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Post by angore on Oct 27, 2017 22:14:39 GMT
Today, I purchased from some 3 hole punched protective sleeves. This type is smaller than the standard sleeve you see sold everywhere. I was looking for a way to mix pages in sleeves and pages not in sleeves without the sleeves being so intrusive to the appearance. Since all my pages are 3 hole punched this looked like a good option. This would also just hold US mini-sheets that are a tad too big on a printed page. The downside is you have to remove the sheet from the binder before removing the sheet from the sleeve. I purchased the Office Depot brand.
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Post by tomiseksj on Oct 27, 2017 23:46:14 GMT
...I purchased the Office Depot brand. I hope that you took advantage of the APS member discount.
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Post by dgdecker on Oct 28, 2017 3:14:49 GMT
I think this is a solution I need for a few odd shaped items. Will see if it will work for me.
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angore
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Post by angore on Oct 29, 2017 10:58:52 GMT
I was not aware of the APS discount. What is the typical percent off? I am sure it is not anywhere near the claimed max.
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Post by tomiseksj on Oct 30, 2017 21:20:25 GMT
I haven't shopped at Office Depot since learning of the discount program so I can't comment on the typical discount.
Perhaps one of our members has used this service and can comment...
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angore
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Post by angore on Nov 1, 2017 15:34:58 GMT
So far, I still like them.
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Post by jimwentzell on Dec 8, 2018 14:29:00 GMT
oops
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Post by jimwentzell on Dec 8, 2018 14:31:15 GMT
I have been using "acid free" page protectors/poly sleeves for years. For those in the USA, Sam's Club carries the most economical I've found boxes of 250 sheets for under $10.00 so about four US cents each. They are the thicker variety, and I sometimes put Vario pages in them. Other times I put stiff white acid-free paper in the protector/sleeve and insert mini-sheets The stiff paper, also available at Sam's Club, runs about US$8.00 per box of 275 sheets, so about three cents each. For organizing my COVER accumulation (to bring to shows and sell), I use Scotch brand transparent tape to seal the top after inserting a sheet of paper into a protector/sleeve. This is BEFORE I put anything into it. Then off go the sides (with a Fiskar cutter shown below) where the three-ring holes are. Then l cut the 8.5 x 11-inch page in half....and presto, I have TWO inexpensive pockets for covers: Since the SCOTCH-brand tape might possibly someday affect or come in contact with the cover, I use an inexpensive, thinner poly sleeve specifically designed for covers. You can see the postcard below is inside such a sleeve. It makes my covers offered for sale much easier to sort, store, and browse through, at a cost of about six cents per cover:
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Post by angore on Dec 8, 2018 20:34:53 GMT
My local Sam's did not have the sleeves. I had checked yesterday when we went.
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Post by renden on Dec 8, 2018 20:52:01 GMT
To all The way I figure it, sleeves (or page protectors) are not for SCOTT pages but for custom pages......or I am wrong. It would be impossible to add these protectors to an already fat Scott Album (Vol 1-2-3 are the worst) @ 1 - you have to remove the metal hangers each time to access a page. My 6 volume Scott Albums were bought early 70s - no discoloration of paper - it would be nice to replace the 1st-2nd pages of busy Countries to make room for the varieties but my printer could not do the "blank" Scot pages (size) and I would have to settle with A4 pages.....not a good fit with the other pages, Any positive comment is welcome(d) !! René blaamand barbu angore jimwentzell tomiseksj and other members
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Post by tomiseksj on Dec 8, 2018 22:44:38 GMT
...The way I figure it, sleeves (or page protectors) are not for SCOTT pages but for custom pages......or I am wrong. ... I agree with you. The pages in my Scott International albums measure approximately 9-3/8" wide by 11-3/8" high. My Scott National pages measure 10" wide by 11-1/2" high. I believe the page protectors being referenced are intended to accommodate an 8-1/2" X 11" page.
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Post by angore on Dec 8, 2018 22:50:31 GMT
If you wanted to put Scott album pages in a sleeve product you could use mint sheet sleeves. The sheets are 288mm x 250mm.
I have seen other pocket pages that are large but they are not three hole punch. There is a dealer that sells sheets at the shows that uses those so have a few.
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Post by renden on Dec 8, 2018 23:47:00 GMT
Thanks Steve....just what I thought - great René
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 9, 2018 10:27:16 GMT
...The way I figure it, sleeves (or page protectors) are not for SCOTT pages but for custom pages......or I am wrong. ... I agree with you. The pages in my Scott International albums measure approximately 9-3/8" wide by 11-3/8" high. My Scott National pages measure 10" wide by 11-1/2" high. I believe the page protectors being referenced are intended to accommodate an 8-1/2" X 11" page. I also agree with you, Steve and René ( tomiseksj and renden ) on the size issue. Al's ( angore ) comment is interesting about the page sleeves for mint sheets, though, which is something I had never thought about. The only other comment I can add is that I once knew a pre-1940 WW collector who used a Scott International part 1, and she actually removed all of the pages from the original binder and trimmed them with a paper-cutter so they they would fit into the standard 8-1/2" x 11" sleeves! She then put the pages into 3-ring binders and labelled accordingly. It seemed like a lot of work to me, and more than I was willing to do, but I will say that I saw some of those binders with the trimmed pages in their protective sleeves, and they looked quite nice and were very easy to browse through.
