stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on May 1, 2019 3:07:48 GMT
the "brilliant contrast" is an issue for me- many scans look much better than they are in reality (although it is helpful for plate and type ID's). i can manage the more faded aspect of the stamp in i-Photo ( an additional step to tone this down) , but I can't find a way to do this in VuScan peter the margins in your scan look similar tio what I would expect, except the red "blee" into the white, which seems to go hand-in-hand with the over saturation. If you have two stamps , one faded and one in pretty decent (mint) shape- scan side by side to get a comparison. (and if you figure out how to tone down the intensity of the contrast, let me know!) I will likely order an Epson in the next few days and see if CCD really helps with the recognition... and the eye of the beholder is never to be forgotten- but dang it- the scanner should see it the same way! and all I really wanted to do was just sort a bunch of stamps..... |
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tobben63
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Post by tobben63 on May 1, 2019 3:59:38 GMT
Here is my sample at 4800dpi with my Canon 400LIDE. I have not read the whole tread, but do you all save in sRGB color space?  |
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stainlessb
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Post by stainlessb on May 1, 2019 13:09:13 GMT
i have used mainly sRGB, but did try colormatch RGB as suggested- I think I've tried every setting- Your margins look reasonable, but i wonder if it's really that brilliant of a red. i have a few of the same stamps and all mine (unscanned) are more muted to my eye, but always "brighter" and more vivd when scanned but I'm beginning to think I obsess too much- what did we do before scanners? reference/use stock illustrations from catalogues? I seem to recall buying stamps based only on a description (how trusting I once was  ) |
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Post by brightonpete on May 1, 2019 13:24:56 GMT
Here is my sample at 4800dpi with my Canon 400LIDE. I have not read the whole tread, but do you all save in sRGB color space?
And, stainlessb , there is some bleed on the stamp I scanned. Here is a quick photo I took of it. Now all I need is a set-up so I can take perfectly focused, properly aligned photographs.
Now that is how it should look!
Scanners... cameras... when will it end?
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Post by tobben63 on May 1, 2019 14:20:00 GMT
The browsers only display rgb (i think) so to get a deasen result online you need to save in rgb color space. To use on your own computer you can use other color spaces (Adobe-rgb) with far more colors, but those colors will not be the same in your browser.
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Post by stainlessb on May 2, 2019 0:36:30 GMT
OMG, what have I started here ?!?  I am now behind the curve, but, as i lost an auction today in the final seconds (and my largest max bid yet)...having just saved all that money, i guess I can order a new scanner tomorrow (that makes sense right?) |
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renden
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Post by renden on May 2, 2019 16:18:38 GMT
Sorry guys (friends) I deleted my new Epson V370 post which showed 2 scans at different dpis - I just thought I was "stealing" this thread and that the subject of tweeking our scans does not belong here, at least mine. Some call it Hijacking a thread which I do not want to do. Just talked to a friend (Marios) at EZStamp and he has been on my computer a few times to check memory for high resolution scans etc. Marios has been scanning for many years for his work at Softpro (owner off EZStamp, EZImage etc) - He tells me it is useless to scan at high dpis since the scanner (Hardware) does not scan that high - it is the software which takes over and the time taken for such high resolutions scans is a waste of time ! This is just for information FYI - any other communication re: scanning ...will be in the proper thread
René
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Post by stainlessb on May 2, 2019 18:10:19 GMT
didn't seem hi-jacked to me
I got off topic quite a while ago
one thing just leads to another!
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renden
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Post by renden on May 2, 2019 20:09:41 GMT
Stan stainlessb ....just wanted to correct my boo-boo in another post (now deleted) - I want a "fair" thread and now it is yours so keep posting, friend !!  René tell me about your new scanner - love my Epson V370 as long as it is accompanied by some good software....VueScan  does not impress me BTW |
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Post by stainlessb on May 2, 2019 20:13:40 GMT
renden I will let you know when it arrives. The VS software is wonderful, but I only have the Canon software to compare too, so we shall see when the Epson arrives
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Post by renden on May 2, 2019 23:21:15 GMT
renden I will let you know when it arrives. The VS software is wonderful, but I only have the Canon software to compare too, so we shall see when the Epson arrives stan stainlessbWhat is the meaning of the acronym VS ? How super is it ? Does it edge deskew, auto trim and seperate your stamps's scanned - my software does and it is "wonderful" and easy !! René |
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Post by stainlessb on May 3, 2019 0:27:12 GMT
VS = VueScan
it does have an auto setting for skew, but I do not use it
by auto trim, do you mean crop? if so, i=t has one but I don't use it
separate the stamps? do you scan multiple stamps at one time and it separates like PMSG StampFix... if so, it doesn't... or as far as I know it doesn't
The Epson arrives tomorrow, I received my 6500K daylight bulb yesterday, SG Color Aid and a plethora of 4: x 6" different colored backgrounds
so by the end of the weekend... look out!
