AirmailEd
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Post by AirmailEd on May 3, 2015 19:00:19 GMT
Jerry: Regency-Superior has a Colombia airmail in its June auction that is unlisted in Scott and Sanabria. The A and V in CENTAVOS are transposed and inverted. Regency-Superior shows it as Scott C20 variety. Here it is:  Here it is inverted, showing the two transposed letters more clearly:  Regency-Superior's description of the lot: COLOMBIA (C20 var) 1921 VALOR 30 CENTAVOS ON 50c PALE GREEN, INVERTED & FLIPPED 'AV' Two letters, 'A' & 'V' exchanged and inverted in 'CENTAVOS'. Very rare variety as only two examples are recorded according to Cruz & Bortfeldt, both with similar centering. Highly desirable Colombian airmail variety. Original gum, hinge remnant. Fresh & fine. Genuine, signed twice including Rendon. Normal stamp catalogs $925, with no premium added for error. Do you have a catalog that lists this stamp? If so, could you scan the relevant page? (I hesitate to ask, given your battles with the scanner and Photobucket.  ) Regency-Superior has a minimum price of $500 on this stamp. Not much, given that there are only two. Must be a demand problem. That's outside my budget, or I would bid on it. I think they have offered it previously. Anyone interested can find it at Stamp Auction Network, lot 2585. |
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Jerry B
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Post by Jerry B on May 3, 2015 22:18:09 GMT
Hi Ed
Los Primeros Cincuenta Años de Correo Aereo En Colombia
Eugenio Gebauer y Jairo Londoño
1975
The Air Posts of Colombia
F. W. Kessler
1936
The above agree with Eugenio Gebauer (makes sense as he was involved with all three books)
I hope that some of the above helps. There may be a lot of "weird" overprints according to Gebauer. In general I would trust the opinion of Santiago Cruz and Dieter Bortfeldt.
As far as price, I would have to check around and ask. I have bought from Regency in the past and have been satisfied.
Jerry B
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AirmailEd
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Post by AirmailEd on May 4, 2015 0:28:48 GMT
Thanks, Jerry. I gather that this was probably sold by SCADTA later, and unlikely to have been sold over the counter. Do any of your references even mention this particular error? It had to have been pretty obscure to not make Sanabria.
I don't know much about printing. But it seems really odd that only a couple stamps would have this strange error. Makes you wonder if someone was fooling around.
Who are (were?) Cruz and Bortfeldt? Did they consider it a legitimate stamp, as opposed to something manufactured?
Don't worry about the price. That's out of my range, currently. (And may always be; I'm not getting any richer or younger!)
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Jerry B
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Post by Jerry B on May 4, 2015 7:05:09 GMT
Hi Ed First off. Alex Rendon, who started me collecting Colombia, was associated with Herb Bloch ((old world expert) and Friedl Expert Committee. He did a lot of Colombia expertizing and he was the go to expert for Colombia in the US. Bortfeldt was the expert in Colombia. Cruz is relatively new on the scene and has exhibits on SCADTA. I never met Bortfeldt and I have met Cruz once although I wasn't aware of it. My go to for answers was Debby Friedman who had great exhibits of SCADTA and won many awards. I just remembered, someone gave me a book Cruz and Bordtfeldt collaborated on: Handbook of the SCADTA Provisional Surcharges 1921 - 1923 Published 2004 Bogotá, Colombia On a quick glance I did not see the stamp you show. Since they wrote the definitive book on this issue I would trust their opinion that it is genuine. Besides, if you bought it and had it expertised it would probably end up with Bortfeldt or Cruz, mainly Bortfeldt. www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dieter+bortfeldt+colombiaI am not too surprised. They needed stamps in a hurry and quality control was not as good as today, if existent. I found the link to Debby's Colombia Air Mail auction: www.cherrystoneauctions.com/_auction/index_single.asp?auction=200711Do you belong to COPAPHIL? I was one of the original members (number 12). I got sick and let my membership lapse. I did not re-join as I feel that it got to an elitist status. If you need anything else let me know. Jerry B |
