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Post by stainlessb on Feb 8, 2019 1:24:54 GMT
I came across this in an album today- the two plates are attached to the cover in the very middle (fold)   and then this  here's the back to show gummed area...for some reason my scanner interpretted as orange... it actually looks like what one would expect the gum to look like. i was going to adjust colors, but fear I'll just mess everything else up in the process  |
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Post by tobben63 on Feb 8, 2019 3:05:11 GMT
That was odd, I have no explanation.
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 8, 2019 4:30:53 GMT
That was odd, I have no explanation. are you speaking of the orange "gum"? if so, yes I agree.... scanner seems to do well on everything else.... alien stamps?> |
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Post by tobben63 on Feb 8, 2019 4:32:26 GMT
That was odd, I have no explanation. are you speaking of the orange "gum"? iof so, yes I agree.... scanner seems to do well on everything else.... alien stamps?> Yes, the orange gum. |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Feb 8, 2019 7:45:34 GMT
I came across this in an album today- the two plates are attached to the cover in the very middle (fold) ....here's the back to show gummed area...for some reason my scanner interpreted as orange... it actually looks like what one would expect the gum to look like. i was going to adjust colors, but fear I'll just mess everything else up in the process First of all, nice booklets! Thanks for sharing. Nelson (@falshung) knows a lot about scanning and how it works. I am tagging him so that perhaps he will comment on this topic. He mentioned in a previous post that it is a good idea to have multiple colors in an image when making adjustments to keep things true, so I wonder if limited colors on the back has something to do with why the scanner made the gum look orange.... Anyway, let's see what Nelson may say. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 11:43:52 GMT
It has to do with the scanner & software trying to pick up and discern the printing showing through on the other side.
The result is over-saturation.
When I scan a book in grayscale and get to a page that may only have a few lines of type but the reverse can be seen partially through the paper, the same thing happens and the scan will come out with very dark striated edges. I then make an adjustment of the resolution on that page.
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 8, 2019 14:31:41 GMT
It has to do with the scanner & software trying to pick up and discern the printing showing through on the other side. The result is over-saturation. When I scan a book in grayscale and get to a page that may only have a few lines of type but the reverse can be seen partially through the paper, the same thing happens and the scan will come out with very dark striated edges. I then make an adjustment of the resolution on that page. this is as close as I can get it- resolution down to 100, media = color, color balance = none. reducing red (or green just made the margins very strange). reducing brightness didn't help much either  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 16:22:44 GMT
this is as close as I can get it- resolution down to 100, media = color, color balance = none. reducing red (or green just made the margins very strange). reducing brightness didn't help much either On your regular settings crop an area just the size of one stamp with no outside sheet before you scan to see what happens |
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 9, 2019 1:39:37 GMT
here's a single square this is close to what the gum looks like...although considering the face of the stamp is green = the bleed through looks somewhat reddish- trying to get the green to show the colors all go south... This does explain to me why many stamps offered for sale have orangish gum...I'll need to inquire if the gum is really that color from now on!  |
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Post by de61 on Sept 9, 2019 15:54:24 GMT
It has to do with the scanner & software trying to pick up and discern the printing showing through on the other side. The result is over-saturation. When I scan a book in grayscale and get to a page that may only have a few lines of type but the reverse can be seen partially through the paper, the same thing happens and the scan will come out with very dark striated edges. I then make an adjustment of the resolution on that page. this is as close as I can get it- resolution down to 100, media = color, color balance = none. reducing red (or green just made the margins very strange). reducing brightness didn't help much either You piqued my interest with this one, Stanley. I scanned my version of this booklet multiple times with all different settings and could not mimic the orange color you got. The reddish tinge to the gum is also interesting.
Yvert & Tellier lists 2 versions of the gum for this booklet. The more common version is a yellowish (sallow) gum. Y & T also lists a white gum. Perhaps this is the white gum version. In any case, I would put a UV light (both longwave and shortwave) to it and see if it glows. You may have something here.
Following is my copy scanned under normal conditions with no adjustments.
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Post by stainlessb on May 7, 2021 0:04:36 GMT
not exactly an anniversary, but since there is one Red Cross booklet here, seems the place to add some more 1959   and 1960   1953 is on it's way. I have up to 1966 which is far later than most other France stamps I will collect, but these just sort of happened (you had to be there....) |
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Post by daveg28 on May 7, 2021 3:50:33 GMT
These are all absolutely beautiful!
