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Post by cjd on Aug 18, 2013 1:58:14 GMT
Being a stamp collector and king and emperor of a vast domain has its advantages, one of which is inspiring some classic stamps. Please post your KGV stamps and related items. I'm going to try to include mostly new material that I haven't posted elsewhere, but I'm not going to be militant about that, and you shouldn't, either. In fact, apologies to anyone who ran across this one already...a bilingual South West Africa gutter pair.
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Post by rod222 on Aug 18, 2013 2:15:28 GMT
New Zealand : Designs in progress.. Additional Plate inserted in "Gibbons Stamp Monthly" July 1928
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Post by rod222 on Aug 18, 2013 2:34:26 GMT
KING AND PHILATELIST
A GREAT LIFE HAS CLOSED
THE EMPIRE MOURNS THE PASSING OF A BELOVED MONARCH,
one who had endeared himself to his subjects of every walk of life. He was a great king, yet a simple English gentleman, who lived the life of his people, identifying himself with their daily tasks, their ambitions, their hardships and, above all, their rights as citizens of the greatest Empire the world has ever seen.
No one who has read the story of his full and useful life can fail to be impressed with his insight into the duties and responsibilities of his royal office, of his genuine sympathy and understanding, and his real personification of the national ideals of the British people. But a few short months ago philatelists, in common with other sections of the community, celebrated the 25th anniversary of his accession to the throne, an occasion which was productive of philatelic commemoration never before equalled in the Empire.
To-day, philatelists mourn with their fellow-citizens; they pay tribute to the memory of a great King, who was also a great philatelist. The late King's keen interest in stamp collecting did a vast deal for the hobby; how much, will never be known-. Under his gracious patronage it was raised to heights never before attained, dignified and, in truth, established as a royal pastime. Only a few weeks ago, in October 1935, His late Majesty, in accordance with custom, provided the exhibit at the opening of the new session of the Royal Philatelic Society, London, of which he was Honorary Patron. The wonderful range of stamps then shown, many annotated in the late King's own handwriting, was a visible indication of his wide knowledge and' continued interest in philately.
He first became attracted to stamp collecting in his midshipman days, when he made a world cruise on the H.M.S. "Bacchante," and it is recorded that many of his finest Australian stamps were obtained in Sydney during this period (1879-82). A subsequent cruise (1890-91) on the "Thrush," of which he was commander, afforded him further opportunities of acquiring many valuable stamps, particularly West Indies issues, and on his return to England he became a member of the Philatelic Society (later the Royal Philatelic-Society, London). He was elected president of the society in 1896, a position he retained until 1910, and during these years contributed many displays and learned papers, which indicated much careful and original philatelic research.
It will be remembered that the late King was Patron of the Sixth Australasian Philatelic Exhibition (VICVI), and his royal patronage also extended to the Sydney Philatelic Club, and to the Swedish Philatelic Union. His signature is the first on the Roll of Distinguished Philatelists, and he has always been identified with organised philatelic efforts to assist national causes, particularly during the dark years of the Great War. The royal collection is the most complete of its kind in existence. Confined only to the issues of the British Empire and Egypt, it is of immense proportions, and necessitates the constant care of its eminent Curator, Sir Edward Denny Bacon, K.C.V.O., who has held the position since 1913.
It contains numerous rarities, such as the Id. and 2d. "Post Office" Mauritius, the only used copy of the 2d. "Tyrian Plum" of Great Britain, the recently discovered "10 Centimes" instead of"10 Centimos" error of the Morocco Agencies Jubilee series; the rare types of the Fiji "V.R." overprints in great variety, scarce South Australian Departmentals, a setting of 25 stamps of the 1 value, N.W. Pacific Islands (5th setting, 1919- 23), and numerous other valuable and, in some instances, unique items. The acquisition of the Purves' collection of Commonwealth in 1930, the purchase of numerous items from the Ferrary and Hind collections, and numerous additions from other sources in recent years further built up the royal collection, and at no time, except during periods of illness, did he fail to keep in touch with all developments and new discoveries in philately.
The late King's real interest in the hobby was £further shown by the valued assistance he has so frequently rendered to other philatelists, many of whom mourn for him, not as their monarch but as a personal friend. Philately has, in truth, lost its greatest friend and Patron, but the strong stimulus he gave to the hobby will live on in last-ing tribute to a great King, who was also, in every meaning of the term, a great philatelist.
The Editor and Staff join with all philatelists of the Empire and with all subjects of our late beloved King in mourning the passing of a great monarch and extend our deepest sympathy to Her Majesty the Queen and members of the Royal Family in their bereavement.
The design for the Australian Jubilee Stamps was adopted at the desire of the late King, This equestrian study was his and the Queen's favorite portrait.
