blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Sept 10, 2019 16:25:49 GMT
Looking great René!! Very nice Air Mail pages. You're welcome for all the dups, glad they found such a good caretaker!!!!
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hrdoktorx
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Post by hrdoktorx on Sept 14, 2019 12:27:02 GMT
Received today, YT#35 & MiNr. 19c, Emperor Napoleon III with no laurel crown, green on bluish paper:  |
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Post by hrdoktorx on Sept 25, 2019 19:01:57 GMT
Received today, part of the latest set of "French Philatelic Heritage" souvenir blocks, this one featuring a reprint of the 1Fr vermilion from 1849:  |
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renden
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Post by renden on Sept 25, 2019 21:46:18 GMT
Received today, part of the latest set of "French Philatelic Heritage" souvenir blocks, this one featuring a reprint of the 1Fr vermilion from 1849: Love it, Xavier hrdoktorx !! René |
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Sept 29, 2019 10:37:13 GMT
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Sept 29, 2019 10:54:23 GMT
Wow! The colors are simply amazing. I can’t think of any other country whose early issues use such bright, vivid colors.
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renden
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Post by renden on Sept 29, 2019 13:49:27 GMT
I have this weekend started my journey into the stamps of France  Bathed the Ceres and Napoleon and roughly sorted them, but with a forum full of experts I ask for help. I have put a number on each row to be easier to ref to a certain stamp. Glad for any help, forgery, postmark, type and so on. I started to put a number under each stamp, but that might be a wrong number so I stop. All stamps are scanned in 1200dpi, click on imasge and you come to the host and there it should be possible to get full resolution. tobben amazing "oldies" from FRANCE - do not have as many (I think). Which catalog will you be using for your "sorting".....Maury or Y&T ? btw it is impossible for me to give you "types" and/or varieties based on scans - I need the stamp "live" !! I have just finished more than 3 months of FRANCE inventory (as you probably know and posted some pages) using Scott and Maury.....do not bother with Scott......the "french catalogs are better" René |
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Sept 29, 2019 16:51:48 GMT
renden René I don't use Scott for anything  . Michel is my main catalogue, but I use colnect.com witch has all the big catalogue numbers. See example below. 
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 29, 2019 17:05:10 GMT
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renden
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Post by renden on Sept 29, 2019 17:50:01 GMT
renden René I don't use Scott for anything . Michel is my main catalogue, but I use colnect.com witch has all the big catalogue numbers. See example below.
Thanks tobben ! I have not studied colnect very much lately since you gave me the instructions. I have Scott e-catalog Classic 2019 and have noticed I prefer paper catalogs instead of computer ones - faster to work with and am very happy with MAURY 2017 bought on the advice of Jon (blaamand) and could not work on such catalog if it was electronic (computer).
René
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Post by rjan55 on Sept 29, 2019 20:29:42 GMT
I will be looking for the 'K' for 'N' variety in my accumulations. Thanks for the note.
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renden
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Post by renden on Sept 29, 2019 20:50:59 GMT
Hi rjan55 !! Are you an avid collector of FRANCE ? I am and have finished inventory of 1,556 stamps starting with the Émission Cérès series up to the more modern ones using Maury and Scott catalogs René |
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Sept 30, 2019 9:42:09 GMT
tobben63 - thats a fine selection of early French!! I am away into the wilderness, but will take a better look when I'm home with my PC.
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Post by stainlessb on Sept 30, 2019 13:39:29 GMT
tobben63 a nice variety for study!! I am by no means much of an expert, but I have been looking at a lot of these lately Even clicking on the images I cannot get the image to enlarge so i can really see the stamps, but I can see the following for your cancelations see fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_bureaux_de_poste_français_classés_par_oblitération_Gros_Chiffres (example Row 3, stamp 4 cancellation 602 Brassac-les-Mines) Row 2 - too small to tell which type, but none appear to be Type II (I've only found 4 Type II's so far) or if they are 1870 Siege issue or the 1871 Bourdeaux... and there is the petits and grands chiffre Rows 8 & 9 images too small to see if they are the Type I or Type II (Type I most common) But I see hours of fun in your future!! Please post your findings!!
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on Sept 30, 2019 16:40:20 GMT
I will be back with what I find. Tomorrow i will lend a yvert or Murray catalogue at my local stamp club if they have one.
Today I do something totally different (Swedish stamps)
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renden
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Post by renden on Sept 30, 2019 16:50:42 GMT
I will be back with what I find. Tomorrow i will lend a yvert or Murray catalogue at my local stamp club if they have one. Today I do something totally different (Swedish stamps) Tobben I use Maury 2017 catalog and love it - This catalog follows dates of issue of any of FRANCE stamps so it does not do compartments like Scott that has AirPost, Semi-Postals, Revenues etc....Maury lists them all by date (different) Good luck René |
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 17, 2019 0:23:03 GMT
Liberty & Peace 1900 - 1929 but the colors don't seem quite correct- I believe this is an earlier version as no lavender... The one one right appears to really be on a yellowish-tan paper. Despite having multiple references..... i'm not having much luck on this- Anyone!?? 
