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Post by stainlessb on Jan 27, 2020 17:25:31 GMT
I believe the highlighted in Red is reference to numbering by Dallay
so anneau lune is that little small circle?!? amazing.... I will have to go look... more of a variant (than a shade)
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Post by stainlessb on Jan 31, 2020 2:56:09 GMT
no moon ring, but maybe the North Star or super-nova? (more like foreign object on press) but it does look like very small rings above/below back arm (?) Two moons... maybe Mars..... Also a breask in the bottom rung of the E in REPUBLIQUE actually a whole host of 'variants on this stamp- outer bordere frames..... i can see this is yet another thing to drive me towards insanity in my old age
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Post by blaamand on Jan 31, 2020 9:00:20 GMT
Very nice! 'Supernova' is a great description, or maybe the star above Bethlehem? That's definitely a keeper, I didn't find anything nearly as cool myself. The Semeuse are both interesting and frustrating for all the imperfections during printing. Interesting because there so much to be found. Frustrating because of how to organise it and where to draw the line for being imperfections, it seems almost every stamp has some sort of imperfection! Same goes for the listed variety 'amputated sower', lots of stamps seems to have the feet more or less amputated, so what is the criteria for being worthy as that variety? Hmmm. Good luck with your study of the Semeuse (sower), truly something to keep your mind busy
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Post by renden on Jan 31, 2020 13:43:26 GMT
Good luck with your study of the Semeuse (sower), truly something to keep your mind busy ......or put you into "depression"
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Post by blaamand on Jan 31, 2020 15:46:50 GMT
Haha - that's valid I guess! But come on, we're never depressed while stamping, are we? Frustrated - yes !
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 1, 2020 3:14:01 GMT
Tonight I have been going through the 10 C Sower with ground under feet (Semeuse lignée... which my translation comes out as "Row sower....") Out of 43 stamps to look at, 5 were too canceled to make much sense at all, of the rest: 7 of 38 were Type I 1 of 38 may be Type II and 30 of 38 were Type III Type I has 3 lines inside the "c" for centimes ( the slightest bits of "daylight" compared to the 2 lined of II and II) AND a shadow under the "R" in REPUBLIQUE Type II is 2 lines inside the "c" for centimes and no shawdow under the "R" in REPUBLIQUE this a is a bit vague and the following may or may not be correct, but it is less of a n "ink blob" of any of the other stamps I examined Type III has only 2 lines inside th "c" and the shadow under the "R" I'm currently working from Maury, Ceres & Dallay 2009 since this is uncharted waters for me, anyone with knowledge please jump in (life vests are optional) Thanks
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 10, 2020 1:34:13 GMT
France Sower (with ground under feet) Yvert # 130 Maury, Ceres & Dallay indicate Type I & V have a height of 22mm and Type VI is 22.5/23 mm... anybody know what Types II, III, & IV are
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Post by blaamand on Feb 10, 2020 11:49:18 GMT
stainlessb - if memory serves me well type VI was issued for coil stamps (?). if so, the slightly different printing process made the size of the stamp also slightly larger, all the others are the same size I believe.
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Post by hrdoktorx on Feb 23, 2020 15:09:22 GMT
Also received this week, this Sage type I stamp (N under B), (YT #68, MiNr. 63I), 25c ultramarine. As luck would have it, the cancellation is from Corbières, which is the name of the village just across the river from where I live (although, to be fair, there are several towns named Corbières in France, and the département number does not appear, so the ID is not airtight, but nice nonetheless).
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Post by smauggie on May 1, 2020 17:49:42 GMT
France Scott 103 - Peace and Commerce on Quadrille PaperI was sorting out more French stamps and I just happened to notice that there is quite a range boldness of the quadrille marking on the paper from bold to ephemeral. I thought I would share it since I thought it was interesting.
