reena
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Post by reena on Jul 28, 2018 13:11:57 GMT
Hi all,
Steve, thanks for the reminder to start coming over here!
Question of the day ---
So you have a full sheet of WAG's and you want to separate them and sell them. All around the sheet the stamps have at least one straight edge. Obliviously, the ones in the middle are perf'ed all the way around.
Can someone explain to me why a full perf'ed stamp is worth more than one with a straight edge?
For some reason I just can not get this in my little pea brain why one would think that the little bit rarer straight edge is worth more.
Thanks for your comments,
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Post by feebletodix on Jul 28, 2018 13:32:10 GMT
Hello Reena.
It really depends upon the stamp, because they may represent a different issue or they may have been issued in greater number than those in sheets. Some people just have a love for perfs.
Regards
Gavin
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2018 13:37:56 GMT
It all comes down to visual appeal and a perceived lack of symmetry. Most North American collectors want perfs all around.
The main N.A. catalogue tells collectors they are worth less.
Obviously they are more scarce since they account for 40% or less in a full sheet but they are generally priced at 50% or less of the perfed ones.
They are sought after by collectors who assemble mini-panes showing the corner and edge positions.
This booklet assigns a premium to natural straight edge stamps, particularly corners with guide lines showing
On the negative side, a lot of straight edge valuable US stamps get re-perfed (fakes) to improve their value I imagine some valuable booklet stamps that may all have straight edges have been unknowingly re-perfed
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reena
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Post by reena on Jul 28, 2018 13:52:36 GMT
Thank you Gavin and nl1947. I know some people do their own re-perfing really badly and that will devalue a stamp.
This is why I really like this hobby, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We collect what we want to collect. I just never gave it a second thought that a straight is valued less than a full perf.
So, why would the catalogues not make a special entry about either stamp? Just a random thought/question.
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Jul 28, 2018 14:44:28 GMT
...I just never gave it a second thought that a straight is valued less than a full perf. So, why would the catalogues not make a special entry about either stamp? Just a random thought/question. Hi reena! Glad you found your way back to us and hope we'll be seeing a lot more of you. In regard to your question about catalogs, Scott does make mention of the issue in its introductory information pertaining to value, grade and condition: |
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reena
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Post by reena on Jul 28, 2018 16:33:12 GMT
Thanks Steve. One would think with all the reading I do at the front of those books I would have remembered that information was there. Bet I wont forget this one!
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salentin
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Post by salentin on Jul 28, 2018 17:32:10 GMT
Hi all,
Steve, thanks for the reminder to start coming over here!
Question of the day ---
So you have a full sheet of WAG's and you want to separate them and sell them. All around the sheet the stamps have at least one straight edge. Obliviously, the ones in the middle are perf'ed all the way around.
Can someone explain to me why a full perf'ed stamp is worth more than one with a straight edge?
For some reason I just can not get this in my little pea brain why one would think that the little bit rarer straight edge is worth more.
Thanks for your comments,
Reena (lost but hopefully not forgotten) Hallo reena, your question is a very good one. There is not much common sence in it,that straight edge stamps are worth less,than fully perforated ones. It is more or less just a question of mode,why this is so in the USA.In Germany f.i. it is the other way around. Part-perforated german stamps from booklets are usually valued higher,than fully perforated ones. Michel-USA-Specialized lists all different part-perforated booklet stamps.The rarer ones, like two sided imperf. from booklet-page corners,are valued higher,than "normal" stamps. However it is different with stamps from sheets with straight edge-selvages.They are mentioned,but not listed. I personally collect all varieties,if they come along by chance.Especially I am fond of corner-stamps.
Another field where there is a big difference of mode is centering of perforated stamps. In the US many collectors are obsessed with it,while in Germany it is almost a non-issue,as long
as it is reasonable good.
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Beryllium Guy
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Jul 28, 2018 17:35:18 GMT
Steve, thanks for the reminder to start coming over here!
Can someone explain to me why a full perf'ed stamp is worth more than one with a straight edge?
For some reason I just can not get this in my little pea brain why one would think that the little bit rarer straight edge is worth more.
Thanks for your comments,
Reena (lost but hopefully not forgotten) Hi, Reena: Great to see you posting again--welcome back! I joined TSF in Nov-2016, but you were already much less active on the site by then. I did read some of your earlier posts, though, so I just wanted to say that it's really good to see you back again these days. We have had a lot of new members recently who have jumped right in and gotten active, so there has been lots to keep up with, generally more than I am able to do these days, so I have been forced to do some picking and choosing, but enjoying my time very, very much. You are definitely not forgotten, even by those of us who barely knew you! Greetings from France, -Chris (aka Beryllium Guy) |
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reena
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Post by reena on Jul 30, 2018 15:40:20 GMT
Thank you salentin for the input about German collectors. It is most interesting.