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Post by angore on Dec 9, 2018 11:21:50 GMT
You mean like this? It may be hard to see but this was a Scott page I purchased and added it to a sleeve to store in the album until I got in the mood to mount the stamps or maybe even trade. I am no fan of Disney. This was as purchased and likely done by seller to ship in priority mail envelope. I was not by buying the lot for the Scott pages. I have received Scott pages better trimmed and if cut close to border it fits in the sleeve as you can see. If you really like 8.5x11 and but a little more space this could be option. I realize I had started two threads (months apart) on the same subject.
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Dec 9, 2018 12:16:50 GMT
You mean like this? It may be hard to see but this was a Scott page I purchased and added it to a sleeve to store in the album until I got in the mood to mount the stamps or maybe even trade. I am no fan of Disney. This was as purchased and likely done by seller to ship in priority mail envelope. I was not by buying the lot for the Scott pages. I have received Scott pages better trimmed and if cut close to border it fits in the sleeve as you can see. If you really like 8.5x11 and but a little more space this could be option. Yes, Al, I suppose that in principle, this is what I mean, but as I said, my friend used a paper-cutter, and did a nice job on the trimming, keeping the border intact on all four sides. The overall effect in her binders was quite nice, and I always really like it when one can turn the pages when looking through a stamp album or binder without having to worry about stamps coming loose or getting caught on one another. These last couple of points are among the things that I really do not like about the albums I am using now, and being away from them these past months has given me some time to potentially re-think my approach. I know it may disappoint some here at TSF, like Jim ( jkjblue), who has always liked my old brown-cover Scott Internationals, but I am considering doing something else entirely, but not not yet decided just what. I will probably create another thread at some point to mull over my dilemma and seek advice.
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Post by angore on Dec 9, 2018 12:17:28 GMT
Here is a Scott page in a mint sheet album page -- just fits by height.
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Post by renden on Dec 9, 2018 14:07:15 GMT
I agree with you. The pages in my Scott International albums measure approximately 9-3/8" wide by 11-3/8" high. My Scott National pages measure 10" wide by 11-1/2" high. I believe the page protectors being referenced are intended to accommodate an 8-1/2" X 11" page. I also agree with you, Steve and René ( tomiseksj and renden ) on the size issue. Al's ( angore ) comment is interesting about the page sleeves for mint sheets, though, which is something I had never thought about. The only other comment I can add is that I once knew a pre-1940 WW collector who used a Scott International part 1, and she actually removed all of the pages from the original binder and trimmed them with a paper-cutter so they they would fit into the standard 8-1/2" x 11" sleeves! She then put the pages into 3-ring binders and labelled accordingly. It seemed like a lot of work to me, and more than I was willing to do, but I will say that I saw some of those binders with the trimmed pages in their protective sleeves, and they looked quite nice and were very easy to browse through. To all, very informative. Thanks -I will never cut old Scott #1 and #2 albums to adapt protectors. Sheet one by one seems a pain. I remember when my late dad used to have these 2 massive paper cutters in his printing shop....that could have done the trick, but still, adding protective sheets to Albums make them so bulky that you could not close the album !! I see the sheets for 3 ring binder custom albums with plenty of space. Even adding a mint sheet protector will create a bulky Scott. One solution I would see (not sure about doing it) is creating mini-Scott Countries in separate binders........a "project" ! René
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 9, 2018 14:27:18 GMT
My input on the subject now that I claim at least four other countries collections other than Canada.My "other" country collections are all on Stiener pages which are printed on common 65 cardstock.They fit nicely in to the protectors and store in any standard three ring binder.If Mom was still about I would have printed the entire Stiener disk for her worldwide collection.Stiener seems to have followed Scott pages very closely and layouts are quite presentable.
The work involved moving everything from an older album is something I did tackle with doing away with my old Minkus so I understand the misgivings of starting a more massive project.I however believe the end result would be a much more manageable collection where you would be handling only the country you were presently concerned with. As mentioned many times the bulk of such a collection means storage considerations.If any would like an idea of what such a collection looks like consider what Mitch Ward has done.
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Post by renden on Dec 9, 2018 15:17:04 GMT
firstfrog2013 - Frog -Thanks for your input . The Steiner disk should get here in 7-10 days from the US, maybe a little later since we are in the X-mas period. If, as you say, the Steiner pages follow Scott, that means that a lot of varieties (in some Country's old stamps) will not be there (same problem with Scott - I do have.... ex: Hungary). If Scott does not offer spaces for these, I would deduct that Steiner does not. I had the same problem with early Canada (ex: Large and Small Queens) and its varieties....that is why I do not use Scott cat but our own Unitrade Canada cat to inventory the varieties etc. and made up my own Album up to the 1940s using my own software. René
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Dec 9, 2018 16:07:02 GMT
Yep renden exactly why I ditched my Minkus pages.For the general WW collector Stiener pages are still a cheaper route than buying a specialized Scott album for each country.As is the case with most pages found today a specialist must be creative.I have seen some older albums published in Europe almost a century ago that were quite impressive with their completeness progress isn't always better.
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Post by angore on Dec 9, 2018 18:05:07 GMT
I firstfrog,
Actually Steiner has spaces for more stamps than Scott has in their albums.
For British Commonwealth, I see a lot of spaces for minor varieties (different dies, perf variations) and some based up SG such as names of colors. Steiner also provides spaces for many souvenir sheets that Scott assigned as a minor variety. This is often for countries that issued singles and then a souvenir sheet. Unfortunately this may mean one issue (singles and S/S) take up a whole page.
For example, for Aden for the 1953-56 QEII pictorials it has spaces for all minor varieties for that set. A page provided is for all major Scott numbers and then the minor issues are on subsequent pages so you can decide how to collect.
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