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Post by marking on May 2, 2020 1:14:52 GMT
Stan stainlessb BTW I have no clue what "anneau lune" means - We need an expert in Sowers to enlight us !! This is the actual Anneau-Lune found on the 5c & 25c
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Post by stainlessb on May 2, 2020 2:02:31 GMT
that beats my supernova! and looks more like a major asteroid strike! LOL
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Post by renden on May 2, 2020 12:58:57 GMT
.........and you did not know that Stan stainlessb René
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Post by blaamand on May 2, 2020 13:11:02 GMT
that beats my supernova! and looks more like a major asteroid strike! LOL I agree, That's really spectacular!! Thanks for sharing marking
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Post by renden on May 2, 2020 13:15:13 GMT
Never found an "anneau de lune" in my FRANCE sowers but knew what to look for (read it somewhere)
René
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Post by vikingeck on May 9, 2020 11:54:30 GMT
Taking a chance this is the correct thread to be on since there has been discussion of the SEMEUSE issues . I wonder if any of you have seen these guys (or should I call them gals ? ) Called Timbres Monnaies the 5 and 10c stamps were encased in aluminium ( Americans please note it is not ALUMINUM!) and used as small change in 1920 due to a shortage of copper coins. Vast amounts of copper and brass were used up and dumped in the mud of Flanders and the Somme 1914-1918. they were sponsored by business like large department stores and banks ]
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Post by Beryllium Guy on May 9, 2020 13:22:27 GMT
Also received this week, this Sage type I stamp (N under B), (YT #68, MiNr. 63I), 25c ultramarine. As luck would have it, the cancellation is from Corbières, which is the name of the village just across the river from where I live (although, to be fair, there are several towns named Corbières in France, and the département number does not appear, so the ID is not airtight, but nice nonetheless). (Image deleted - see earlier post for reference) Xavier, I am sorry for being late to respond on this. Just saw this post today. First of all, I think that you have a really nice stamp there, the Sage Type I, 25c ultramarine, and the postmark is nice, too. But looking at the postmark and the spacing of the letters, I don't think it will be from CORBIERES. I think that there is sufficient space after CORBIE to suggest that it ends there, or that there is a gap before another word. If it was CORBIERES, I think that some portion of the second R should be evident. I checked, and there is in fact a place called CORBIE in the north of France, in the département of the Somme. To my eye, it appears more likely that your postmark is from there. As the saying goes: "Free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it."
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Post by hrdoktorx on May 10, 2020 8:14:23 GMT
I agree. But it was a nice thought,
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Post by hrdoktorx on May 10, 2020 8:33:08 GMT
Called Timbres Monnaies the 5 and 10c stamps were encased in aluminium (...) and used as small change in 1920 [...] Fun fact, a little of that practice remains in current France. Sometimes business have to send you very small cash refunds, and when the amount is too small to write a check, they use mint postage stamps of low denominations (usually the 1c, 5c, and 10c Mariannes of the day) instead. This has happened to me a few times.
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Post by darkormex on May 10, 2020 11:25:54 GMT
This is a really interesting thread and there is a lot of information here to process. smauggie thank you for showing that range of quadrille paper types. I was looking at this last night trying to determine what was quadrille and what was not. This will help in identifying these stamps.
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Post by thegubman on May 16, 2020 9:31:56 GMT
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Post by spain1850 on May 30, 2020 21:56:57 GMT
This thread will be getting some extended views by me. I love early France. Here is my page of Sower issues, with the various types as listed in Maury. My rather simoliustic approach. \ Here is a page I a FINALLY finished, after having the 2Fr spot empty for quite a while. Baby steps....baby steps.
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Post by stainlessb on May 31, 2020 1:52:51 GMT
In a recent accumulation of album pages received, I found this on a page of Sage Peace and Commerce... I have not seen a French Colonies stamp before that doesn't call out the colony. It's a lovely stamp!
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Post by thegubman on Jun 16, 2020 14:33:41 GMT
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 20, 2020 23:00:09 GMT
Received today. 1927 Yvert #A1 and A2, An upgrade (from used) and now the most per stamp price I have paid. I have a used set which I will put up on e-Bay to try and offset the expenditure. Still 2 more Merson overprints to go! and I also received these two very nice shades of Yvert #131x. (much more affordable....) I may be almost ready to populate the page for these!
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Post by renden on Jun 21, 2020 13:55:41 GMT
Received today. 1927 Yvert #A1 and A2, An upgrade (from used) and now the most per stamp price I have paid. I have a used set which I will put up on e-Bay to try and offset the expenditure. Still 2 more Merson overprints to go! Stan, Congrats in acquiring these beautiful C1 and C2 FRANCE (Y A1 - A2) stamps !! René
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 22, 2020 23:15:26 GMT
Does this look suspicious to anyone else? Shouldn't the cancellation be over the overprint? Low opening bid (that's in itself is not unusual) but just over a day and not one bid... thoughts?
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Post by renden on Jun 22, 2020 23:33:22 GMT
Stan stainlessb - everything (letters and numbers) seem wrong on this forgery - 1929 gives it away......the 1st 9 looks like an 8 etc etc I agree with you René
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Post by anglobob on Jun 22, 2020 23:37:31 GMT
stainlessbI agree,seems too good.The overprint does look like it is over the postmark too. Bob
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 23, 2020 0:11:32 GMT
Caveat emptor is alive and well.... I sent the seller a note suggesting it might well be a forgery...I'm sure I'll get a nasty response back
and so it goes....
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