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 26, 2021 0:34:19 GMT
Today arrived some more years- I am getting close to having a "full" set and may spin off the later issues (part of a lot buy to get a year I needed)... not sure where to stop- these will be the "most" modern France I have/collect. Mounting is a bit costly- I get one mount fro m the full strip, and they come 10 per pack.... so 5 booklets (stamps and cover ... I do separate, but I know of no other way to show) and what do you know!? 2600 posts!   |
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 26, 2021 11:03:20 GMT
Thanks for posting these stainlessb . I have one from 1957 that I have tossed in between my France album pages. I was not aware they were an annual item. My France collection has become substantial over time but it is not a country I have specialized in or felt the need to create a special album for. I wonder if some sort of postcard display sheets might be an easier mounting option. |
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Post by anglobob on Jun 26, 2021 11:28:50 GMT
stainlessbI also have these booklets from 1953 to 1985,just need the 1952 booklet.Some of these booklets are quite expensive and I am reluctant to open them and mount the stamps.Right now,I have them in Varios pages,4 to a side and only displaying the cover.I had duplicates of some of the later inexpensive booklets and I did separate the stamps from the cover and mounted these. Both the covers and stamps are very attractive.It is a shame that both can,t be displayed without damaging the booklet. Anglobob
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 26, 2021 14:31:03 GMT
the stamps appear to be verl loosely attached, (so far) and it seems easy enogh to place back in if needed. I just ordered one pack of 2 pocket clear 3 ring pages (for phots and postcards.... have to see how that works
I also do not have 1952
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Post by hdm1950 on Jun 26, 2021 16:18:08 GMT
the stamps appear to be verl loosely attached, (so far) and it seems easy enogh to place back in if needed. I just ordered one pack of 2 pocket clear 3 ring pages (for phots and postcards.... have to see how that works I also do not have 1952 I had a bunch of these sleeves come with a box lot of stamp stuff once and recently moved my Canada booklets into a few. Sadly newer booklets are bigger and do not fit as well. The pockets are smaller than postcards so they must have been for a smaller format of photos. They would be ideal for the France semi postal booklets. The sheets are double sided so each sheet would hold 8. I am not sure if they can still be bought. They even fold. I guess for a narrow album.    |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 7, 2021 0:33:25 GMT
1952 Yvert #938, One of a pair, but this was th eonly one sold in a booklet 9also sold as singles) (note: I deleted the previous post of scans of all "sides" so as not to duplicate posts)   Because of the format this booklet is in and the fact that I use page protectors, there is no way to look at the stamp pane with out removing from the protector.... which I'm fine with as this one is somewhat fragile and the less handling the better, so I have an opening/opposing page which also shows both stamps of the pair and images on the paine and inside cover= It is on white paper and lacks the Red Cross emblem, but will be there once I go to work next week and can use the color printer on the ivory vellum  comments , calling out typos always welcome!!! |
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Post by renden on Aug 7, 2021 12:56:31 GMT
Nice Stan stainlessb .........#938.....typo......French Red Cross (not fraenh)  René |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 7, 2021 14:37:30 GMT
Merci René! Tellement content que ce soit cette page et pas celle déjà montée !  |
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Post by stainlessb on Dec 16, 2021 0:37:14 GMT
the latest completed page 1953 Y&T 966 & 967 only 23 more to go... plus the couple I am missing the two scans is the front and back of the same page ... not sure why the color scanned differently... one after the other   |
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Post by gstamps on Mar 14, 2022 10:09:03 GMT
Red Cross booklet Yvert-Tellier No.2011 from 1962.   I know the colours can't be judged by the postings on the site but the 25+10 stamp (YT Nr.1367) is definitely not green as mentioned in the catalogue.  That means it may be the YT 2011a booklet variety. Stamp 20+10 c (YT Nr.1366) has red colour at the bottom of the letter "P".  I don't have any other stamps to compare. If you have these 2 stamps please post them for comparison with mine. Thank you. |
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Post by stainlessb on Mar 14, 2022 15:59:46 GMT
I have this one, although I think I have decided to stop at 1960 (I have 1961-1983... ), but here is mine, which based on identifiers is not the same as yours  no red lower portion of "P"  not sure I'd call the 'green" but it does have a greenish tint to the black  |
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Post by gstamps on Mar 14, 2022 18:30:48 GMT
@ stainlessb-thank you very much.
I used my mobile phone to take the pictures in bright natural light.
That the stamp is grey instead of green is very good.
The other stamp should have been darker than yours.
(dark lilac-brown instead of lilac-brown)
But maybe it's the bright light I took the pictures in.
I'll try to see under the minimicroscope if I see any trace of green in the ink.
And then there's the two-tone "P".
Very, very strange.
I'll buy these two stamps so I can make a direct comparison.
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Post by stainlessb on Apr 7, 2022 23:04:24 GMT
not exactly the booklet, but a cover of the 1954 issues (from left to right Yvert 1007 & 1006) I am tryting to find at least one cover with the red cross stamps (not necessarily a FDC) up to 1960, which I have decided is where I will cut off. Which also means at some point I need to list the booklets from 1961 - 1983 that I have. For now they don't take up much space  |
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