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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 11, 2013 11:20:49 GMT
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 11, 2013 14:57:48 GMT
Let's go back a little farther...to circa 1868. This advertising cover is from the Cincinnati Home Fire Insurance Company which billed itself as "the leading fire insurance company of the West." It is franked with a 3c rose Washington with E grill (Scott 88) tied with a blue killer and postmarked Crown Point, Indiana on February 22.  It is unfortunate that a previous owner chose to write a valuation on the face.  There is nothing of note on the cover's reverse other than some soiling and two hinge marks. |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 11, 2013 20:40:05 GMT
Lovely cover! You know this already but you can usually erase those with a soft eraser and gentle hand.
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Post by Zuzu on Aug 11, 2013 22:14:14 GMT
Finally a thread I can add to! This came in a big box of stamps and whatnot that I found on ebay. I was expecting kiloware from the 1980s, so this was an amazing surprise! (Click images for larger versions.)  (The scan is cut off on the right for some reason.)  Reverse The best part? The contents:  Ad form letter  Personal letter typed on the reverse But wait! There's more!  Letter requesting a "review" of the product  And the response thereto, on the reverse |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 11, 2013 22:43:49 GMT
Advert covers: OK, as you probably already know I have piles of this kind of stuff so I'll post some here. I actually have a full binder of tobacco related covers and contents I get around to posting someday. Here is two for now.   Some Pennsylvania government stuff:   Gre-solvent One of my favorite advert covers! Front:  Back:  The product:  actual ad:  Coffee advert Front:  Back:   OK That's enough from me for now..lol |
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Post by spain1850 on Aug 11, 2013 23:02:58 GMT
Does an advertising cover have to have some kind of graphic or picture related to the company, to be considered an advert. cover?
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 11, 2013 23:07:42 GMT
From the U.S. Stamp Society's Glossary of Terms:
Let me pose this question: Is a cover, such as the one below, with a corner card that describes the product or service of the sender considered an advertising cover?
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 12, 2013 2:41:46 GMT
Here is another of my Tobacco related covers & contents: Here are some contents of some of my other tobacco advert covers: |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 12, 2013 10:32:30 GMT
This is a rather amazing thread, beautiful stuff, hard to take it in, all at once.
A great resource for the student studying specific enterprise.
It sort of notates part of the industrial revolution.
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 12, 2013 11:45:59 GMT
Here is another of my Tobacco related classic period advert covers with contents.  |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 12, 2013 12:28:23 GMT
Here is one more exploded layout of one of my Tobacco related classic advert covers. |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 12, 2013 13:01:46 GMT
Here is what full pages in my Vario lighthouse binders look like. (un-exploded)  |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 12, 2013 13:02:39 GMT
And another from my collection: |
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Post by spain1850 on Aug 12, 2013 16:33:37 GMT
I must say the designs on old advertising envelopes are beautiful, especially the letterheads that go with them. I've not gotten into these before but I did manage to find this one in my cover box. It's a bit tattered, but it's also a postage due cover, which is probably why I initially kept it.  |
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Post by rod222 on Aug 12, 2013 16:41:13 GMT
That's a ripper Spain 1850,
I esp like the use of the precancel to settle the due! exceptional.
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 12, 2013 17:42:40 GMT
Wow Spain that's awesome! I don't have any on "cover" but have about a hundred on postal receipts. I need to change that soon. Great piece!
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Post by spain1850 on Aug 12, 2013 18:45:41 GMT
Wow, thanks!
Something else I just noticed. What I thought was just someone penciling notes or something in the lower left corner is actually the name of the sender? Maybe?
It looks like J.N. Armstrong, Baileyton TENN, R.5 (Route 5?)
Not sure what the "2=days" indicates right above that.
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Post by Zuzu on Aug 12, 2013 18:56:02 GMT
Not sure what the "2=days" indicates right above that. My guess is that it indicated the sender's desire to have the item returned if not claimed within 2 days (although that does seem like an awfully short time). If you skim the other posts in this thread, you'll see similar remarks printed on the covers - usually 5 days or 10 days. |
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 12, 2013 18:58:31 GMT
I must say the designs on old advertising envelopes are beautiful, especially the letterheads that go with them. I've not gotten into these before but I did manage to find this one in my cover box. It's a bit tattered, but it's also a postage due cover, which is probably why I initially kept it. Interestingly, the USPS' post office listing doesn't show Baileyton, TN but it does have a listing for a Bailey established September 2, 1870 and discontinued June 30, 1953. Absence from the list could simply mean that the post office hasn't been researched. Jim Forte's listing for Tennessee has a Baileytown operating from 1892 to 1937 and a Baileyton Rur. Sta. from 1937 to present. |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 12, 2013 23:29:12 GMT
You think Jim would want to see that for cataloging purposes perhaps?
