Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Apr 9, 2017 20:48:05 GMT
I have been inspired today by bobby1948 's new thread thestampforum.boards.net/thread/4673/feel-thief and Anping 's subsequent post in the thread thestampforum.boards.net/thread/4671/hong-kong-first-issue-definitives on his great find of an early Hong Kong stamp at an unbelievably low price due to a misidentification by the dealer. So, I have decided to start a new thread to ask the question: "What is the best stamp bargain you ever got, or find that you ever made?" For myself, I need to think about this a little bit. I am not sure if I have anything to compare to what Bobby and Anping have mentioned, or some of the great deals that firstfrog2013 has gotten, too. Anyway, it would be great to hear about everyone's philatelic acquisition triumphs, whether big or small!
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Anping
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Post by Anping on Apr 9, 2017 22:41:49 GMT
This post has been copied from another, at the request of Beryllium Guy. Prompted by bobby1948's recent bargain find of a US 1869 12c Pictorial, I thought I might mention my own, bought from a bricks and mortar shop years ago. It was marked as SG19 (Scott #24). I paid £19 ($23) for it: Having checked it when I got home, it was in fact the 1892 96 cent SG7 (Scott #7). This was catalogued at £400; that's about $500 at today's exchange rate. So who was the dealer concerned? Non other than Stanley Gibbons in the Strand, London. I was beside myself at getting such a difficult stamp for a song.
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Post by PostmasterGS on Apr 10, 2017 0:44:45 GMT
I recently had a great find on Delcampe that is now my record holder for my best bargain buy. In 1941, Italy published this set of 6 stamps commemorating German-Italian friendship. In 1943, the British Political Warfare Executive created propaganda copies of two of these stamps, the green 25 Cent at lower left, and a green copy of the purple 50 Cent at top right. Prior to 2016, these propaganda stamps were cataloged in Sassone but not in Michel, despite Michel cataloging many propaganda forgeries of WWII. Then, beginning in their 2016 German Specialized catalog, Michel dramatically expanded their propaganda forgeries section to include these and many other similar issues. This caused the purchase price to skyrocket, as specialized Germany collectors are now trying to fill those holes. In recent auctions, these two propaganda stamps have typically sold for €750 - €1,000 each for MNH. The prices had already gone sky high by the time I noticed they had been added to the catalog and tried to find copies. One day, while browsing Delcampe, I saw copies for sale on the cheap. The seller clearly knew they weren't the legitimate stamps, as they were marked as cinderellas and priced far above the normal price (<€5) for the actual Italian stamps. But, he apparently hadn't realized what they were now selling for at the major European auction houses. So, I snagged a MNH copy of one (MiNr 49), and a block of four of the other (MiNr 50) with the top two MH and bottom two MNH, though one is dirty. MiNr 49MiNr 50 Block of 4At a German auction house, these would probably combine for a hammer price of €3,500-€4,000. My total purchase price on Delcampe -- €120.
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bobby1948
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Post by bobby1948 on Apr 10, 2017 11:34:08 GMT
I do not think folk realize how much knowledge, experience, and the temerity to act plays into these "lucky" finds. My Dad had a framed quote on the wall of his office: "The harder I work, the luckier I get." I have certainly made some "lucky" finds that had nothing to do with knowledge a forehand, but without the knowledge gained from years of experience, I would never have recognized my "lucky" find among the scads of common stamps in a bulk purchase.
At the same time, I believe in Karma; that good things happen to good people. From observations of the members on this forum, I believe that one thing we all have in common is an aggressively ethical attitude and demeanor toward our interactions with others. That we congratulate one another on our good fortune instead of whining "why couldn't that happen to me," or "I should be so lucky," says a lot about our members and stamp collectors in general.
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Apr 10, 2017 14:52:54 GMT
Many thanks to Anping, PostmasterGS, and bobby1948 for posting in this thread. I just thought that since there has been so much talk on the Forum about how most philatelists have a continuous propensity to acquire new material, that this might be a fun subject. I agree with Bobby, that putting in time and effort, and using acquired experience is what often leads to such success. As in the great story by PostmasterGS, sometimes simply the "sands of time" with changes in the markets for certain stamps and their catalogue listings can make a big difference. For me, the most amazing deal I ever got has certainly been the TSF Donation Auction Lot offered by firstfrog2013. But that was a deliberate act of generosity on Frog's part rather than anything special done by me. I will, of course, accept the good luck that brought the lot to me. In the same vein as PostmasterGS's story, but again with nothing special done by me, I did purchase a MNH set of Hong Kong, Scott #147-150, the King George V 1935 Jubilee Issue for a grand total of 95 cents sometime in the mid-1970s (I still have the original approval glassine to confirm that price). Current Scott CV for the set is $200. So, sometimes good things do, in fact, come to those who wait. Karma or not, I'll take it!
