgium.
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Post by jamesw on Jan 1, 2016 22:54:37 GMT
well then, I am unsure of myself. Only glanced at the google response fast enough to catch the Belgian connection. Did find another on ebay in a different colour, but still no country of origin.
edit - I just realized, I 'm not doing too well with this Sweden thread. My first posting was actually a German cindy, and this one is probably Belgian. I sense a pattern beginning.
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Post by rod222 on Jan 2, 2016 0:01:03 GMT
You can never really rule anything out, until the printer is identified, however the weight of circumstantial evidence lies with Belgium.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Jul 21, 2018 19:35:30 GMT
Labels produced by the Swedish Cinderella Stamp Club in 2016. Part sheet. The Club will be hosting the 2nd World Cinderella Congress in Stockholm in June 2019, as part of the International Exhibition 'Stockholmia 2019'. Anyone want to join me for some Philatelic fun ?
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Post by cursus on May 15, 2020 14:24:49 GMT
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Post by philatelia on May 26, 2020 16:33:41 GMT
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Post by cursus on May 26, 2020 16:57:57 GMT
A very nice Swedish cinderella lot. Worthy of hours of research. At TSF we've some Scandinavian friends that, for sure, know at least some of them.
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Post by anglobob on May 26, 2020 17:28:47 GMT
philatelia.....an interesting lot,very nice.Be careful...cinderellas are very addictive..... Anglobob
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Post by Londonbus1 on May 26, 2020 19:57:24 GMT
philatelia........beauties !! I love those with flags especially so the Skandia label stands out !! Now you are tempted ? Yes ?
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Post by stamphinger on May 27, 2020 15:29:47 GMT
Philatelia:
What are the two coins about 3/4 of the way down on the left? Real coins?
Stamphinger
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Post by philatelia on May 27, 2020 15:31:43 GMT
Oooo I did OK then? I spent a few hours last night reading and learning about poster stamps, labels etc - ALL new to me. The poster stamps from the turn of the century looks like a fascinating, fun and colorful area to collect. Ut oh! I’m getting hooked!
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Post by philatelia on May 27, 2020 15:34:19 GMT
stamphinger, these are auction pics, the actual stamps are somewhere in the mail between Scandinavia and my house in Florida. But they appear to be some sort of foil. I’ll let you know once I have them in hand.
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Post by Ryan on May 27, 2020 16:08:15 GMT
Ut oh! I’m getting hooked! I noted with interest the cinderella advertising the 1944 Swedish Championships in slalom skiing in Filipstad. 1944? Still during WWII! But the Swedes were neutral, they had skiing to do and nothing was going to get in the way. It turns out they never missed a year of competition during the war. It also turns out that the Nilsson sisters were fierce! 10 gold medals between them in slalom, and later on younger brother Åke won 4 golds including 2 in slalom. And one of the Nilsson girls married a French World Cup skier, and they had twin daughters who won 7 World Cups each (also fierce), and then one of those women had two daughters who also became World Cup skiers. Ryan
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Post by cursus on Jul 12, 2020 10:58:30 GMT
1941. Father's Day
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Post by cursus on Nov 6, 2020 13:12:26 GMT
Skania (Skaone in Swedish) is the southermost region of Sweden, very close to Denmark, to which it belonged up to early XVIII century ("not so long ago", for European standards). A very nice place that I had the chance of touring a little back on May 2007. 1980 Christmas charity seal, showing XII century Aohus church.
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Post by cjoprey on Nov 8, 2020 10:09:59 GMT
I really can't read this one, the script is SOOOOOO terrible. But the use of the umlaut over the o's makes me think Sweden. That script is Sütterlin, the way they used to write in Germany back in the day. There are actually translation firms that will decipher this stuff for you. The Wikipedia page for Sütterlin script has an example of the letters, you can use that as a key to struggle your way through the hieroglyphics shown on your label. Ryan P.S. - if you think that stuff is tough to read, you should try handwritten Sütterlin .... Took some doing, but with Ryan 's great link to the wikipedia page I figured it out... The top row says "Schönheide, Ergeb." - note that they used the Latin form for the second "e" in "Ergeb" rather than the Sütterlin, making it even harder to decipher. "Ergeb." is short for Ergebirgskreis - the district the town is in. The bottom row says "Sitz der Lüdsten-Industrie". It means "Seat of the Lüdsten industry" - I've not been able to figure out what "Lüdsten" means - I assume something to do with brushes!!!
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Post by cursus on Dec 7, 2020 15:56:17 GMT
Cinderella,issued in 1981 (in booklets of 10) to advertise the Stockholm Postal museum.
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Post by renden on Dec 7, 2020 16:03:08 GMT
Very nice cursus ! It happens a complete BK of 10 "Postmuseum" numbered, of 1981, was included in Londonbus1 's Mystery lot However I do not collect Cinderellas but do appreciate these ones René
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Post by cursus on Dec 7, 2020 16:03:53 GMT
Booklet, printed in 1963 as trial of the 3 colours printing press that was delivered to Swedish Post Printing Works in 1965. It shows the Cathedral of Uppsala, from a gravure by "Master Slania". This, was later (1967) used for the issue of an stamp. Not printed in booklets, but rolls.
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Post by cursus on May 2, 2021 15:57:01 GMT
Xmas 1944:
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Post by cursus on May 17, 2021 15:24:20 GMT
1962 Vasa race
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Post by cursus on Jun 27, 2021 16:44:01 GMT
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