cara
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Post by cara on Oct 13, 2021 20:43:20 GMT
But now I have another problem which I can not solve with my lamps, wet print and dry print. I searched in the TSF forum and I found some posts, but honestly not very helpful (or may be I did not understand these posts). Explanation in my Michel is: Stamps with dry print are more glossy and brighter, the paper is more thick, therefore the dry print looks clearer and sharper Thanks cara In my Canadian UNITRADE Canada Sppecialized (our bible) wet and dry are well explained and following explanations, you see a difference in width of design, wet being somewhat (in mm) narrower (width). René Hi René, thanks for the explanation. I tried to identify a difference in width of design with my Scott # 1035. I think my roundabout 50 to 70 stamps are all wet ... or dry . No difference in width of design what I can measure.
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 13, 2021 20:53:52 GMT
The sorting continues, though now I have stared going back and arranging in "catalogue" order. Whether I get to number each is still a maybe- pages are labelled by year and that should be good enough with a catalogue by my side.
I have completed and printed out a couple of pages which I may take a break from sorting this afternoon and mount stamps so they can be placed into the album/binder.
Maybe by next week I will have all loose stamps of France finally put "away"!
The weather is turning colder, even had a few rain drops this morning. Went to jury duty this morning and while I was in line outside the building waiting to be checked in and go throiugh security, everyone still outside was released and told tyo go home (this was a time it was good to be near the back of the line!!!). I am now doen with jury duty, by the time I get called agasin I will be exempt (over 70)
Happy stamping
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renden
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Post by renden on Oct 13, 2021 21:02:42 GMT
In my Canadian UNITRADE Canada Sppecialized (our bible) wet and dry are well explained and following explanations, you see a difference in width of design, wet being somewhat (in mm) narrower (width). René Hi René, thanks for the explanation. I tried to identify a difference in width of design with my Scott # 1035. I think my roundabout 50 to 70 stamps are all wet ... or dry . No difference in width of design what I can measure. Scott 1035 does not exist in wet/dry as it is litho 5 colours.....we do not see that in newer CANADA stamps - you would see that on the "Admiral" series up to #134 + MR1-MR4 after which they talk about Types (2 types for MR3 and MR4) etc
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cara
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What I collect: Germany (FRG, GDR, Berlin); occupied Germany 1945-1949, Deutsches Reich 1872-1945, Switzerland, USA (newbie)
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Post by cara on Oct 13, 2021 21:16:22 GMT
Hi René, thanks for the explanation. I tried to identify a difference in width of design with my Scott # 1035. I think my roundabout 50 to 70 stamps are all wet ... or dry . No difference in width of design what I can measure. Scott 1035 does not exist in wet/dry as it is litho 5 colours.....we do not see that in newer CANADA stamps - you would see that on the "Admiral" series up to #134 + MR1-MR4 after which they talk about Types (2 types for MR3 and MR4) etc hmmm ... I'am confused. Only to be sure that we talk about the same stamp. Scott # 1035 is the Statue of Liberty in purple (Michel # 656). And Michel says that this stamp exists in wet and dry. (Michel # 656Aw and 656Ax).
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Mr. H
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Post by Mr. H on Oct 13, 2021 21:19:02 GMT
Been working on Argentina, saw the binder and decided to get it updated. I've got about 3,000 or so to sort before I can start to identify them.
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renden
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Post by renden on Oct 13, 2021 21:34:17 GMT
cara .......We are both confused as we have not specified the Country I was in my CANADA cat.
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Post by Admin on Oct 13, 2021 21:41:27 GMT
... I'am confused. Only to be sure that we talk about the same stamp. Scott # 1035 is the Statue of Liberty in purple (Michel # 656). And Michel says that this stamp exists in wet and dry. (Michel # 656Aw and 656Ax). This is why posts such as this and those that preceded it are best made in the applicable regional board.
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bobstew617
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Post by bobstew617 on Oct 14, 2021 0:16:59 GMT
I have been working quite a bit on DENMARK, and speaking of that Scandinavian country, just picked this up:
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angore
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Post by angore on Oct 14, 2021 9:55:03 GMT
cara Here is a link to explain wet / dry printings. Wet printed stamps tend to look over inked compared to dry printings. On mint stamps with gum, one clue for wet printing can be residue ink on back side (set off) or blotchiness of the fine engraved lines. Many of the LIberty series were printed using both methods. The other varieties are large / small perforation holes and tagging . stampsmarter.org/learning/Manuf_WetDryPrintingMethods.html
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cara
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Post by cara on Oct 14, 2021 16:10:42 GMT
Thank you angore that is a great link and good examples. I think that will help.