The one on the left- the yellowish background (below POSTES) whereas the one on the right seems more uniform |
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Post by rjan55 on Oct 17, 2019 0:48:12 GMT
Liberty & Peace 1900 - 1929 but the colors don't seem quite correct-
I believe the stamp on right seems a bit aged and abused. It is not a good example for comparision on these issues.
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 17, 2019 0:54:42 GMT
It may be oxidation(?)... but of an uncommon type- most i have are similar to the one on the left- the back of the stamp (rt)is very consistent in color (there is even a fair amount of gum left)...perhaps it was on a yellowish brown envelope (?) which 'bled' dye....
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renden
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Post by renden on Oct 17, 2019 12:39:01 GMT
Liberty & Peace 1900 - 1929 but the colors don't seem quite correct- I believe this is an earlier version as no lavender... The one one right appears to really be on a yellowish-tan paper.
The one on the left- the yellowish background (below POSTES) whereas the one on the right seems more uniform - looked and scan 2 of my 50c Type MERSON 1st one is the Scott 123 - MAURY 120 bis brown (note the lavender and fressness of stamp) 2nd is MAURY 120 -g GC paper bis brown and lavender still present but the paper makes it greyish Yours seem oxydized and the lavender does not show at allRené   |
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 18, 2019 12:48:38 GMT
before and after a bath in H2O2 (60 minutes)  brighter,but no lavender. i do notice Y & T calls out colors as brown and gray  The perfin is (I believe) the GC paper variety |
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renden
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Post by renden on Oct 18, 2019 12:52:46 GMT
stainlessb I think you are right about the GC paper and I would not have putt any $ on the lavender coming back - some of mine do not have much lavender too so you have the 120 -g variety ! (Maury) René
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 18, 2019 20:35:46 GMT
Here's the "better" examples of Merson's I have bottom right corner I am guessing was wartime occupation??  |
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renden
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Post by renden on Oct 18, 2019 21:16:39 GMT
stainlessb Your scans include: M144 60c -G Dark purple (variety) M121 1f 3 samples, 1 oxydized M145 2f orange and green M122 2f violet and yellow M123 5f blue and yellow M206 3f violet and blue stainlessb....overprint is from Memel and you will see Xavier's nice scan of these overprints !! So you have some nice ones, Stan René
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 18, 2019 22:13:49 GMT
renden René somewhere I have the 20Fr I will likely just place all of this series on one (or maybe two) pages , rather than interspersed based on date of issue with others and I have lots of 40c and 50c, so may have something even a bit better in quality. The oxydized 1 Fr = row above on the right? If so, that has had the perf cut into (trimmed a bit too close) and one or two have paper on the backs so much to do.... Thanks for checking! Stan
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Post by renden on Oct 18, 2019 23:14:14 GMT
MEMEL on Merson.....I have yet to find # etc stainlessb .....went though Maury and Scott Classic 2019 - no result yet - tomorrow I will find it.........memel is "german" so we shall look in Germany Overprint Merson is from Memel René
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 18, 2019 23:28:02 GMT
Looking at Merson "Republic in the garden of Peace" (?) Spinks|Maury I understand what GC refers to, but what does GC white ( blanc ) #119c ? I'm not finding any examples The is also 119 f center very displaced - does this refer to the secondary color in the background? and then 119 g Center absent (no color?) which I see some mention that this is normal on GC (?) it looks like this applies to to some of the other denominations (60 c , 2 Fr, 3 Fr, 5 Fr center absent, 45c absent on GC and also just absent) but not 10 Fr and 20 Fr. And based on values, these are not common, and may be "out of reach...($) Anyon ewith more knowledge on these please chime in- I would like to know more! |
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Post by brightonpete on Oct 19, 2019 1:48:48 GMT
That Memel overprint could be Mi:65. (1.25 mark on 60¢.) Value used €1.80 in Junior 2011 catalog. I couldn't make out the new overprinted value in that photo.
Just my quick scan through a Junior catalog.
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renden
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Post by renden on Oct 19, 2019 2:38:39 GMT
That Memel overprint could be Mi:65. (1.25 mark on 60¢.) Value used €1.80 in Junior 2011 catalog. I couldn't make out the new overprinted value in that photo. Just my quick scan through a Junior catalog. Mi = ? Pete (Michel ?) René |
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Oct 19, 2019 7:55:38 GMT
stainlessb - The GC - Grande Consortium paper is normally most recognizable to us in its yellowish/brownish version. However it is not the 'colored paper' that necessarily makes it a GC paper. The GC paper was a cheap type of paper used to save money in trying times, so the paper was produced at low cost, with lots of fibres and impurities in the pulp. These can be seen with magnification on both the front and the back. However this cheap paper did not only come in yellowish/brownish - it also came in a greyish version and a whiter version. So even a 'normal' appearing white-paper Merson (or Semeuse) might actually be on GC paper. And the opposite also applies - a paper being yellowish is not necesarrily GC paper! It may just as well be a normal white paper that has simply been ill treated and turned yellowish/brownish. So, one need to study the paper and look for significant impurities - almost like a semi-granite paper. Good luck!
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