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Post by rod222 on Aug 18, 2013 2:38:52 GMT
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Post by rod222 on Aug 18, 2013 2:49:42 GMT
April 2003 KGV tete-beche pair sells for $225,840
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Post by cjd on Aug 18, 2013 3:33:43 GMT
Great stuff, rod222!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 7:02:08 GMT
King George V did a very special thing for Australian stamp collectors and that was he influenced the law makers to allow a stamp collection to not be classified as an asset. A stamp collector through and through. Thank you KGV! The owner of the red stamp collecting books in the Royal collection. His collection and the rest of the Royal collection is one of the very few things the Queen owns in her own right. The Australian King George V side face issues of 1914 to 1938. The stamps I have known since I was 4 years old. kg5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 7:10:50 GMT
This is the opening to another thread but it fits here very nicely.
A History of King George V Side Face Stamps 1914 to 1938
Australia began life as a penal colony of Great Britain & as such had no real identity of her own for the first 100 years or so of her modern history. All that changed with Federation in 1901.
Federation meant Australia became a Nation in her own right & along with the legislative work of how the new nation would be governed were smaller questions, such as the issuing of the new nation's very first postage stamp.
This took rather longer than one would think & the new nation didn't issue its first stamp until 1913. There was massive disagreement over the design for the stamp. There was a strong anti~royalist lobby within the Labor Party, which included the post Master General. The Royalists in the Liberal Party were staunch monarchists.
In true Australian fashion the Labor Party, which was in government, held a competition to choose a design for Australia's very first national stamp. It was a very popular competition & drew over 1 000 designs but the 100 prize was eventually awarded to a man by the very un~British name of Hermann Altmann. His designs included a head of King George V, flanked by a kangaroo & the shield emblems of each of Australia's states.
The Labor Party didn't think much of this design & the government commissioned the water colourist, Blamire Young, to come up with something more *typically Australian*. Young submitted 10 designs using an Australian map outline with a kangaroo & these were eventually issued in various colours for different denominations from January 1913 onwards at the instigation of the Labor Party. However the stamp wasn't particularly popular with protests that it was *child~like* & many people in the wider population were staunch royalists & felt their monarch had been slighted. Nor was it popular with Australia's Head of State, King George V, who received samples of the first stamps for approval, & demanded to know why he was not on Australia's first stamp.
The story of KGV stamps is intrinsically linked to the political power plays of the recently formed Australian government: Labor Party versus Liberal Party. The Labor Party, actively seeking to assert its Independence from English rule, acted directly against the Australian Head of State, King George V, pushing their anti~monarchy agenda by releasing the first kangaroo issue stamps without officially recording the date of issue. The earliest post mark can be traced to January 1913.
Six months later, when there was a change of government & the Liberal Party came to power, one of the first things they did was order new stamps with the monarch, King George V on them. The Liberals were so keen to establish themselves as a pro~monarchy government they allowed the Australian Treasury to print engraved KGV stamps because the stamp printer of the day did not have the facilities to do engraved printings. At the same time they requested plates from England to begin the topographical KGV issues.
The KGV engraved issue, like the map & kangaroo issues, has no recorded 1st day of issue, yet by July 14th, 1914, when the topographical KGV was released, the 1st day of issue was duly recorded.
King George V was an avid stamp collector himself & helped build the Royal Philatelic Collection into the finest collection in the world. At one point he was Honorary vice~president of the Royal Philatelic Society of London. His collection is privately owned by the Queen, not the nation, & has never been counted or valued. It contains many unique items. King George's collection is housed in the red albums & was originally expanded by King George while he was in the navy & able to collect stamps from all over the world. Eventually he restricted his collection to the stamps of Great Britain & her dominions, including Australia
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Post by rod222 on Aug 18, 2013 8:51:53 GMT
Here, I steal some of cjd's thunder... I think this is HIS catalogue..and I have the image 1927 The King's Gift.
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Post by rod222 on Aug 18, 2013 9:14:27 GMT
My Favourite Postmark on a KGV sideface stamp. I paid 4 x CV for this. I just had to have it "HOME RULE" NSW Attachments:
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Post by rod222 on Aug 19, 2013 6:17:04 GMT
Picture Postcard (PPC) Not mine. The young King in Sailor suit.
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Post by Ryan on Aug 19, 2013 8:25:21 GMT
The young King in Sailor suit. That photo reminds me of this one showing the future Kaiser Wilhelm II, KGV's first cousin. Now, does anybody have a photo of Tsar Nicholas II of Russia as a child in a sailor's uniform? The Tsar was yet another first cousin of KGV. Ryan
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Post by rod222 on Aug 19, 2013 9:07:30 GMT
The two together, when they had grown up. (Kaiser Wilhem2)
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Post by Ryan on Aug 19, 2013 9:22:15 GMT
Well, I suppose I might as well post this photo of KGV and Tsar Nicholas! They look like brothers, never mind cousins. Ryan
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Post by rod222 on Aug 19, 2013 9:49:23 GMT
Trucial State : Umm Al Quiwain Canada : Cinderella : Seagram's Whiskey.
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Post by rod222 on Aug 19, 2013 10:00:36 GMT
The "Lord Roberts Memorial Fund" Stamp Collection. A series of the most beautiful Cinderellas. The Album: The King George V issue which forms part of above.