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Post by tridentcrazy on Apr 10, 2017 16:43:57 GMT
As I sit here and think about this subject I find myself thinking on my first major purchase. It was a large lot of trident overprints that I bought from a dealer for $1500 (in 1992) It contained some 250 stamps. Now this may not sound like a good deal but the devil is in the details. It contained most of major trident types. While taking a closer look at my treasure I noticed for each major trident group there were a few signed thus giving me a base with which to compare the legitimate issue from the fake and forgeries. Without those signed issues I would have wasted a lot of money on overpriced forgeries. To this day those issues are still saving me money. That to me is the best deal I have gotten.
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Apr 10, 2017 22:30:24 GMT
Not really sure which of my surprises was the best.I've had the most fun out of a large lot I bought billed as BOB stockbook.The purchase price was right around$65 I picked what I wanted and had many give aways from the rest.Sharing is one thing I've come to love a lot.That little collection that the now notorious war tax block came from is definitely the bargain to beat bargains.Purchase price was .99 shipping $2. I sold a couple from it last auction here and was already ahead by $80 without counting that $5000 block.The watermarked large queens have been quite nice to me as well. Good karma has been with me for the last couple years.Having you guys to share it all with is the most priceless bargain.
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Post by jamesw on Apr 11, 2017 3:17:02 GMT
I guess, pound fer pound my best bargain was this 1862 CSA SC#4 stone 2 which catalogues in my 2012 Scotts Specialized at $130 (no gum). I purchased a pile of CSA forgeries for 11¢ a piece, and this was one of them. Turned out to be legit.
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Poodle_Mum
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Post by Poodle_Mum on Apr 16, 2017 4:24:23 GMT
I don't know if this counts, but when everyone was helping me to raise the money to pay for the part of my chair that the disability assistance did not cover, everyone pitched in. They sold packets and stamps at ridiculously high prices and then they decided to send me the stamps as well - including a Penny Black.
Soon after I won a Canadian Prince Albert (I don't have a catalogue near me but I believe it is #10 or #12). If memory serves me correctly, that came from Mr. Frog!
I cried when it arrived.
Best purchase? eBay - $26 for an almost complete set of S/S of the Queen Mum's 85th birthday of the Flora /Fauna. These included the circulating S/S as well as the imperf proofs of these S/S. Only missing one or two.
The other bargain I got on eBay was a used set of the first four stamps of Luxembourg. I think I paid about $40 and discovered upon arrival that one is mint hinged - definitely worth my $40.
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coastalcollector
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Post by coastalcollector on Apr 16, 2017 18:15:27 GMT
I purchased a group of Montana covers and postcards over a year ago and paid about $1 each for them and set them aside until I decided to research and sell some of them. Well I found three with postmarks from Piegan Montana Territory (now a discontinued post office, DPO) and had no idea of the value so I finally found one very similar on a Kelleher Auction from 3 years ago. It turns out the same postmark and cancel (different date) sold for $300! Guess what I'm doing with the cover shown? That's right I'm listing it on Ebay. Here is a scan of this treasure
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Post by carabop on Apr 20, 2017 22:36:51 GMT
Having only been collecting for about 3 years now I still have many many holes. I really have no great finds but I sure get excited when I can get a packet of 500 stamps for $5 and find 20 or more stamps that fill some of these holes. I have no problem paying .25 a stamp. One day I won't be able to get these packets as they are already getting hard to find and I will have most of these common stamp holes filled so will not be able to find the 20 stamps to make it worth the price.