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AirmailEd
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Post by AirmailEd on May 4, 2015 18:24:05 GMT
Hi Ed First off. Alex Rendon, who started me collecting Colombia, was associated with Herb Bloch ((old world expert) and Friedl Expert Committee. He did a lot of Colombia expertizing and he was the go to expert for Colombia in the US. Bortfeldt was the expert in Colombia. Cruz is relatively new on the scene and has exhibits on SCADTA. I never met Bortfeldt and I have met Cruz once although I wasn't aware of it. My go to for answers was Debby Friedman who had great exhibits of SCADTA and won many awards. I just remembered, someone gave me a book Cruz and Bordtfeldt collaborated on: Handbook of the SCADTA Provisional Surcharges 1921 - 1923 Published 2004 Bogotá, Colombia On a quick glance I did not see the stamp you show. Since they wrote the definitive book on this issue I would trust their opinion that it is genuine. Besides, if you bought it and had it expertised it would probably end up with Bortfeldt or Cruz, mainly Bortfeldt. www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dieter+bortfeldt+colombiaI am not too surprised. They needed stamps in a hurry and quality control was not as good as today, if existent. I found the link to Debby's Colombia Air Mail auction: www.cherrystoneauctions.com/_auction/index_single.asp?auction=200711Do you belong to COPAPHIL? I was one of the original members (number 12). I got sick and let my membership lapse. I did not re-join as I feel that it got to an elitist status. If you need anything else let me know. Jerry B This has been really, really helpful, Jerry. I very much appreciate your advice. The Debby Friedman auction site contains a lot of information. I'm going to download and archive it. No, I don't belong to COPAPHIL. I had never heard of it. The only organization I belong to is APS. I only collect stamps; postal history (aka, other people's trash) doesn't interest me. Given the Internet, there's lots of access to knowledgeable people, such as yourself. I belong to The Stamp Forum, StampoRama and STAMPBOARDS.com. Those three boards feature a lot of experienced, knowledgeable people. The folks at APS are also nice and helpful. Again, thanks so much for the enlightening posts. You've been really helpful. |
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Post by Jerry B on May 4, 2015 19:37:45 GMT
Hi Ed
Glad it helped. You are looking at Debbie's SCADTA as a picture. In real life it is more impressive.
Jerry B
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AirmailEd
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What I collect: Worldwide airmail stamps through 1940, unused
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Post by AirmailEd on Jun 10, 2015 21:51:34 GMT
Jerry: Regency-Superior has a Colombia airmail in its June auction that is unlisted in Scott and Sanabria. The A and V in CENTAVOS are transposed and inverted. Regency-Superior shows it as Scott C20 variety. Here it is: Here it is inverted, showing the two transposed letters more clearly: Regency-Superior's description of the lot: COLOMBIA (C20 var) 1921 VALOR 30 CENTAVOS ON 50c PALE GREEN, INVERTED & FLIPPED 'AV' Two letters, 'A' & 'V' exchanged and inverted in 'CENTAVOS'. Very rare variety as only two examples are recorded according to Cruz & Bortfeldt, both with similar centering. Highly desirable Colombian airmail variety. Original gum, hinge remnant. Fresh & fine. Genuine, signed twice including Rendon. Normal stamp catalogs $925, with no premium added for error. Do you have a catalog that lists this stamp? If so, could you scan the relevant page? (I hesitate to ask, given your battles with the scanner and Photobucket. ) Regency-Superior has a minimum price of $500 on this stamp. Not much, given that there are only two. Must be a demand problem. That's outside my budget, or I would bid on it. I think they have offered it previously. Anyone interested can find it at Stamp Auction Network, lot 2585. The Colombian stamp did not sell in Regency-Superior's auction, June 3-7. It had a minimum bid of $500. I believe it had been previously offered. Regency-Superior now has it for sale at $375, plus a 20% premium. |
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