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Post by sherro on May 15, 2019 12:26:01 GMT
There's no questioning the catalogue number on this one. It's Number 1, regardless of which catalogue you use
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on Mar 15, 2020 0:20:03 GMT
more items among my sorting and getting into binders/Varios Circa 1913 I'm hoping someone can translate what the printing on the back indicates (same on both)...and how were these supposed to adhere to letters (I'm guessing people glued them on)- very thick paper
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susiecc
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Post by susiecc on Mar 15, 2020 12:08:53 GMT
I think it says that the stamp has the same value as Russian Serbian money or something kind of like that.
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 15, 2020 12:23:13 GMT
Circa 1913 I'm hoping someone can translate what the printing on the back indicates (same on both)...and how were these supposed to adhere to letters (I'm guessing people glued them on)- very thick paper Hi, Stan, and thanks for your post. Actually, the answer to your question can be found in the catalogue. These stamps were issued for monetary use, not postal use, hence the cardboard, lack of gum, and the inscription. Please see excerpt below from the 2008 Scott Classic Specialized Catalogue:
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Post by vikingeck on Mar 15, 2020 12:53:23 GMT
Stan all countries were short of copper during WW1 . It was needed for munitions , bullet and shell casings used up vast quantities. Some countries changed their small coins to aluminium or Zinc to save copper, sometimes little coins were so scarce that sweets might be given instead of a penny change.
As a result Russia issued these stamps on cardboard for use as small change, replacing the regular copper Kopek coins for day to day commerce. The print on the back says they are equivalent to the regular coinage . ie they are low value paper money rather than postage , though of course they could be stuck on a letter with glue and actually used for postage if the person could be bothered
I have often come across these singly but have never handled multiples. I am going to suggest that multiples , strip of 3 and block of 4 must be worth a premium as they are unusual.
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kosmo
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Post by kosmo on Apr 16, 2020 17:27:48 GMT
Germany tried to take advantage of Russia's financial problems. In 1916, the Imperial printing house printed fake samples of Russian banknotes-stamps with denominations of 15 and 20 kopecks. These were high-quality brands. They were printed on good paper, with elaborate images of the emperors. On the back of the counterfeit money were mocking inscriptions: "It is the same as the robbery of the deception of the rulers" and "It is the same as the bankruptcy of a silver coin." The agitators wanted to distribute the stamps on the territory of Russia, where people were suffering from a lack of change money. But in 1917 there was a revolution, and the new Russian government issued other money. Stamps from the German printing house remained unclaimed. Only a few of these counterfeit banknotes were accidentally sent to Russia along with the Russian military, who were returning home from captivity.
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kosmo
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Post by kosmo on Apr 16, 2020 17:39:37 GMT
There were 4 issues of these stamps in total.This is what they look like.
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kosmo
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Post by kosmo on Apr 18, 2020 8:33:20 GMT
20 kopecks.The original and the falsification.
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Post by kosmo on Apr 19, 2020 11:06:46 GMT
The perfect example of falsification
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Post by sebastian on Sept 25, 2020 15:13:56 GMT
Center displaced. Often seen? Is this a bug?
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