vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on May 24, 2019 16:07:42 GMT
A week or so ago Stan asked "why letters in all 4 corners?" and I suggested the reason was obsession of the Post Office preventing loss of revenue by re use of cleaned stamps or " cut and Shut" jobs using two part stamps which didn't have a full cancel. I did not have an example to hand but today at our fortnightly coffee session someone gave me a Gibbons Stamp Monthly for March 2019 which illustrates this neatly ( sorry it's a lousy scan) ![]()  |
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 8, 2019 22:27:11 GMT
well- I can attest to the worthiness of the ink used on the 1864 penny reds. I accidentally left a stamp in my mini soaking dish (a petri dish) a day or two (?) before I went to New Orleans. I had a before scan (top) which is how I notice the paper remnant on the stamp (top) same scanner settings on both  and after. i think the color actually improved-  hmmm... maybe I should give them all a bath!?! |
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Post by brightonpete on Jun 8, 2019 23:07:11 GMT
Looks like years of smokers admiring their stamp was washed away!
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Post by stainlessb on Jun 8, 2019 23:57:10 GMT
Smoke, pollution, oil on fingers/hands, improper storage... could be most anything
I really am considering giving them all a "spa" treatment. i put one small drop of clear dish soap in thee water, seems to help pull any remaining adhesive off the stamp so it doesn't stick to the blotter during pressing. I have many stamps that are probably a bit dingier due to years of dirt/grime
not that i really enjoy soaking stamps, and I'm sure not all stamps would benefit from a spa treatment, and in fact may wash out
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 29, 2019 0:53:31 GMT
received another small lot of 40 stamps to look through. the majority are sound perfs all sides, and have found a Plate 107 with 4 margings much nbetter than my existing example. (it needs a bath!)
I am trying not to look at lot offerings as I nowe have plenty and it makes more sense to specifically look for the plate numbers I lack to complete the plate study "set"
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Post by stainlessb on Oct 4, 2019 23:13:38 GMT
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Post by stanley64 on Oct 5, 2019 6:34:54 GMT
Almost complete! except the ellusive plate 225... and there are a few which warrant better specimens, but, for now, I can truly move my focus on to other areas! Well done and well presented; congratulations stainlessb ! Look forward to seeing what comes next, as I too am always on the lookout for new ideas covering a specific issue and their collection... |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Oct 5, 2019 7:43:40 GMT
Yes indeed, I would like to echo the comments of stanley64 and offer my congratulations to stainlessb on your most excellent post. You have a very fine collection there, and I am also impressed with how nicely you have presented it on the custom pages, but also with how quickly you seem to have accomplished all of that.... wow! I am sorry to say that in general when it comes to my stamping, I am slow to make progress on things. I get there in the end, but things rarely seem to happen quickly. I will try to take some inspiration from your example and finish up my current project today. In any case, congratulations again to Stan ( stainlessb) on your collection of Penny Reds--just beautifully done!  |
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Post by khj on Nov 10, 2021 20:29:13 GMT
My plate 225 -- banged up in the upper left corner, but the plate number is clear.  |
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Post by stainlessb on Nov 10, 2021 20:54:46 GMT
Nice!
I had an opportuniity about 2 years ago to but a plate 225 from a seller in Australia for $160 US, heavy cancel on one side, but 225 clear on the other and full perfs... i procrastinated , it sold, now I seldom see for <$250
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 21, 2022 18:04:00 GMT
Seemed a good place to post While looking through my pile of SG 43/44, many of which have suffered at the hands of a careless "cutter" -- which make me wonder , was the great number of these stamps a result of postal clerks cutting the stamps from the sheets rather than tear apart the perforations? or collectors with really poor eyesight removing them from the envelopes??-anyway, I digress- I was lloomking for identifiable post office numerals and any stamps in better condition that had missed an earlier plate identification effort, when I came across this stamp ... it appears to be a "Z" over N P 5 (or the 5 could be a "3" or maybe a "B")--- any ideas? The stamp (KK) itself is not in great shape and the plate # is unidentifiable, though I think I can make what appears to be the top of a "7"  |
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vikingeck
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Post by vikingeck on Feb 21, 2022 18:15:47 GMT
Well NPB stands for " News Paper Branch "
As to plate number I confirm your "7". On the right side, obscured by the Z postmark there is, peeping out, a number with a round top. which suggests 2, 3, 8 or 9.. There is no number 1 or 2 in the loop above so it has to be a two digit number not three digits, which leave us with plate 87 or 97
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 21, 2022 18:48:49 GMT
Thanks Alex!
I'm going with 87- I did see the top portion on the right and initially thought is was placed too high in the scrollwork. Now that i look at it, it looks lioke maybe the top portion of the lower part of the 8 is peeking out also. (I suppose it's not of great historical importance one way or the other!?)
NBP, would this be in use prior to the 1 penny wrappers?
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Post by stainlessb on Feb 21, 2022 20:07:24 GMT
here is what appears to be another NPB obliteration, this time on SG 172 - 174 , 16 dots (I'm leaning towards 174 mauve- it is not as dark under 10K light. the "lilac" tones is a color shade my scanner seems to have some troubles with), with a nasty crease! This one has an "E" above the P...any thoughst as to what this may signify  |
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Post by vikingeck on Feb 22, 2022 10:19:40 GMT
The NPB cancel was used on newspapers being mailed out . As far as I can see the main London NPB is in the EC district ( the East sector of Central London).
For three hundred years until the 1980s most National newspapers were published from HQ in Fleet Street which is London EC 4.
The handstamp postmarks often have a letter code like your E or the .Z. On your earlier item. It does not have a lot of significance other than possibly indicating which counter the stamp was cancelled at. It was not considered necessary to have a date stamp on mailed newspapers and the cancels are invariably simple and crudely made.
There is a 43 page published study of these by W Stitt-Dibden 1971 but I don’t have access to it.
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 29, 2023 19:30:48 GMT
nothing too exciting, but as I was cleaning and organizing, this was amongst a small lot of early Netherlands. Plate 131, though the 1's are very weak, buat as there are no 13, 31 or 231, this seems a pretty safe conclusion. What made me look twice is the obliteration. The left digit is incomplete, and what is showing looks like a '0", but I am unaware of a 002 and I can see ther esge of th ebottom bar, so I don't think there's enough room for 4 digits (?) 6, 8 or 9?  |
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Post by vikingeck on Aug 30, 2023 10:35:49 GMT
Hi Stan stainlessb , No problem with this being plate 131 . The postmark I think is a “3” .( definitely not 0 or 6) 302 is assigned to Folkingham in Lincolnshire. The. RL combination of letters makes this one for Rob REL1948. He collects stamps with his initials.  |
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 30, 2023 13:54:06 GMT
Thanks Alex!
and Rob, PM me!
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Post by REL1948 on Aug 30, 2023 14:34:09 GMT
Hi Alex (vikingeck),
Thank you for thinking of me, unfortunately I only collect the first series of the 'penny red imperforates' and plating is much different than the perforated series. It does appear to be plate 131 in the photo, but it's a bit difficult to see clearly.
Rob
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Post by stainlessb on Aug 30, 2023 14:42:18 GMT
not single RL imperf do I have.....
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