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Post by renden on May 3, 2019 0:51:08 GMT
VS = VueScan it does have an auto setting for skew, but I do not use it by auto trim, do you mean crop? if so, i=t has one but I don't use it separate the stamps? do you scan multiple stamps at one time and it separates like PMSG StampFix... if so, it doesn't... or as far as I know it doesn't The Epson arrives tomorrow Sorry Stan stainlessb if I deleted some stuff but we are aware of repetition.....and this would belong to another thread but to answer your post......have to break the rules....... My software will do 10 stamps in one scan......seperate each one auto, edge deskew them.....so they are at 90 angles, and after trim off the excess (auto trim) so at the end I have 10 stamps ready to be saved where I want them ex: this nice German overprint (Austria), good value, Mint NH and never issued to work but in Scott Cat (Austria) was scanned with other stamps, edge skewed and trimmed auto to look good and saved to My Pictures (Windows 7) Not the greatest scan since it was done on a Cannon multi purpose at the time and probably at 300 dpi........  |
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Post by angore on May 3, 2019 10:47:29 GMT
If you are using Epson software, there are some settings to consider:
1. Use professional mode to see all options
2. I got best results with default setting for Color control ("continuous auto exposure")
3. After the scan you can toggle between auto and as scanned to see which is better in preview. The auto will usually give you a more appealing image (more contrast and saturated colors) but manual is usually more accurate.
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Post by vikingeck on May 8, 2019 17:30:56 GMT
Well I don't know why you guys are getting so worked up about with colour repro on a scanner?
Colour is subjective and asking viewer A to ID collector B's shade off any scan is fraught with problems. I have had many discussions and the consensus is " a waste of time trying ". whether it is orange-vermillion, vermillion, orange-red, scarlet- vermillion, as seen in a scan is impossible to tell without the actual stamp in front of you , and do remember these are 150 years old have been soaked , are partly obscured by black postmarks and have been affected by atmospheric sulphur from coal fires and gas lights back in the day.
frstamp, removing the blue tone has completely altered the postmark colour from black to reddish brown so what has it done to the stamp colour?
Going back to the two images Stan posted of the Victoria 1/- green. As this is printed in water sensitive fugitive ink any used stamp off paper will no longer have the true original colour. The second of Stan's greens is closest to the usual colour (frstamps settings) and the first is far to bright with too much yellow tone, not a shade I'd expect having handled many of these in the past.
But then the colours I see here will also be affected by the brightness response on my monitor screen, and could be quite different from what you have at your end!
I have always used a Canon LIDE 210 which is inexpensive and has always been pretty close to the true colours whether scanning with a black or a white background. I'm generally happy with its results.
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Post by renden on May 8, 2019 17:47:46 GMT
Well I don't know why you guys are getting so worked up about with colour repro on a scanner? Colour is subjective and asking viewer A to ID collector B's shade off any scan is fraught with problems. I have had many discussions and the consensus is " a waste of time trying ". whether it is orange-vermillion, vermillion, orange-red, scarlet- vermillion, as seen in a scan is impossible to tell without the actual stamp in front of you , and do remember these are 150 years old have been soaked , are partly obscured by black postmarks and have been affected by atmospheric sulphur from coal fires and gas lights back in the day. I have always used a Canon LIDE 210 which is inexpensive and has always been pretty close to the true colours whether scanning with a black or a white background. I'm generally happy with its results. You are absolutely "right" in your analysis and even though this subject is discussed many times an on every Forum....we forget (human beings forget  ) ! If this thread has only accomplished reviewing the subject, I am a happy Camper ! Thanks for reminding us (the members who participated in this threa) - René |
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Post by crickbob on Mar 29, 2020 5:05:01 GMT
Just talked to a friend (Marios) at EZStamp and he has been on my computer a few times to check memory for high resolution scans etc. Marios has been scanning for many years for his work at Softpro (owner off EZStamp, EZImage etc) - He tells me it is useless to scan at high dpis since the scanner (Hardware) does not scan that high - it is the software which takes over and the time taken for such high resolutions scans is a waste of time ! This is just for information FYI - any other communication re: scanning ...will be in the proper thread René What DPI do you use with EZImage for scanning stamps René? Gonna unpack my new scanner tomorrow (Epson Perfection V19) and bought EZImage Pro to use with it. In fact, I broke the bank and purchased the entire Softpro Suite. Do you own the entire Suite? |
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Post by Beryllium Guy on Mar 29, 2020 7:31:11 GMT
Hi, Bob ( crickbob)! Good to see you jumping into the conversation here. I also got a new Epson V19 Perfection scanner, in my case as a Christmas gift. I don't have any special software for running it, though. I am just using the software supplied by Epson. I will be interested to hear about your experience. Even taking my simple approach, I can see that my current scans are better quality than the ones I did in the past. Anyway, please be sure to mention any lessons learned as you go along and try different things. Thanks! |
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Post by renden on Mar 29, 2020 13:30:36 GMT
Just talked to a friend (Marios) at EZStamp......... What DPI do you use with EZImage for scanning stamps René? Gonna unpack my new scanner tomorrow (Epson Perfection V19) and bought EZImage Pro to use with it. In fact, I broke the bank and purchased the entire Softpro Suite. Do you own the entire Suite? I do not want to hijack this "Vermillion" thread, crickbob so I will send a PM and any future discussion can be done in the proper thread....I will have to do a search to find the right name - Thanks René ....this one might do it: thestampforum.boards.net/thread/3312/stamp-inventory-programs |
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I am now behind the curve, but, as i lost an auction today in the final seconds (and my largest max bid yet)...having just saved all that money, i guess I can order a new scanner tomorrow (that makes sense right?)
does not impress me BTW
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