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renden
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Post by renden on Oct 14, 2021 17:15:30 GMT
Thank you angore that is a great link and good examples. I think that will help. Sorry I didn't help answer your "USA" question and went to my Canadian Cat to check the number - Very nice of Angore to help. I read the StampSmarter link and the text does mention the size differences of Wet VS Dry printing + other technical stuff that I probably read when doing Inventory of US stamps. Our members are quite helpful indeed - René
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angore
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Post by angore on Oct 15, 2021 10:21:30 GMT
Size differences are a factor in rotary vs flat plate printings. Most Liberty issues were rotary.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Oct 15, 2021 10:52:15 GMT
My wife had gathered a small collection of Victorian Valentines cards . I have just opened the box file and am starting to list these for sale some of these were very elaborate. This one by Mansell with embossed lace paper , chromos, silk ( deteriorating ) dates from around 1850-1860 [img src="" style="max-width:100%;" alt="" src="http://i.ibb.co/0hvxkyy/6535-B027-2151-4-C01-9-FF0-D3-B9690-C7991.jpg"][/url]
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JeffS
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Post by JeffS on Oct 15, 2021 13:42:41 GMT
Size differences are a factor in rotary vs flat plate printings. Most Liberty issues were rotary. Ahh, ALL Liberty Series are rotary.
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 16, 2021 0:10:08 GMT
I have just finished sorting ALL France commemoratives into a binder, by year, and then by catalogue order/ All that remains is a small pile of definitives which are all common (or I would have pulled aside) and they may stay in the bowl awhile! I also separated everything from 1981 forward (which is a lot) as this is after my cut off... this is later than I had originally thought, but I got caught up in the Red Cross booklets and have them up to 1983.... (oh dear)
Now to focus back on making pages and how to lay-out, including paper types, colors, print variant and even some nice cancels (now that i know what i actually have)
I have all my perfins separated, but will likely give them page(s) of their own-
and next some housekeeping is sorely needed
Have a great weekend everyone!
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 17, 2021 0:38:51 GMT
I was going to leave the pile of France definitives where they were, but sorted them out and put them away.
I also made a spread sheet of the France coat of arms stamps which encompasses 1943 - 1968 and 59 individual stamps and a great many varieties.
i have some pages printed and will get those mounted and into the binder before tackling the task of organizing the coat of arms (they are plentiful....) I think i will display them (Coat of Arms) together as there is better continuity (IMHO) there are several with two different denominations which makes more 'cents" to me to have together, rather than pages apart
AND did I mention varieties?!?
and to all a pleasant evening!
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angore
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Post by angore on Oct 17, 2021 10:07:23 GMT
The Machin pairs on a perforated looking sheet is an interesting paste up.
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angore
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Post by angore on Oct 19, 2021 10:56:04 GMT
I finished mounting stamps from Kenya and KUT.
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 22, 2021 17:27:17 GMT
Now that I finally sorted most all* of France by year and somewhat by catalogue sequence I have started making pages so i can get the 'keepers' mounted.
* I still need to get all the coat of arms stamps in chronological order (there are a lot of them!)
Rain, rain and rain (which is good) and snow in the higher elevations- maybe we'll get out of our drought!
Happy stamping
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Oct 23, 2021 15:42:07 GMT
Had a visit today from a lady wanting to have advice on her late Dad’s collection. Spent pleasant hour and a half chatting as I struggled to get enthusiastic over the albums. Dad had a subscription to an outfit in the 1980s producing fancy written up coffee table albums ( which cost more than the stamps contained therein). The Sumner Collection. 1980 was the boom time in the get rich quick “invest in stamps” era , when new collectors were persuaded by fancy adverts to buy these ready made up albums for Royal,Wedding, Jubillee, and dubious accumulations of mundane but sometimes pretty covers . Expensive to buy and now almost impossible to sell . Now I have to find a way to sell these for her .
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Oct 23, 2021 18:00:49 GMT
If I were within driving distance, I might have a look and take them off you, but I'm afraid the shipping costs would not be worth it otherwise...
