Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Nov 4, 2017 18:41:31 GMT
I recently acquired some classic stamps from Ireland, and I am finding that the Scott Catalogue is not being as helpful as it could be to make correct identification possible. My question: how to tell the difference between #65-76 (1922-1923) and #106-117 (1940-1942)? Scott shows Perforated 15x14 and Watermark 44 (SE in Monogram) for both sets, so no help there. Scott indicates Size: 18mm x 22mm for #106-117, but no size reference for the earlier set, #65-76. I have taken some measurements, as I have several copies of some of the denominations, but to my reckoning, all of the stamps seem to have the same size image at 18mm x 22mm, but it seems hard to believe that each and every copy is from the later set. Does anyone know how to distinguish between the two sets? I apologize for the blurry image at left, but the portion of the catalogue I needed to scan was right at the spine of the book, and this was the best I could do. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Nov 4, 2017 19:57:57 GMT
Go to the Introduction section at the front of the catalogue and, specifically, the "Understanding the Listings" section. The major production elements (watermark, perforation and printing method) are things that continue in force in listings until a set comes along that is specifically noted to be different. So, in your case, the watermark on the 1940-42 set is the same as it was for the immediate proceeding listing (Scott #105) - that's Wmk. 262, the multiple "e". Ryan
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Nov 4, 2017 20:17:00 GMT
Go to the Introduction section at the front of the catalogue and, specifically, the "Understanding the Listings" section. The major production elements (watermark, perforation and printing method) are things that continue in force in listings until a set comes along that is specifically noted to be different. So, in your case, the watermark on the 1940-42 set is the same as it was for the immediate proceeding listing (Scott #105) - that's Wmk. 262, the multiple "e". Thanks, Ryan! The jet-lag must still be clouding my ability to observe today. I completely missed the Wmk. 262 note on the preceding set--completely my mistake, and a rookie mistake at that. I wonder why they bother to point out the size at 18mm x 22mm for the second set, though, as every stamp I have seems to be that size, even those that I can now see have Wmk. 44. Anyway, thanks for your help as always, Ryan. I appreciate it!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 20:20:45 GMT
the later issue 3d & 5d are 17X21mm instead of 18.5x22.5 (SG) 18X22(Mi) + some scarce varieties
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Nov 4, 2017 20:36:48 GMT
the later issue 3d & 5d are 17X21mm instead of 18.5x22.5 + some scarce varieties Thank you very much, @falshung! I will pull out the 3d & 5d issues and measure them. If the differences are by 1.5mm in both directions, I should certainly be able to pick those out. If I can find some of each size, I will scan and post them. Thanks again!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2017 21:07:10 GMT
Hare are the Michel pages, in German. I'm OK with the terminology but Google can translate if needed I have a Specialized Ireland but it is on loan right now right click -View image will bring up the actual size
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