MDS
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Post by MDS on Jan 22, 2016 16:15:58 GMT
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Jan 22, 2016 18:22:05 GMT
The addressee on your Lindbergh cover, A. C. Roessler, was a stamp dealer known for his cacheted covers. The official cachet on the cover was used in concert with homecoming celebrations following Lindbergh's nonstop solo trans-Atlantic flight (New York to Paris) of May 20-21, 1927. Lindbergh returned by ship (USS Memphis), embarking in Cherbourg, France on June 4 and arriving in Washington, DC on June 11. This excerpt is from the American Air Mail Catalog (5th ed.): |
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oldtriguy
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Post by oldtriguy on Jan 22, 2016 20:31:37 GMT
Nice covers! I also like the bi-plane cancels.
I have considered starting a small side collection of Bi-plane cancels.
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MDS
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Post by MDS on Jan 22, 2016 21:06:45 GMT
To all,
Thanks for the comments and the details on Roessler. Wasn't he indicted or arrested for mail fraud at some point?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 23:16:35 GMT
A.C.Roessler probably rewrote a lot of postal history particularly anything to do with airplanes, catapult mail and Canada semi-officials.
Many of his covers are addressed to himself - so they may not be what they appear.
His favourite "cancel" was Dawson Creek seen on the left one below
 
Klondike Airways wasn't around that long and in some cases his letters are postmarked after the company went out of business His covers do fetch some good prices on auctions nonetheless |
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Post by MDS on Jan 31, 2016 3:38:11 GMT
Guys thanks for the follow ups
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lisag
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Post by lisag on Feb 9, 2016 13:48:59 GMT
US Cover Lisa's Collection In case you all haven't noticed, I'm not exactly capable of making things straight. I have MS and straight lines are a bit beyond me. If you all can work with me, I'll keep sharing my skewed images!! I don't know if this cover belongs here because it wasn't sent via airmail, but it is a heck of a cover! Thank you again, bobby1948 !  |
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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Jun 3, 2021 16:35:02 GMT
Funny where searches lead. Collecting Geneva I routinely run into covers for Geneva, New York. This one is cute, six cents and decorated for an inaugural Mohawk Airlines flight. How the sender, who lived in San Francisco, got it to Geneva is a mystery. From there I think it actually flew from Finger Lakes Airport in Seneca Falls to Newark. Two days later it arrived at its false address in Buffalo. Eventually it was ‘returned’ to San Francisco. As often happens, no date stamps for returned mail. The collector, George Daniel Austed checks out; a member of the American Air Mail Society.
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Jun 4, 2021 16:04:52 GMT
@kasvik - To obtain First Flight Covers, interested parties were instructed to mail stamped addressed envelopes in an outer envelope to the postmaster of the departure site with a request they be mailed on the flight, or flight leg. In this case Mr. Austed from California, mailed a batch to the postmaster at Geneva NY with such a request. Likely mailed on the Geneva - Newark leg. The General Delivery address in Buffalo was a convenient holding point for his covers. When not called for at General Delivery they were )1) mailed from Buffalo to Calif, or (2) held at Buffalo for his or his agent's pickup. Why Austed didn't use his Calif address is up for speculation.
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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on May 17, 2023 9:32:14 GMT
Elaborately stamped cover from Honolulu to Geneva by PanAm Clipper in 1937. I have later covers from different American cities to the Geneva Botanical Garden, those from the early 1950s. Requesting seeds? Someone saved the envelopes and they reached the philatelic market.
Twenty cents seems an exceptional bargain for early air mail and much more. The regular PanAm Clipper service was one year old when this was sent on 11 October 1937. This first flew to Oakland, then cross-country also by air mail, normal trans-Atlantic by ship (to Liverpool or Southampton?), rail to London's Croydon Airport, air mail again to Paris and transferred to Geneva.
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Post by paul1 on May 20, 2023 16:33:25 GMT
Not sure if this qualifies as 'classic - please move if I'm in the wrong place - thanks. This cover came with a small Canadian collection recently - is it an FDC? The left hand large rubber stamp reads 'Carried by Col. Chas. A. Lindbergh - Air Mail - Auto Show - St. Louis - Feb. 20th 1928, and the journey is shown as being from St. Louis to Vancouver, and presumably this trip necessitated the 20 cents worth of stamps. The cancellation also reads Feb.20th 1928. Any thoughts please from the other side of the pond, thanks.   |
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Post by carabop on May 22, 2023 22:09:54 GMT
I don’t know a lot about covers but I don’t think it is a FDC as this airmail stamp was issued June 18, 1927. Lindbergh made his first flight on April 15, 1926. So I am assuming it was a letter carried on one of his flights and stamped as such with the rubber stamp.