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 12, 2013 23:47:44 GMT
You think Jim would want to see that for cataloging purposes perhaps? He might. My guess is that the CDS was a variant used by the Baileytown post office. |
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Post by spain1850 on Aug 13, 2013 5:51:01 GMT
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 13, 2013 13:18:51 GMT
I just did a quick search of the U.S. Postal Bulletins using Baileyton as a search term. It appears that the Baileyton post office was previously named Laurel Gap -- the name change was reported in Bulletin 3646 of February 15, 1892. At the time of the name change, Gilbert N. Bussell was the postmaster. The earliest mention of the Laurel Gap post office was an announcement that Andrew Bruner was appointed postmaster in 1881. On November 30, 1937, 4th class service and Star Route service to Baileyton were discontinued. On December 1, 1937, Baileyton Rural Station (No. 57811) was established as a tributary to the post office at Greenville, TN. The next postal bulletin reference to Baileyton, TN (note that there was also a Baileyton, Alabama) occurred in 1998 when it was reported that service to the community post office (a station or branch of the Greenville post office) was being discontinued. |
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Post by spain1850 on Aug 16, 2013 18:00:22 GMT
Just got an email back from Jim Forte in which he states that Baileytown was simply misspelled on his site and is now corrected as Baileyton.
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 17, 2013 6:14:05 GMT
Cool!
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Post by tomiseksj on Aug 18, 2013 20:14:28 GMT
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 18, 2013 21:07:54 GMT
Here is a neat cover & contents from the W.M. Campbell Branch Midland Grocery Co. Dated: Feb.27, 1925  |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 18, 2013 21:14:36 GMT
Here is 2 more for you..  |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 18, 2013 21:21:13 GMT
Of all Detroit tobacco entrepreneurs, one stands out — Daniel Scotten. Scotten started in the tobacco business in 1852 as a 33-year-old apprentice to Detroit tobacconist Isaac Miller. Sleeping at the shop and saving his money, Scotten eventually was able to finance his own enterprise which he opened to his eventual good fortune just before the Civil War. Scotten moved his enterprise to a large factory on West Fort Street in the latter half of the 19th century, when its name was changed to the Scotten-Dillon Company to reflect the addition of a corporate partner. By the 1890s the company had 1.200 employees, a weekly payroll of $8,000, and $4 million in annual sales. Daniel Scotten was involved in a variety of outside interests even into his late 70s. Possessing a peculiar horror of railways and railroad travel, he insisted on carrying on his farflung business affairs by means of his horse-drawn private coach. Scotten invested in Detroit commercial real estate to such an extent that at the time of his death in 1899 he owned nearly 2,500 city plots, the Hotel Cadillac, and business blocks along Gratiot and Randolph Streets. He left to his heirs a $7 million estate and to the Detroit Public Library his 20,000-volume private library of rare volumes. Pictured are three products of the Scotten-Dillon Company: two versions of Pep Cigarette Tobacco and one of Ramrod. There is a stamp mentioning a date in 1926, so these would have been produced sometime after. I think the Pep design is really quite successful. www.oldstuffonly.com/items/Tobacco-Labels/list.htmScotten - Dillon Tobacco Co. Tobacco Wrappers:
  My Scotten Dillon advert cachet & corner-card Tobacco Co. & Bill-head: The Cover: The Contents (unfurled): The Cachet/Advert: The Postmark: Postal stationery # Type #
Watermark #Edward Schultz's information - Apparently Edward Schultz was a Tobacconist according to a Federal Census of 1880.
Edward Schultz:
Sidney City,
Shelby County,Ohio
Age 18 @ Census year 1880.
Birth year: 1862,
Birthplace: Ohio,
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Tobacconist/ Cigar Maker/ House keeper
Father's Name: Henry Schultz
Father's Birthplace: Holland/Bavaria
Mother's Name: Caroline Schultz
Mother's Birthplace: Ohio search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=6742&path=Ohio.Shelby.Sidney.206.11&sid=&gskw=Edward+Schultz |
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Post by I.L.S. on Aug 18, 2013 21:27:09 GMT
Not nearly as fancy as the others but I like them.  |
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