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Nov 13, 2019 17:27:35 GMT
Great thread Beryllium Guy - it's time for giving it a bump I recently won a humongous duplicate-stock of Canadian stamps at a local auction. The time allowed for viewing the lots before the auction started was very limited, so I only looked at the crammed 64 page stockbook for about 30 seconds. It was literally filled from a few “First cents issues” and some Large queens, lots of Small queens - and from the 1897 Mapple Leaf issue and onwards the album was very well filled, in particular for the recent years from 1980’s onward until 2010. It was primarily all the recent stamps with neat CDS postmarks that attracted me the most at first, so after a very superficial and brief glance I made my mind up to bid equal to about 500 USD for the album. As it turned out no one else had taken an interest in this lot, probably because the description in the auction catalogue was very imprecise and vague - so I won the album for no more than 60 USD. Well, I was thrilled initially – but that was just the start. After having brought the album home I obviously had a more detailed inspection. Each pocket in the book was annoted for 4 different catalog numbers, and most locations were duplicated with up to 5 copies. It must have been more than 2000 different stamps and souvenir sheets etc, mostly duplicated. A humongous load of stamps! Beyond all that I found a 2c Large Queen with a clear Bothwell watermark (Sc #24a), which was enough in itself to make me a very happy stamper. Stuck behind some other Quebec issues (1908) was a very fresh, well centred and MNH of the 20c Quebec issue (Sc #103) which was unnoticed during initial viewing. I would easily pay 60 USD for any of those two stamps alone. But it got even better….at the back of the book a "stamp-bomb" was lurking unnoticed between some nice old blocks of 4. An old booklet was positioned with the white reverse side out, so it was not possible to see what it was, hence it was very easily overlooked. It turned out to be nothing less than the Edward 2c booklet – almost intact! The original booklet will have 2 panes x 6 stamps. This booklet had one complete pane of 6 (Scott #90b) and one more pane with one single stamp missing. Unitrade doesn’t state the catalog value for the complete booklet, but the price for one single MNH full pane (#90b) alone is significant. With almost 2 intact panes, still left in the original booklet and never hinged….the retail value is probably about 10 times more than I payed for the entire album. As a conclusion I consider I actually payed for the Large Queen with the Bothwell watermark – and all the rest is a huge bonus! Now – did anyone else have any great purchases or finds recently?
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renden
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Post by renden on Nov 13, 2019 18:57:42 GMT
Great thread Beryllium Guy - it's time for giving it a bump Now – did anyone else have any great purchases or finds recently? Nope - but congrats Jon blaamand for your succesful "bid" and thanks for sharing your story after 3 weeks of heavy stamping ! René
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Nov 13, 2019 19:04:13 GMT
Thanks Rene. Yes, 3 weeks of working with Canada - and yet not even started on the Admirals yet... Things does take time
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 13, 2019 19:34:29 GMT
Aren't they all bargains?!? I've not had anything as stellar sounding as blaamand , but I was pleasantly surprised with a 'old collection' of Belgium that was not well presented (few photos) loose pages and disheveled that I threw an opening bid on (and won) and then discovered a couple of epaulets and many medallions stuck in the middle of it!
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Nov 13, 2019 19:43:40 GMT
Congrats stainlessb - I can imagine those did no harm
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Nov 13, 2019 23:18:10 GMT
In 2011 I was the only bidder on full mint sheets of 18 labels for the 1939 London Stamp exhibition. Previously, these were only known in sheets of 12. I was the only bidder at the £50 starting price for the set of 4 sheets. To this day, as far as I am aware, they are the only recorded sheets found and are now listed.
You will find them in the Cinderella section under British Philatelic Exhibitions.
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philatelia
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What I collect: Ireland, Japan, Scandy, USA, Venezuela, Vatican, Bermuda, Austria
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Post by philatelia on Nov 13, 2019 23:47:42 GMT
Well I found that Captain Jack Ireland withdrawn stamp (900 euros last I looked) in a $12 bag of kiloware.
But to me, the best deal I ever got was purchasing the Gray Ireland collection. What I learned from his notes - priceless!
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Nov 14, 2019 0:09:42 GMT
philatelia - What a nice find in a kiloware, congrats I didn't even know about the shortly witdrawn stamp until I read your post, upon which I obviously had to ask Google. Fascinating story!
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gmot
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Post by gmot on Nov 14, 2019 3:10:42 GMT
I have a recent bargain I'm pleased with, although definitely not on the same scale. Won an auction of French Oceania - 9 stamps from the typical colonial first series, with the somewhat scarce 50c bistre value. For some reason, no one else on eBay seemed interested, and was able to snap it up cheaply. Stamps arrived today, and in very nice shape.