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Post by 1840to1940 on Aug 19, 2013 16:34:48 GMT
This thread got me to thinking that I don't remember seeing a photo of George V as a stamp collector, a la the famous one of the American president FDR. In doing a Google search, I see a Grenada stamp with artwork that might have been based on a photograph, but that is all. It looks like most of the photos of the King are formal portraits. Anyone have an image to share?
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Post by Ryan on Aug 19, 2013 17:59:39 GMT
I snooped a bit but I wasn't able to find any photos of the King with his stamps. Gibraltar is another country that has issued a stamp with artwork showing the King with his stamps - here's a snip taken from the Gibraltar philatelic agency's website. There is, however, at least one shot of QEII looking over a stamp album. Ryan
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Post by rod222 on Aug 19, 2013 19:34:39 GMT
Australia QE2 Coronation set : Cinderella : KG5 King George 6 with his stamps.
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Post by rod222 on Aug 19, 2013 19:38:39 GMT
King George 5 : Revenue Unemployment Insurance 10d
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Post by rod222 on Aug 25, 2013 4:01:27 GMT
Unfulfilled. Being King is not all it's cracked up to be. George fell in love and proposed. (choice not suitable) Guided by her mother, Marie refused George when he proposed to her. Princess Marie of Edinburgh ("Missy") later Queen Marie of Romania Stamps : "Timbru de Ajutor" (Auxilliary stamps) Tuberculosis charity.
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Post by Zuzu on Aug 25, 2013 6:03:02 GMT
Those are lovely seals. (Would they be called seals?)
Lovely lady, too... that's kind of a revealing outfit for that time, no?
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Post by rod222 on Aug 25, 2013 6:11:51 GMT
I think so, Zuzu, I know them as "Timbru Ajutor" to pigeon hole them, but I think seals are correct.
Princess Elizabeth was a very strong character, if you read her bio, she certainly won the eye of George. Most consorts of the day were involved in charities (Tuberculosis was very important one) but Marie became more than that, by all accounts, "The face of Romania" at one stage.
There is a story about the Tiara she is wearing somewhere, I think she often insisted on wearing it, very becoming for mine.
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Post by scottstarling on Aug 25, 2013 11:33:00 GMT
Princess Marie of Edinburgh (later Queen Marie of Romania) was King George V's first cousin. Not that that was the reason the marriage didn't go ahead.
I wonder how such a consanguineous marriage would have affected the hereditary haemophilia the male descendants of Queen Victoria suffer from? Might have made it difficult for any male heirs to the throne to survive to adulthood?
I'm no expert on how in-breeding of haemophilia carriers affects their offspring.
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Post by Admin on Aug 25, 2013 11:58:33 GMT
This is a image of his library. His farther had it as his bowling alley. The son didn't have a use for a bowling alley so had it turned into a library. I wonder if this also doubled as his Stamp room.
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Post by rod222 on Aug 25, 2013 23:17:46 GMT
Searching for "stamps" in my local online car boot sale, this popped up. Cannot recall what she wanted. $20 maybe. Great Britain Essay :
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Post by cjd on Nov 16, 2014 0:14:57 GMT
I'd like to bring this thread back around. Gambia's 3-shilling bright violet aniline ink: Grenada's 1-shilling Jubilee perforated "Specimen":
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Post by rod222 on Nov 16, 2014 2:47:16 GMT
I'd like to bring this thread back around. Gambia's 3-shilling bright violet aniline ink: Grenada's 1-shilling Jubilee perforated "Specimen": King George V was the last British Monarch to be murdered. In January 1936 George V was dying from emphysema and bronchitis. As part of a rest cure, his Doctors suggested a break in the fresh sea air of Bognor. To which the King famously replied "Bugger Bognor". He slipped into a coma and was fading fast. It was clear that he was slipping away and attention started to be turned to the timing of his death. In times past, the death of a King would be announced at a time convenient to the authorities, but in the 20th Century trying to keep such news secret even for a few hours wasn't possible. There was great concern that news would break in the disreputable evening papers rather than in the more respected "Times". And so, the King's Physician Lord Dawson administered a fatal injection of morphine and cocaine. The attendant nurse refused to inject the king forcing Lord Dawson to do it himself and technically at least, become the murderer of George V. George V's last words were not in fact "Bugger Bognor", but "God damn you".
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Post by cjd on Nov 16, 2014 4:10:49 GMT
Here is a little Kiwi eye candy: Supposedly, this design was meant to be evocative of the Penny Black, with stars representing the Southern Cross in lieu of Maltese Cross ornaments.
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Post by rod222 on Nov 16, 2014 6:25:18 GMT
Here is a little Kiwi eye candy: Supposedly, this design was meant to be evocative of the Penny Black, with stars representing the Southern Cross in lieu of Maltese Cross ornaments. The 1/- vermilion (and others) were, for sale for such a long time, nobody thought they would have any value, and did not buy any copies for investment, hence their current high value of the mint. Early recess stamps : To enable more accurate placing of the perforations, the top four rows were perforated on one machine, and the rest of the sheet, on another, hence you will find differing perf measurements on joined vertical pairs, as explained in Scott comments. (Never seen any myself) "All the stamps of New Zealand" Laurie Franks ISBN 0589010085
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