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Post by paul1 on May 22, 2023 22:19:43 GMT
thanks carabop - I suspect you're correct - you probably know more than me about such things, and I don't see the letters FDC or First Day Cover anywhere, but I am keen on air mail stamps. Anyway, I'll discount this as an FDC then.
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on May 23, 2023 13:08:57 GMT
paul1 , Lindbergh was the chief pilot of Contract Air Mail Route No. 2 which was inaugurated on April 15, 1926 and flew between Chicago, Illinois and St. Louis, Missouri with intermediate stops in Peoria, IL and Springfield, IL. After his return from Paris, Lindbergh embarked on a goodwill tour of the U.S. At his request, he temporarily returned to air mail service February 20 and 21, 1928, carrying mail on his old CAM2 assignment. Your cover began the northbound flight on February 20th; the southbound route was flown on the 21st. The collector and admirer demand for covers was so great that multiple planes and pilots were required to carry the volume. Lindbergh personally flew each plane for at least a portion of the trip. (Source: American Air Mail Catalogue, Fifth Ed., Volume Two, pp. 624-5)
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Post by paul1 on May 23, 2023 13:41:17 GMT
Hi Steve (tomiseksj) - a big thanks for your informative post - I'd certainly not have known remotely that amount of detail - I definitely don't have the catalogue you mention, and this amount of flesh on the bones makes the whole thing come alive. History can be so interesting. This particular cover, together with some WW mix and Canadian covers, is on it's way to Rene - Rene has v. kindly offered to arrange some giveaways for me - I understand Rene is very good at these things, and has a gizmo of some sort that allows for random sampling of entrants to his draws. Looking forward to seeing Rene's skilled several separate offerings for this parcel. How about that for aliteration;-) !!
thanks again Steve.
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on May 23, 2023 14:46:04 GMT
Paul, As luck would have it, these Lindbergh covers are one of the many "somedays" that I have spread throughout my stamp room, waiting for me to have the time (and energy) needed to turn them into articles for the Forum's newsletter. While we have the 7th edition of the AAMC in the Forum's library, my 5th edition copies were at hand. Given the time (and energy), I should check to see if there is any variance between editions. Steve p.s., I'm sure René will do a wonderful job as he's become quite skilled at giveaways! |
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Post by paul1 on May 24, 2023 21:05:55 GMT
coming back to kasviks post re "Elaborately stamped cover from Honolulu to Geneva by PanAm Clipper in 1937", and reference to U.K. Croydon Airport. This U.K. air port closed in 1959, and was mostly active during the heyday of pre WW II 1920s - 1930s aviation - the period of romantic affluent art deco 'Agatha Christie' passengers, and it's connection with the pioneering flights of Amy Johnson, who disappeared mysteriously in 1941, somewhere over the north sea it's believed.
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Post by renden on May 26, 2023 14:41:54 GMT
Showing 3/7 Air Mail covers bought at auction for $2 Canada Air Mail First official flight: Moncton, N.B. to Montreal Dec 9, 1929; Moncton N.B. to Quebec Dec 9, 1929;Saint John, N.B. to Quebec Scott/Unitrade C1 stamp aairmaail stamps on covers  |
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on May 26, 2023 16:09:50 GMT
Given that this thread has lost its U.S. focus, it has been moved from that board to this one. I'll change the thread title accordingly.
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 16, 2023 16:27:33 GMT
Since we are in WORLD WIDE mode , how do I handle this AIRMAIL F DC from India to Burma.? Check the size. A stonking 15 x 10 inches (36.5x 26 cms). Much battered and stained. Impossible to store and display in an album. I’m tempted to cut the stamps out in pairs . Suggestions?  Ps I have only just realised they are pictorial postmarks !  |
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Post by hdm1950 on Aug 16, 2023 16:36:13 GMT
Since we are in WORLD WIDE mode , how do I handle this AIRMAIL F DC from India to Burma.? Check the size. A stonking 15 x 10 inches (36.5x 26 cms). Much battered and stained. Impossible to store and display in an album. I’m tempted to cut the stamps out in pairs . A real dilemma because the used stamps have little value. I would keep it as a cover. I am not sure there is a sheet protector even available big enough to hold it though but if were mine I would at least try and preserve it. |
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Post by Admin on Aug 16, 2023 17:31:01 GMT
Had it been postmarked 2 years earlier I'd strongly encourage you to keep it.
If you aren't interested in keeping, perhaps you can find an India collector who'd like to have it in his or her collection. The largest rigid mailer I've seen on Amazon is 12.75 x 15 inches. Of course, there is no guarantee that the carrier won't fold it in half to fit it in the mail box, as appears to have been the case with the cover.