Now I need to create the album page, as I haven't really been collecting Oceania up until now... Perhaps I'll post then in the right sub-forum later.
But the best all-time bargain - that would have to be inheriting the 100,000+ family stamp collection for free. Although sometimes I curse my grandfathers, father and brother for getting me deep in this hobby!
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blaamand
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Post by blaamand on Nov 14, 2019 7:46:46 GMT
Hahaha - I hope you send them some nice thoughts every now and then as well gmot
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Nov 14, 2019 12:26:46 GMT
philatelia - What a nice find in a kiloware, congrats I didn't even know about the shortly witdrawn stamp until I read your post, upon which I obviously had to ask Google. Fascinating story! Thanks! The stamp made the front cover of Linn’s!
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renden
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Post by renden on Nov 14, 2019 14:53:18 GMT
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Post by vikingeck on Nov 14, 2019 16:03:47 GMT
At a general house sale Auction with one stamp album among all the books and furniture ( I didn’t win the album) the porter held up a plastic bag which got no offers at £5 and I was the only bidder at the opening £2 bid.
I had seen the cover of a booklet of Christmas stamps face value £2.40 in the front of the bag , Glory hallelujah when I found I had £56 face value unused stamps for postage .
The auctioneer should have bought it in for his own office use , but I was a winner that day .
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kasvik
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What I collect: Cancels mostly, especially Sweden Gävle and Lidingö, Switzerland Geneva, Germany Pforzheim
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Post by kasvik on Nov 14, 2019 16:35:31 GMT
philatelia - What a nice find in a kiloware, congrats I didn't even know about the shortly witdrawn stamp until I read your post, upon which I obviously had to ask Google. Fascinating story! Thanks! The stamp made the front cover of Linn’s!
Sorting through haystacks works! Very impressive. I'm going to wager the payoff in labor hours is not the point, but it has to be a lot more satisfying than winning a lotto scratch-off. This is permanent, not just a free lunch at Panera.
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philatelia
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Post by philatelia on Nov 14, 2019 16:56:14 GMT
The best part to me is that I will actually be able to have a complete collection of postally used Ireland. I only lack one Seahorse and some modern issues to make that happen! So close!
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angore
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Post by angore on Nov 22, 2019 11:21:29 GMT
The best bargains I have received are through the generosity of some of the members here. I got hooked on Machins and Canadian stamps because of this.
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Wonderland; 1912 Jubilee International Stamp Exhibition, London ('Ideal' Stamp, ephemera); French Cinderellas with an emphasis on Poster Stamps; Israel and Palestine Cinderellas ; Jewish National Fund Stamps, Labels and Tags; London 2010, A Festival of Stamps (anything); South Africa 1937 Coronation issue of KGVI, singles or bi-lingual pairs.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Nov 23, 2019 13:48:26 GMT
I just now won a small lot of Delandre Labels, 23 in total, for £1.40 !!!! One of the silliest auction wins ever.
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stanley64
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Post by stanley64 on Jan 4, 2021 11:33:57 GMT
In addition to some duplicates received from René ( renden ) at the end of last year,
Canada Locomotive Issues 1986 : Scott n.º 1119, 1120 & 1121
I was able to complete the entire series of Canada's Locomotive stamps in M/S Plate Blocks for at or about face value:
1983 : Scott n.º 999, 1000, 1001 & 1002 colnect.com/en/stamps/list/country/38-Canada/theme/3232-Locomotives/year/1983 1984 : Scott n.º 1036, 1037, 1038 & 1039 (i, ii, iii, iv) colnect.com/en/stamps/list/country/38-Canada/theme/3232-Locomotives/year/1984 1985 : Scott n.º 1071, 1072, 1073 & 1074 colnect.com/en/stamps/list/country/38-Canada/theme/3232-Locomotives/year/1985 1986 : Scott n.º 1118, 1119, 1120 & 1121colnect.com/en/stamps/list/country/38-Canada/theme/3232-Locomotives/year/1986
Happy collecting!
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polarbear
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Post by polarbear on Jan 4, 2021 12:40:29 GMT
My best deals/value has come from friends in real life and on this board gifting me stamps. Nothing like some of you have mentioned. But finding I’ve been gifted a $90 stamp gives me a bit of a thrill. Sometimes it is a bit much and I try to trade back. Sometimes that works and sometimes not. In the latter case I just give them a big smile, say “thank-you”, and carry on stamping!
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