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Post by jamesw on Nov 2, 2015 1:57:14 GMT
Thought this might be a good way to start threads about the stamps of Canadian provinces, before they joined Confederation. Picked up this #10 today, issued 1870. PEI became a province in July of 1873
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Aug 28, 2016 13:13:34 GMT
My new first page with the addition of #1,#2,and #3.Still alot of minor numbers to look for.(sigh)
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Aug 28, 2016 18:37:51 GMT
For the sake of information P.E.I. stamps require attention to perforation measurement.Consult catalog for exact listings but,compound perfs seem to command better.I actually found #1-3 by looking carefully at listings.The perf.9 sticks out if you know that's what to look for.My cost to add those elusive stamps was less than 1/10th catalog.Of course luck plays a considerable part.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jun 1, 2018 20:02:17 GMT
How 'bout a couple P.E.I. imperfs?
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Post by dgdecker on Jun 2, 2018 3:40:42 GMT
Oh wow. Nomething new i ‘ must’ have. Just added to my « want » list. Will start to price and putting away a few bucks for future acquisitions.
thanks for sharing.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jun 2, 2018 6:37:58 GMT
How 'bout a couple P.E.I. imperfs? How about 'em, indeed! Wow, Frog, that is some seriously cool material right there. Like David ( dgdecker), I have also never seen these before, and never really looked closely enough at the catalogue listings to notice that these stamps existed imperforate. So, just out of curiosity, I took a look in my 2008 Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue, and these PEI imperfs, listed and valued mostly as pairs, are not inexpensive items (CV around $100 for each pair). I like the fact that you got margin copies to boot, which sort of adds to their authenticity as imperforate. Anyway, I realize that this is mainly just an "ooh-and-ahh" post by me, but I am just really glad to see a great post from you to brighten the day for all of us, and just wanted to say so!
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Post by Londonbus1 on Oct 3, 2018 16:31:24 GMT
I found these. I've decided the lure of Commonwealth stamps is just too great. So I am going to sell my Cinderellas, pay the owner what is due and continue with the CW collection. Sorry, I must have dozed off. What was I saying ? Oh yes, I found these............all together in the corner of a page.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Nov 20, 2018 22:19:58 GMT
Prince Edward Island Mini-CollectionInspired by firstfrog2013, Londonbus1, and BC, I have decided to post my meager PEI holdings. In relative terms, I suppose that the good news is that I was able to add a few of these stamps from my acquisitions here in Aix, from the 19th Century album pages that I bought. I have combined those recent acquisitions with what I already had to give the resulting group below. These are Scott #4-10, 13, 15-16. It's a bit of a motley crew, but I like these issues quite well, so I am planning to upgrade and improve the overall group, and I will post new images when I do.
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Post by dgdecker on Nov 21, 2018 0:18:29 GMT
Wow, BG. Nice collection. I do not have that many. Though I am working on it.
David
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Nov 21, 2018 3:24:34 GMT
BG very important to measure perfs on those. See the other posts in the thread. I've become intensely interested in acquiring the plate proofs. I passed on a nice lot of six and haven't seen such a lot offered again.
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 13, 2019 17:33:01 GMT
Well it took awhile but watching listings the seller finally marked these down to a price I couldn't turn down.
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Post by renden on Dec 13, 2019 17:45:25 GMT
Bravo to Frog firstfrog2013 - a fine set of PEI proofs - I envy you - René
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Post by WERT on Dec 13, 2019 18:22:47 GMT
Well done firstfrog2013 Very,, very nice.
Robert
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Post by vikingeck on Dec 13, 2019 19:53:57 GMT
Now I note the somewhat notorious Mr Bileski , (whom I recall from the 1970s purveying puffed up treasures from the king Farouk collection of private errors & varieties, and genuine but very common stamps from the FDR collection with certs to greatly inflate the purchase price) is careful to describe these as “reprints”.
So purely in the interests of curiosity can 1940s reprints, albeit from an original die , be called “proofs” ?
A proof is surely an impression pulled before printing so that errors or unsatisfactory details can be checked and amended before the final print. The Scandinavians describe later printings such as these as Nytryk , new prints or after prints.
Whatever, they are interesting and attractive Cinderella’s.
Some will recall the multi coloured Penny reds of GB which were also printed around 1940 for Red Cross funds in Shelley’s with tower bridge. These often appear on eBay cut from the sheets and described as colour trials or even sometimes “proofs”.