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Post by mberry on Aug 16, 2023 20:51:22 GMT
I use a portfolio case to hold my large philatelic items. Looks like the brand name is Design NSM. Have had it for years, it was not something I bought, acquired it at work when it was going to be tossed. I work for a company with a large international sales force, when we worked in actual offices we had all sorts of items to carry sales material in.
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Post by salentin on Aug 17, 2023 11:04:52 GMT
I guess,that FDC´s of such early issues might fetch quite high prices in India. Would be a good idea,to contact a dealer or better auctioneer there,before using scissors !
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kasvik
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Post by kasvik on Sept 8, 2023 16:54:39 GMT
I shouldn't have. But I snapped at it because it is fascinating.
This one is purely exclusively ridiculously philatelic. But what a keeper. The sender and signer is ‘Commairdore’ Russell Sabor. It's a busy time here. I haven'r done as much digging as I'd like. So far I've only found Sabor was a Minneapolis salesman who made a hobby of being among the first passengers on PanAm Clipper flights. This was the first passenger flight on FAM 18. I gotta do some research on this man. He was too crazy to leave alone. Anybody cross his path before?
Departure cancel: New York N.Y. Jun28 1030AM 1939, on a 30c C24, the stamp issued for this flight.
Arrival (reverse) Marseilles Bouches du Rhone 3.45 2(9) 7(!) 1939
Return cancel Marseilles Capucines de Rhone (30 June?) 1939, on a Y&T 393 and 458 for Fr 2.35, the most common combination for this flight.
The envelope, appropriately enough, was printed in Minneapolis, first in 1929. Was Sabor responsible for those, too?
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Post by tomiseksj on Sept 8, 2023 21:32:41 GMT
"CommAIRdore" strikes me as a self-appointed title. Very little on the internet about Sabor. Good luck in your quest.
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Post by cursus on Sept 9, 2023 6:14:39 GMT
February 1991: Estonian SSR to Canada, with cinderella remembering the proclamation of the 1st Estonian republic in 1918.
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Post by stamphinger on Sept 9, 2023 17:11:10 GMT
@kasvik Russell Sabor worked for a industrial cleaning products company in Dubuque, Iowa. He may have been a chemist at the company or a salesman of its products. In 1933, Russell Sabor was commemorated on a cinderella souvenir sheet called Sabor of the Midlands. He probably designed the sheet. Sabor of the Midland stamps exist in a variety of formats and colors, perf'ed, impert, sheets, and souvenir sheets. All formats are common and seen frequently on eBay. The prices asked for them are sometimes out of sight. Don't buy those if you have a hankering for some of them. Look for some that are lower priced. I have a few of the cinderellas in my Iowa collection and hope someday to find one on cover. Here are a couple of links to threads about the Sabor issues on another forum. I seem to remember posting a page or two of my cinderellas on this forum. A search of Sabor of the Midlands should turn it up.
I doubt that Sabor is still living, so a person should be able to get a copy of his American Philatelic Society membership application from APS headquarters. It should provide some basic biographical information.
Also, Google Sabor of the Midlands and you should find more information about the cinderella issue.
As for the cover you posted., Sabor did not design or have it printed. If you turn it over, there should be a printing note near the bottom center indicating that it was copyrighted by Carl M. Becken who was a stamp/coin dealer in Minneapolis. Examples of this cover also are frequently seen on eBay and variations of the design exist. I remember commenting on the design variations on this forum too, probably in the thread Show Your Airmail Covers with Different Borders.
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Post by kasvik on Oct 23, 2023 23:53:13 GMT
New acquisition; a picture of aerial euphoria. A French-made post card from 1912--featuring a patriotically appropriate Bleriot--with our pilot embracing an allegorical delight, while cupid does the driving. The best image I've ever seen of what flying is all about. It appears to be a photo of a wire and clay model, with a painted background.
It came up in on Hip Stamps in a search for Pforzheim. Sent from Stuttgart to Ellmendingen, a Baden village one valley west of Pforzheim, addressed to 'Dear Frida!' The rest is impossible; written in Sütterlin, the famously simplified but still impossible script that I'll never crack. Anybody do any better? The stamp appears to be stuck in one of those 'Do you still love me?' cutie codes. Reminds me of Dorthy Parker's response to Winnie the Poo. But it looks like Frida and Karl were in love. Nothing anyone could do.
Nice restaurant in Ellmendigen today, Landgasthof Löwen. If you're near Pforzheim...
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Post by stamphinger on Oct 24, 2023 16:20:49 GMT
Great card, kasvik! Early members of the Mile High Club???
Don
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