Chris you are a sweetie! Thank you for your so kind words.
I usually absorb all the knowledge from others and learn so much, but every now and then something comes up and it just doesn't get through my brain!
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Ryan
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Post by Ryan on Jul 30, 2018 16:29:24 GMT
Sweden is another country that has collectors looking for straight-edged stamps. Almost all of their stamps come from coils or booklets, there are very few sheet stamps sold, and collectors over there look for various combinations of straight and perfed edges. Pairs of booklet stamps with straight edges on opposite sides are especially popular. This article on Jay Smith's website gives an overview of this sort of collecting.  Ryan |
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reena
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Post by reena on Jul 30, 2018 20:14:54 GMT
Those are very cool stamps. Great article, too.
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renden
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Post by renden on Jul 30, 2018 20:18:49 GMT
Those are very cool stamps. Great article, too. renna agree with you and you might be surprised that I have never paid attention to this subject re: Canadian Stamps and have some that really passed by......... René |
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reena
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Post by reena on Jul 30, 2018 22:15:35 GMT
I have the Unitrade Specialized catalogue of Canadian Stamps, so when I list, I list according to that catalogue with the minor numbers. I often wonder if I have confused other collectors since Scott's doesn't use that system. Now I get to play with Sweden listings. Nobody every questioned me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 23:07:23 GMT
I have the Unitrade Specialized catalogue of Canadian Stamps, so when I list, I list according to that catalogue with the minor numbers. I often wonder if I have confused other collectors since Scott's doesn't use that system. Most of the collecting world would be confused if you only used Scott #'s Any serious Canada collector would defer to Unitrade. During my selling days I used the Scott# for all listings and whatever other catalog was prevalent to the country in question, Belgium/COB, Brazil/RHM, Germany/Michel, Spain/Edifil ..... and so on
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renden
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Post by renden on Jul 31, 2018 13:10:26 GMT
I have the Unitrade Specialized catalogue of Canadian Stamps, so when I list, I list according to that catalogue with the minor numbers. I often wonder if I have confused other collectors since Scott's doesn't use that system. Now I get to play with Sweden listings. Nobody every questioned me. Also use the same Catalogue for Canada stamps. René |
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firstfrog2013
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Post by firstfrog2013 on Jul 31, 2018 14:42:38 GMT
So a few have interest in straight edge stamps ?/ Take a look at the wanted more dead than alive thread under Canada.I'm still working on that mission although I've completed a couple already.The toughest ones are two sides imperf(corner stamps).As to value after the search for these corner stamps they should actually be valued quite a bit more than the rest.They seem impossible to locate.Think about this of the whole sheet of 200 or 400 hundred only one is that particular corner.So it boils down to number issued versus visual appeal.
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Londonbus1
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What I collect: Cinderellas and some Ephemera from Great Britain, France and Israel plus a few beautiful bits from elsewhere !! Topical interests include Flags & Judaica, the latter with an emphasis on the Jewish National Fund.
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Post by Londonbus1 on Jul 31, 2018 17:01:19 GMT
In a previous life I was an avid Machin Collector and while the straight-edge stamps were not listed seperately, most dealers had them listed and stocked aside from the 'normal' perfs all round types. They were quite plentiful though, or so it seemed. Londonbus1......Longing for a Machin...not really !  |
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Jul 31, 2018 17:23:59 GMT
While some may obsess, for me, if it means the difference between having a stamp and wanting a stamp, I'll settle for a straight edge any day. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 19:55:22 GMT
The 5c one appears to be more than an edge stamp. Part of another 5c appears on the left as if it was part of a pair with imperf between?
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tomiseksj
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Post by tomiseksj on Jul 31, 2018 20:36:43 GMT
If I'm not mistaken, the stamp was printed from plates of 200 and the sheet was cut into two panes of 100 each which would make this stamp from the first column of the right pane.
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janetc
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Post by janetc on Dec 13, 2018 21:35:35 GMT
While some may obsess, for me, if it means the difference between having a stamp and wanting a stamp, I'll settle for a straight edge any day. I have to agree with you. If it fills a space in one of my albums it has a home. And those are some nice looking stamps you have there  |
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