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Post by biglavalamp on Oct 23, 2021 18:25:04 GMT
vikingeck I remember that era well ...it was when I took a subscription with Benham,s Stamps for GB first day covers they pushed as a big selling point as I remember they tried to match unique postmarks related to the stamp issue which I fell for hook line and sinker,although they were nice to look at.... as a investment they were pretty poor bet particularly there silk covers.
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hdm1950
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Post by hdm1950 on Oct 23, 2021 20:25:49 GMT
Had a visit today from a lady wanting to have advice on her late Dad’s collection. Spent pleasant hour and a half chatting as I struggled to get enthusiastic over the albums. Dad had a subscription to an outfit in the 1980s producing fancy written up coffee table albums ( which cost more than the stamps contained therein). The Sumner Collection. 1980 was the boom time in the get rich quick “invest in stamps” era , when new collectors were persuaded by fancy adverts to buy these ready made up albums for Royal,Wedding, Jubillee, and dubious accumulations of mundane but sometimes pretty covers . Expensive to buy and now almost impossible to sell. Sadly I have seen this situation way too often Alex. Having spent a few decades in the collectables and antique business and so many dealers knowing I was a stamp collector they were often referring clients to me who had collections they wanted to sell or have valued. The vast majority ended up being things like you shared today. Most every postal service in the world pushes these subscriptions. As long as they are bought for the joy of collecting they are fine but as an investment not so much. Here in Canada the wholesale market for mint lots of corner blocks and full sheets is down to less than .70 on the dollar. First Day Covers are almost impossible to move.
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Oct 23, 2021 21:13:09 GMT
Just started on one stock book which seemed worthy of a closer examination ( ie it was full of stamps - not a glossy coffee table show off book)
So far extracted £35 face GB which I will pay her 75% face for postage. , I will give her £8 for an almost new stock book which I can use. I have now re arranged my postage stockbook which is falling to bits and integrated the new GB in value order into the new purchase.
There seems to be an almost complete run of MNH Netherlands from 1980-1987 so as they were all jumbled up I have re arranged on stock sheets in issue order ready to check against catalogue with a view to offering these for sale as a collection. Three hours work means stop and have a break before bed time.
Tomorrow I will value and price up,
There is a modest GB collection with the occasional Victorian including a decent 3 margin penny black…………The stamp club will have an auction at Christmas and a bigger sale in March so there surely will be some lots to prepare.
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 23, 2021 23:24:00 GMT
A productive day- some tasks completed in preparation for a large (forecast) storm, which they say hasn't occurred since 1909 (?!?)... could be a wild night
and completed a number of pages for France (posted in the France 'forum/subfolders) including stamps mounted!! progress is good
Glad to no longer be sorting stamps!!!
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stanley64
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Post by stanley64 on Oct 24, 2021 10:22:22 GMT
Here in Canada the wholesale market for mint lots of corner blocks and full sheets is down to less than .70 on the dollar. First Day Covers are almost impossible to move. I agree, the First Day Covers produced by Canada Post since it incorporation as Crown entity and its dominating the FDC cover market put many a small cachet aside, but there are still a number of collectors. The American First Day Cover Society and the First Day Covers Study Group of the British North American Philatelic Society ( BNAPS) are very much active.
However, I think that for many of us collecting FDCs, we are looking for those covers produced by smaller cachet makers or with more specialised features including errors.
1984 Canada Locomotive Series, 32¢ Countess of Dufferin with Ferdinand (Fred) Oelhaupl cachet.
1985 Transportation Coil Series, 8.3¢ Plate n.º1 with Ambulance Colorano "Silk" Cachet
My own current collecting interests include both Canada's Locomotive and the USA Transportation Coil series with plate number and whilst the more 'common' material may be impossible to move, all too often I am outbid for covers like these...
Happy collecting!
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 24, 2021 19:42:53 GMT
Tackling France Mercury series.... I've spent much of the morning and have gotten up through 20 centimes. including completing nad printing out 2 pages (I'll wait a bit this time before I mount the stamps... maybe catch the obvious typo ahead of time Top right stamp inside frame, top right, broken on left and completely missing right half (starting above crest of wing)! Not listed... but it's different than the rest!
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renden
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Post by renden on Oct 24, 2021 19:45:26 GMT
Stan stainlessb....very persistent keep on the nice work !! René
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