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Post by renden on Dec 13, 2019 19:57:48 GMT
Now I note the somewhat notorious Mr Bileski , (whom I recall from the 1970s purveying puffed up treasures from the king Farouk collection of private errors & varieties, and genuine but very common stamps from the FDR collection with certs to greatly inflate the purchase price) is careful to describe these as “reprints”. So purely in the interests of curiosity can 1940s reprints, albeit from an original die , be called “proofs” ? A proof is surely an impression pulled before printing so that errors or unsatisfactory details can be checked and amended before the final print. The Scandinavians describe later printings such as these as Nytryk , new prints or after prints. Whatever, they are interesting and attractive Cinderella’s. Some will recall the multi coloured Penny reds of GB which were also printed around 1940 for Red Cross funds in Shelley’s with tower bridge. These often appear on eBay cut from the sheets and described as colour trials or even sometimes “proofs”. I concur that reprints are not "proofs" - very interesting after re-reading the letter from Bileski - my late dad did business with him.
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Post by WERT on Dec 14, 2019 0:31:05 GMT
Hi vikingeck..Don't be too quick to include older stamps way be the 1940's reprints or the inflation that that Bileski placed on proofs.
these are recognized proof stamps...
Newfoundland - 54 proofs Nova Scotia - 16 proofs Prince Edward Island - Approx. 10 proofs New Brunswick - 17 proofs B.C. - Vancouver - 0 proofs
Here is my example, my Scott 72p Newfoundland "seal Colony" stamp...Below is the proof...
Below is the collage , water colour, pen and ink , blue, red, yellow, black.
die proof , steel engraving on india paper
sheet (100 postage stamps) , plate proof
BTW..Check out the 72P proof stamp on re-entries.com vikingeck.. You are correct... The printer would pull a non perforated, non gummed sheet off the examine before mass printing.
Just hope you are not calling much older stamps Cinderellas... ....
Robert
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Post by dgdecker on Dec 14, 2019 1:34:32 GMT
I pick up six of the PEI proofs a few years ago for £10 in an auction. I got them only because it was something I had never seen . I needed it for my Canada Collection.
David
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Post by renden on Dec 14, 2019 1:39:37 GMT
I pick up six of the PEI proofs a few years ago for £10 in an auction. I got them only because it was something I had never seen . I needed it for my Canada Collection. David I'll trade with you .......joking ! René
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 14, 2019 3:40:39 GMT
well regardless of what you may call them and debate whatever you please but they appealed to my eye and that was the reason I shared them.Less than pleased with the critique but maybe I'm getting old and cranky.
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Post by cjd on Dec 14, 2019 3:53:20 GMT
Lots of eye appeal. They really "pop."
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Post by Londonbus1 on Dec 14, 2019 8:49:14 GMT
Just hope you are not calling much older stamps Cinderellas
If they are valid for postage, then of course not. But if they aren't...........
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Post by vikingeck on Dec 14, 2019 9:51:48 GMT
Oh dear , I do hate to have come across as a party pooper. I do not disparage these items nor your purchase. That was not my intention firstfrog2013 . Of course you were justified in buying these. They have a provenance and a place in any PEI collection. Late pulls in a range of colours from an original die lost for years, they have a history , they are attractive and come with a story , so congrats on having and thanks for showing. WERT , in no way do I knock proofs such as you display. These are most attractive and very important items in a collection telling as they do an vital stage in stamp production. I have one or two in my collection though not as nice as yours. proofs from the production stage are scarce ( they were never intended to get out into the public domain at the time and security was paramount until the postal service was discontinued or the printer sold his archive years later) As such they add immense importance to any specialist collection. My original post was intended only to make two comments 1. we should not call these “proofs” ( but maybe I am pedantic) “reprints from an original die” and 2. Bileski had his own unique marketing agenda ( I have had my fingers singed if not burned in the past)
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Post by renden on Dec 14, 2019 13:30:30 GMT
Some of my New Brunswick authentic proofs, all in Unitrade Catalogue Canada Specialized and well paid for:
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Post by renden on Dec 14, 2019 22:08:51 GMT
Separate scan of proofs:....I have deleted them - just one left - sorry !! New Brunswick
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Post by WERT on Dec 14, 2019 22:41:22 GMT
Rene..While you are looking at your New Brunswick proofs...Take a close look at your 10p and 11p for weird lines, possible re-entries..Below are a couple of samples i have for you to investigate.
Robert
Here is the 11P....
Here is the 10P.....
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Post by renden on Dec 14, 2019 23:38:30 GMT
Mine (those 2) are clean, Robert WERTRene
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Post by gmot on Dec 14, 2019 23:58:37 GMT
Those PEI reprint proofs and the NB ones are both very attractive. Thanks both for sharing them.
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Post by renden on Dec 15, 2019 0:01:03 GMT
Those PEI reprint proofs and the NB ones are both very attractive. Thanks both for sharing them. My wish for X-Mas is to have PEI proofs Rene
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Post by WERT on Jan 2, 2020 17:36:39 GMT
No not do what i did..trying to remove a P.E.I.Scott 11 from a 102 card with tweezers and holding on to the stamp..Ripped the corner..DARN..haha Robert
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Post by philatelia on Jan 2, 2020 18:18:17 GMT
OUCH!!
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